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Gambiit08 said:
may i ask, why? Canada is an awesome country, but am just a little curious..also which part of Canada do you want to move to..
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Keep in mind this is still early in the discussion phase. More research needs to be done via trips, studying up on immigration, history, politics, etc... before we'd feel comfortable committing to such an undertaking.

However we've both been to Canada, and enjoyed our time there. Economically and socially it seems like a place that speaks to our values. The people whether when visiting Canada or meeting tourists here in the US, have always been down to earth, warm, and friendly. Growing up in Minnesota and Northern Ohio (respectively) my wife and I are not intimidated by the weather either.

One of my cousins, who is my age, left San Francisco after high school and studied abroad. I mean all over Europe and South America, and has settled into Toronto and loves it there. She speaks highly of the experience and is always dropping hints that people should 'check it out' some time.

Geographically Toronto is probably the best fit for us. Metropolitan area is important to us. Toronto keeps us within driving distance of my in-laws and still a car ride to my family in Minnesota.

Understand we don't want idealize Canada as some kind of mystical land of milk and honey, but it seems very promising to us. :)
 
Centient said:
Keep in mind this is still early in the discussion phase. More research needs to be done via trips, studying up on immigration, history, politics, etc... before we'd feel comfortable committing to such an undertaking.

However we've both been to Canada, and enjoyed our time there. Economically and socially it seems like a place that speaks to our values. The people whether when visiting Canada or meeting tourists here in the US, have always been down to earth, warm, and friendly. Growing up in Minnesota and Northern Ohio (respectively) my wife and I are not intimidated by the weather either.

One of my cousins, who is my age, left San Francisco after high school and studied abroad. I mean all over Europe and South America, and has settled into Toronto and loves it there. She speaks highly of the experience and is always dropping hints that people should 'check it out' some time.

Geographically Toronto is probably the best fit for us. Metropolitan area is important to us. Keeps us within driving distance of my in-laws and still a car ride to my family in Minnesota.

Understand we don't want idealize Canada as some kind of land of milk and honey, but it seems very promising to us. :)
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Canada is amazing, and that isnt a bias, i've travelled across most the world, including nearly every US state...so i would know---but yeah Ontario isn't the greatest province, and Toronto isn't the greatest city in Canada, but it is probably better than the majority of large cities in the US, and if it's close to your family it makes sense...
 
Gambiit08 said:
Canada is amazing, and that isnt a bias, i've travelled across most the world, including nearly every US state...so i would know---but yeah Ontario isn't the greatest province, and Toronto isn't the greatest city in Canada, but it is probably better than the majority of large cities in the US, and if it's close to your family it makes sense...
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Er, what?:confused: Toronto is absolutely one of the greatest cities in Canada. I grew up there, and miss it dearly. We only moved to LA a few years ago.
 
Gambiit08 said:
Canada is amazing, and that isnt a bias, i've travelled across most the world, including nearly every US state...so i would know---but yeah Ontario isn't the greatest province, and Toronto isn't the greatest city in Canada, but it is probably better than the majority of large cities in the US, and if it's close to your family it makes sense...
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What makes you say that about Ontario and Toronto? You're a part of my research now. :D
 
Centient said:
What makes you say that about Ontario and Toronto? You're a part of my research now. :D
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well, Ontario in general isn't known for it's intellectual population...there's quite a lot of pollution, the govt. is pretty fail, and the taxes are horrendous

It isn't bad per-say, but Alberta, and British Columbia are much, much better
 
Gambiit08 said:
well, Ontario in general isn't known for it's intellectual population...there's quite a lot of pollution, the govt. is pretty fail, and the taxes are horrendous

It isn't bad per-say, but Alberta, and British Columbia are much, much better
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Ha!!! Yeah it doesn't sound very bad per se. ;)

Thanks for the input. I'm going to have to ask my cousin her thoughts on the situation there.

Hey I've got cousins in Seattle, so maybe Western Canada isn't off the table entirely. :)
 
Jimmy James said:
I strongly disagree that a faster phone isn't a huge upgrade.

I was planning to hold out for the next iPhone (hoping for CPU & storage upgrade) but just got a rare deal on the iPhone 4 and service plan that will save me $600 over the contract life. The ONLY thing I would want is a faster processor and more storage. The 3GS is already laggy on 4.3 and the 4 will likely become laggy as the OS continues to grow. Any other feature they might add seems comparatively minor.
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I am running 4.3.3 on a jail broken 3Gs with no lag.
I expect the speed upgrade will be comparable to the iPad vs the iPad 2. I do not consider it a huge upgrade. Just for my own usage and opinion.
Also, 32GB works for me.
 
