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So when you tap the <3 symbols on a playlist does it not save that playlist in your favorites or something or does that just tell Apple that you like this and to play more? wuthout adding it to my library, I had to search for that playlist again in order to play it
 
So when you tap the <3 symbols on a playlist does it not save that playlist in your favorites or something or does that just tell Apple that you like this and to play more? wuthout adding it to my library, I had to search for that playlist again in order to play it

You have to click on the + button to save the album/song/playlist.
 
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Interestingly enough, those of us on iOS 9 don't have a new build yet but can listen to beats1 as the link now works in the music app... Or at least it does for me now as I'm listening to it now. Ironically, this is actually the feature I cared the least about with the new music app but the only working one I get at the moment as the iTunes Radio experience otherwise is kinda buggy and broken in beta 2.
 
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iTunes 12.2 is coming soon...
 

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Wow, update was 184 MB on iPad Air 2 and OS X 10.10.4 is 1290 MB -- a +600% difference. I wonder if it really has to be like that, or if Apple could try a bit harder for better "differential" / "delta" updates for OS X as well. It just seems ridiculous to have a mostly stabilization oriented update be as large as a whole new OS...
 
Where did you see this?!? That'd be the dumbest decision ever...especially because ALL of the links to Start Listening automatically open up iTunes when you're on your computer.

Totally agree. Launching Apple Music with with links that point to iTunes 12.2 that isn't live yet is just dumb.
 
So I guess maybe I'm just confused...
On the old itunes radio you could search for a station and add that station to your radio stations (Beatles Radio, Taylor Swift radio etc) But now when I try to add a station I can't find a way to save them. Is that feature gone?

Also, in my music, where did the shuffle songs go?
 
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It's especially funny since Apple Music is part of those 180 MB's, but not (as in iTunes 12.2) part of those 1000+ MB's.
 
So my wife and I currently share the same iTunes library and iCloud space, using the same Apple ID. Would we need the family plan to listen simultaneously on separate devices, or is that just for families using multiple Apple IDs?

My *guess* is that you will not need a family plan unless you want to be able to both play music at the same time. Probably Apple Music will only stream to one device at a time if you are not on a Family Plan. If you do want to stream to multiple devices, you may need to pay for the family plan AND switch your wife to her own Apple ID with family sharing enabled.

The above are just guesses. I am also curious about the same thing. My family all have different Apple IDs for iCloud, but we all share the same Apple ID for iTunes. I am considering changing my family over to Family Sharing partly just so we can all have our own music experience.
 
So how does the new Apple music app handle streaming when you have lower quality files on your phone? I have a lot of older stuff I ripped back in the early 00's at 128kbps. Does Apple stream the higher quality version if it detects the version you have is inferior? Otherwise, it seems more advantageous to just not sync music files to my mobile devices, rather just find them on Apple music and "save them for offline use" within the app.

I think this is the only advantage to have a separate streaming library app. I know anything I play in Spotify will be 320kbps.

Also, I'd like to add that the "available for offline use" icon is really wonky. If you save an entire album, it sometimes shows the album cover with a small icon on it, but the individual tracks give no indication, and they even give you the option to "resave" them. What's frustrating about that, is it's the same icon to denote if you have the file already in your iTunes library (owned, not saved from Apple Music service).

Basically, it's impossible to tell for sure if you have the file saved. Another advantage to Spotify, which puts that little green arrow next to each track.
 
You have to click on the + button to save the album/song/playlist.

Thanks. Any way to move albums you add to your music? I added an album and it only shows up in Recently added. Added another one and its in recently added too but not showing as its on playlist like the compilation playlists I added before.

Edit: I found the albums under the artist not my playlists, that works.
 
"Instead of paying $1.29 per song download, for example, subscribers have millions of songs at their fingertips for essentially the cost of an album."

Right... And they lose every single one of those millions of songs when they stop paying $10/month. Whereas you never lose access to an album you buy outright. Great service, as long as you're ok with paying a monthly fee forever.

Thanks but no thanks.
Different strokes...

I couldn't begin to afford all the music I'd want to "own," so for me, what I'd get for the monthly fee seems worthwhile - nearly any piece of music I've ever loved, on demand.

