Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
I'm taking a grad level iOS development course and while a VM on my 6th gen i7 laptop with 16gb isn't so bad I figured I'd take a plunge and buy my first Mac computer.

What I want to know, is how do you get a VM setup with OS X? I'd really like to know that. Feel free to reply here or in a PM!
 
Lol continue to live in denial, the new MacBook pros that come out this year will be way better than the one you have. Deal with it


What denial? A marginal upgrade in a cpu I won't use? As I said book it in2017 not 2016. I have a laptop with a skylake cpu as well and guess what no difference in real life usage. The HP spectre which has an Intel i7-6500U. While obviously is a dual core i7 ultra low powered it's still skylake at the same ghz as the Macbook Pro I have which has a 2.5ghz i5 broadwell cpu but with better graphics. Skylake and even kaby lake will bring marginal upgrades to both cpu and gpu and I couldn't care less about it. As far as the other upgrades go I don't care for USB C and the retarded touch bar. Plus I'm no Apple Fanboy either.
 
I was in the market for a new laptop and decided to get the early '15 13" MBP 256 GB on Amazon. It was 1399 and I had a decent amount of gift cards to apply. I know the new models are coming out eventually, but I mainly do the usual web surfing, email, etc. so the current version will suite me. I prefer physical function keys, and the current keyboard is the best I've used on any machine. I'm a bit concerned reading some of the rumors that the new models will feature "flatter" keyboards.

I tried out the keyboard on the Macbook and hated it. I don't think the Pro will be that flat, but I prefer the current keyboard.
 
If you feel working on the Mac will make you more productive and have a better semester, then go for it. You are buying for a professional/academic reason. Waiting for an LED function strip, marginal CPU update, or USB-C is not worth it, again, if you feel your work will be better using the Mac.

With that said, you do seem to have a capable computer. Maybe let the semester go a little longer, see how it goes for 2 weeks, and then decide.

I think I will wait. I'm also going to probably get the MBP 15. I've been using Mac OS X in my VM on my 13 inch laptop and do find it a bit constraining.

I'm running a VM on my 16gb i7 xps 13. It works. Just hang in there. The VM will be absolutely fine for the start of the semester.

That's my same machine. Dell XPS 13 9350 with the i7-6560, 16gb of RAM and 512 ssd but I'm running Ubuntu on it instead of Windows.

What I want to know, is how do you get a VM setup with OS X? I'd really like to know that. Feel free to reply here or in a PM!

vmware and the internet :p



I'm going to hold off and wait for a couple of reasons so I canceled the order I made the other day. 1. I think I'm going to get the 15 instead of the 13 and it doesn't pay to buy the 15 now with a 2 year old CPU. 2. Even though there is no such thing as really future proof a newer model would probably last me a bit longer. 3. If I did pull the trigger on it now and the new one does come out next month then I will kick my self in the ass so hard. haha I'm just hoping it comes more towards the beginning of Oct as opposed to the end (knowing my luck it will be the very end haha)

Also didn't I read somewhere that they once didn't even have an event for a MBP refresh? It just showed up on the site one day? So is it possible they would just release without an event? I would think they would want to get them in stores for the holiday season. I will admit I've always been against Apple(PC users, Android user/dev) but I'm really looking forward to getting a MBP. I have a feeling it's going to become my main system for development (iOS, Android, Web)

Thanks for all the responses everyone.
 
  • Like
Reactions: duervo
Any thoughts about what this survey means for the release date? I would think it's too late to be making any changes if they had planned on releasing a new MBP in October. I'd like to think they were already full swing into production. Thoughts anyone?
 
I would like to know this also. Are we talking running full OSX on non-Mac?

Yes full OS X but things like iMessage and FaceTime do not work because it authenticates the machine with Apple so it never can activate but other than that everything seems to work well. (it runs better in VMWARE than Virtual Machine IMO) There is a guide out there if you do a google search. It is illegal though as it goes against Apple's TOS of having their SW on non-apple HW (That's why I'm not posting the link publicly or saying who published the guide, I'm new here and not sure if that is frowned upon.)
 