Surely said:
Is there a reason you're ignoring my posts? You know, the guy that actually lived in Toronto?:confused::rolleyes:
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Not ignoring at all. In fact I appreciate your input. Trying to multi-task at work, and my slow day just got turned into a busy day.

What brought you out of Toronto to LA?
 
Wait. Tough it out a little bit longer and wait for the next iPhone.

Let me tell you why: I have both the iPad 2 and iP4. The difference in processor IS noticeable. Everything just flies on my iPad 2. That’s not to say iP4 is slow but… I can clearly see the advantage updated iPad 2 processor. This adavantage will be even more so with iOS 5.

If you were asking this question earlier in 2011 I would have told you to get iP4. But this late in its’ cycle? No. Wait for the next iPhone.

Wait.
 
Surely said:
Seriously dude?:rolleyes:

See what I mean?
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most of Ontario's accusations are relating to Toronto...but yes, Torontonians can be pretty annoying at times...

Toronto isn't necessarily a garbage city, but it is very large, and has a seriously flawed education system...thus people are pretty ignorant there... i may seem pretty arrogant, but i have family in T.O. and after spending quite alot of time out there....i hate the GTA
 
Centient said:
Not ignoring at all. In fact I appreciate your input. Trying to multi-task at work, and my slow day just got turned into a busy day.

What brought you out of Toronto to LA?
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My wife is originally from LA, and wanted to give living here a try again. It's not completely out of the cards to move back, but we love it here so far.

Look, if you want advice on moving to Calgary/Western Canada, listen to people like Gambiit08. However, don't listen to the negativity that they spew about Toronto/Ontario. It's biased and not honest. They pretty much grow up being told how crappy it is to live in TO.

If you want advice on moving to Toronto, listen to people like me who grew up and lived there for a long period of time. I won't bash the west.

Every place in Canada has good and bad. To listen to generalizations like Gambiit08's is just unfair to a great city.
 
Surely said:
Seriously dude?:rolleyes:

See what I mean?
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Vancouver and Calgary are probably my favorite cities in the world. Calgary is probably the best i'd say, probably the strongest economy in the world, one of the fastest growing cities in the world, some of the friendliest people are in Calgary, and there is a very, very LOW crime-rate...Toronto and Vancouver, however have much, much more crime though
 
Gambiit08 said:
most of Ontario's accusations are relating to Toronto...but yes, Torontonians can be pretty annoying at times...

Toronto isn't necessarily a garbage city, but it is very large, and has a seriously flawed education system...thus people are pretty ignorant there... i may seem pretty arrogant, but i have family in T.O. and after spending quite alot of time out there....i hate the GTA
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You seem extremely arrogant. Typical attitude from someone out west. Sad really. Why do you have to bash Toronto to make your part of the country seem better? It just makes you look bad.

And BTW, the education is great in some parts of the city, good in other parts, and bad in a few parts. Just like your city. Just like any big city.


I now regret trying to help you in this thread.
 
Gambiit08 said:
Vancouver and Calgary are probably my favorite cities in the world. Calgary is probably the best i'd say, probably the strongest economy in the world, one of the fastest growing cities in the world, some of the friendliest people are in Calgary, and there is a very, very LOW crime-rate...Toronto and Vancouver, however have much, much more crime though
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Funny, no crime was ever committed against me or anyone I know for the 30-odd years I grew up there. Weird, eh?

Every city has its good and bad parts.
 
Gambiit08 said:
Vancouver and Calgary are probably my favorite cities in the world. Calgary is probably the best i'd say, probably the strongest economy in the world, one of the fastest growing cities in the world, some of the friendliest people are in Calgary, and there is a very, very LOW crime-rate...Toronto and Vancouver, however have much, much more crime though
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The strongest economy in the world? Are you kidding me? Alberta is dying out, the only reason there was a rush to Alberta was for the oil and now things are looking drier.

Toronto is a fabulous place to live, and gotta admit West Coast people hate it for the popularity. Ontario is the leading province and Toronto is one of the strongest cities in Canada.
Canada altogether is an amazing place to live, but it depends on what your liking is.
Toronto is like a mini New York city, so if you're a city person then it'll be the best place. If you like wide open areas and more of farm land, then the West coast/prairies like British Columbia/Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba etc. looks better.

The crime rate in Toronto is high compared to Calgary, well Calgary's population isn't as much as Toronto's. There's more crime at cities with more population. So whatever crime happens in Toronto is seen as very bad compared to Calgary. Compared to any other big city, Toronto is much safer.

I've visited and stayed in Toronto numerous times and I will most probably settle down there. The 3-year contracts are a pain though, but hopefully things will change soon :p atleast they get 2 hardware upgrades!

The education system is amazing, Toronto is home to the #1 University in Canada, University of Toronto which is known as the Harvard of the North.

You sound pretty ignorant stereotyping Torontonians like that. You might have had a bad experience, but it's not the city you think it is.

On topic: I don't know what an 'iPhone 4S' is, but i know what an iPhone 5 is. Funny how you come to a conclusion that 'iPhone 4S' will be a minor upgrade like the iPhone 3GS. When that's not even true.
To answer your question, I would recommend waiting.
 
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Reach9 said:
The strongest economy in the world? Are you kidding me? Alberta is dying out, the only reason there was a rush to Alberta was for the oil and now things are looking drier.

Toronto is a fabulous place to live, and gotta admit West Coast people hate it for the popularity. Ontario is the leading province and Toronto is one of the strongest cities in Canada.
Canada altogether is an amazing place to live, but it depends on what your liking is.
Toronto is like a mini New York city, so if you're a city person then it'll be the best place. If you like wide open areas and more of farm land, then the West coast/prairies like British Columbia/Alberta, Saskatchewan, Manitoba etc. looks better.

The crime rate in Toronto is high compared to Calgary, well Calgary's population isn't as much as Toronto's. There's more crime at cities with more population. So whatever crime happens in Toronto is seen as very bad compared to Calgary. Compared to any other big city, Toronto is much safer.

I've visited and stayed in Toronto numerous times and I will most probably settle down there. The 3-year contracts are a pain though, but hopefully things will change soon :p atleast they get 2 hardware upgrades!

The education system is amazing, Toronto is home to the #1 University in Canada, University of Toronto which is known as the Harvard of the North.

You sound pretty ignorant stereotyping Torontonians like that. You might have had a bad experience, but it's not the city you think it is.

On topic: I don't know what an 'iPhone 4S' is, but i know what an iPhone 5 is. Funny how you come to a conclusion that 'iPhone 4S' will be a minor upgrade like the iPhone 3GS. When that's not even true.
To answer your question, I would recommend waiting.
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definitely "dying out" because the Oil Patch is fading away, and is becoming far less prominent....the Oil & Gas industry will be distinguished for many, many more years, before it "fades away"... and until that time, Alberta will grow even further economically...while Ontario and QC continue to plummet
 
Gambiit08 said:
the processor will not be "faster" it will just have an secondary core...which will allow for more multi-tasking...hardly an absolutely necessary feature in a phone...especially when most apps can't even utilize the A5 chip...storage would be a good idea, but 32 is fine for a phone, and if you want more than 32/64 on a tablet/phone get a laptop.
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Semantics, really.

We're likely to see an iPhone performance increase that is relative to the iPad > iPad 2. Significant.

I don't want more than 64. But I would like 64. Many others will want more.

I already have a laptop. It's what I use to sync my current device. ;)
 
Centient said:
Keep in mind this is still early in the discussion phase. More research needs to be done via trips, studying up on immigration, history, politics, etc... before we'd feel comfortable committing to such an undertaking.

However we've both been to Canada, and enjoyed our time there. Economically and socially it seems like a place that speaks to our values. The people whether when visiting Canada or meeting tourists here in the US, have always been down to earth, warm, and friendly. Growing up in Minnesota and Northern Ohio (respectively) my wife and I are not intimidated by the weather either.

One of my cousins, who is my age, left San Francisco after high school and studied abroad. I mean all over Europe and South America, and has settled into Toronto and loves it there. She speaks highly of the experience and is always dropping hints that people should 'check it out' some time.

Geographically Toronto is probably the best fit for us. Metropolitan area is important to us. Toronto keeps us within driving distance of my in-laws and still a car ride to my family in Minnesota.

Understand we don't want idealize Canada as some kind of mystical land of milk and honey, but it seems very promising to us. :)
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Did I mention we have friendly beavers? :p

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sekLEG8xsOs
 
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