I am in the "I didn't want to wait group" so pulled the trigger on this;
Screen Shot 2016-09-15 at 10.48.38 PM.png

It was $300 reduced with full warranty (eBay) and since I didn't think the new MacBook would be to my liking or offer anything new that I would use, bought and am loving it. Used a 15' rMacBook Pro for several years while working at my newspaper and tried to buy it when I retired in April. Love the ports, especially the HDMI, keyboard and the build (thinner design would not be my favorite change at all) and for my usage this laptop is a dream.
 
Save your money and continue with your windows machine. You won't need/utilise the "horsepower" of a native Mac laptop/desktop just for iOS development.

I'm also running OS X on my windows laptop in VMware and compared to my recently sold 15" rMBP, it's only slower during animations. Writing/Compiling code in Xcode is pretty much similar on both.
 
Save your money and continue with your windows machine. You won't need/utilise the "horsepower" of a native Mac laptop/desktop just for iOS development.

I'm also running OS X on my windows laptop in VMware and compared to my recently sold 15" rMBP, it's only slower during animations. Writing/Compiling code in Xcode is pretty much similar on both.

Yeah but you can't submit apps to the app store without a real mac can you? I thought I had read that while you can dev on a VM that if you actually want to release something you need a real mac
 
Definitely snag one if you can get it for a lower price, or wait for the refresh. Either way, it doesn't matter it'll suit your needs and last you for years to come.
 
Of course you should wait, if you can. For the same price in a month (or a few) you will get, likely, a better machine.

If you need the Mac right now for your college course, then obviously get one now. Only you can know if you need it immediately or can wait. Although it seems like you already have your mind set...

I have a 2015 rMBP 2.7 i5 with 8gb and never run into any issues when developing using VMs; however I don't ever use Xcode. If you got 16gb of ram, then I reckon you will be sitting pretty, for a while.
 
Yes full OS X but things like iMessage and FaceTime do not work because it authenticates the machine with Apple so it never can activate but other than that everything seems to work well. (it runs better in VMWARE than Virtual Machine IMO) There is a guide out there if you do a google search. It is illegal though as it goes against Apple's TOS of having their SW on non-apple HW (That's why I'm not posting the link publicly or saying who published the guide, I'm new here and not sure if that is frowned upon.)

OK. Sounds like a hackintosh. I ran one of those before and lived in fear that the next online update would kill the machine, yet again. I will never build another one. For the few hundred I can buy a 2011 13 MBP and stick in one of the SSDs I have lying around and be done.
 
OK. Sounds like a hackintosh. I ran one of those before and lived in fear that the next online update would kill the machine, yet again. I will never build another one. For the few hundred I can buy a 2011 13 MBP and stick in one of the SSDs I have lying around and be done.

No its not a hackintosh, I'm running it in VMware player within Ubuntu(my main OS). It works pretty well and you can update it fine. There was an update for it after I had it set up. I allocate 8gb of my 16gb for the VM when it's running.
 
No its not a hackintosh, I'm running it in VMware player within Ubuntu(my main OS). It works pretty well and you can update it fine. There was an update for it after I had it set up. I allocate 8gb of my 16gb for the VM when it's running.

Hackintoshes tend to work fine on small update. But bigger updates not so much. And Sierra is just around the corner. Anyway, glad it is working for you.
 
I was curious how my VM performance was so I ran geek bench in my VM and then in my native ID (ububtu) I was actually surprised how close they were in scores also in my native OS I'm using all 16gb of ram but the VM only gets 8 of that when it's running.
4ee9214ad97a5bfd62eecef29f95dde6.jpg
 
I really like MBP for a development machine just because it makes it very easy develop for whatever system you want to without having to jump through hoops.
 
I really like MBP for a development machine just because it makes it very easy develop for whatever system you want to without having to jump through hoops.
Yeah that's why I think once I get my MBP it will become my main development machine. I do mostly web, Android apps and now ios apps so with a mbp I could do all of that without messing with vms. I'm excited about getting one.. I just wish Apple would hurry up already. Lol
 
Lol continue to live in denial, the new MacBook pros that come out this year will be way better than the one you have. Deal with it

Man I don't know. I have some big concerns when it comes to Macbook Pro 2016. Big one being the flatter butterfly keyboard (especially sicne I love the current one) and OLCD Bar
 
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.