If I gave up on the subscription concept, yes, I'd have nothing to show for it - but the same thing can be said for paying to my cable company for that subscription, or renting/pay-per-view/movie theater, or attending a live concert....
All I'm getting in all those cases is the momentary experience (and whatever I can re-live in my mind afterwards).

Based on my expected lifespan and comparing the cost of subscribing until the end of my days to the cost per-song/per-album of buying... for me, subscribing (whether from Apple or switching to another service) seems the better deal. If I purchased, at the end of one year I would have 12-20 new albums, with a backlog of hundreds on my wish list. By the time I was too deaf to enjoy music at all, I might have a few hundred albums, and would have waited years before I could have most of them at my disposal.

While there were a few free public libraries before the middle of the 19th Century, they were greatly outnumbered by paid subscription/membership "circulating" libraries. For the typical middle class person of the day, owning a substantial private library was out of the question - subscriptions were the affordable alternative. It took philanthropy and (gasp) government funding to turn the lending library into a free, public service (built partly on the notion that reading would supplant drinking as a form of working class entertainment).

Maybe the best of all worlds is a "free public library" for music - one where the composers, artists, and labels get fair compensation for creating new works and the public can listen around the clock at no charge, advertising-free. Here in the U.S., in the current political environment, I can't begin to imagine how that would happen. "Free enterprise" is expected to provide all services, so rather than pay a higher tax bill, I'll pay Apple, or Pandora, or Spotify, or....
 
seriously no iTunes update BEFORE an OS update??? same crap they pulled with Photo months after iCloud Photo was released.
 
"Instead of paying $1.29 per song download, for example, subscribers have millions of songs at their fingertips for essentially the cost of an album."

Right... And they lose every single one of those millions of songs when they stop paying $10/month. Whereas you never lose access to an album you buy outright. Great service, as long as you're ok with paying a monthly fee forever.

Thanks but no thanks.
Obviously different people have different feelings about this. Steve Jobs thought everyone was like you. But there are people like me - apparently a lot of them. Maybe not quite as extreme - I have never bought a single song on iTunes. I've also never illegally downloaded a song. My iTunes library has only one album - the U2 album that they gave away. For close to 10 years I paid $10-15/month for Napster/Rhapsody, even though I could only listen to it on my computer and the user interface was terrible. I always said that I'd pay twice as much for subscription music from Apple since I was pretty sure that they would get it right. I've been waiting for today for a long time. I'll be paying $14.99/month for 5 people. $3/month/person is amazing. I have no desire to "own" music. It all comes down to what comes out the cheapest over the long run. For me it is subscription. I like being able to listen to an album once or a few times and then maybe never again, without feeling like I wasted money on it. It lets you be more adventurous listening to new stuff. Or old stuff. It's fun to listen to albums I had in high school, but after the nostalgia wears off I'm glad I didn't actually pay for them (again).

You're not wrong. I'm not wrong. It's just good that we have the choice.
 
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I'm losing my patience with this, I can't get iCloud Music Library to stay switched on in Settings > Music.

When I turn it on, it switches off again and says, "iCloud Music Library could not be enabled. You an enable it later from Music in Setttings."

But I'm IN Music IN Settings already, so what now?
 
I'm losing my patience with this, I can't get iCloud Music Library to stay switched on in Settings > Music.

When I turn it on, it switches off again and says, "iCloud Music Library could not be enabled. You an enable it later from Music in Setttings."

But I'm IN Music IN Settings already, so what now?

The servers are getting hammered. You have to wait and try again every ten minutes or half an hour to try again. There's nothing Apple can do to improve this, there are a lot of people hitting their services at the same time.

Several folks confirmed in various forums that trying again worked.
 
My *guess* is that you will not need a family plan unless you want to be able to both play music at the same time. Probably Apple Music will only stream to one device at a time if you are not on a Family Plan. If you do want to stream to multiple devices, you may need to pay for the family plan AND switch your wife to her own Apple ID with family sharing enabled.

The above are just guesses. I am also curious about the same thing. My family all have different Apple IDs for iCloud, but we all share the same Apple ID for iTunes. I am considering changing my family over to Family Sharing partly just so we can all have our own music experience.

I tried that and it doesn't work.

Similar situation: 4 members part of Family Sharing (each has own iCloud but use 1 for purchases).

Using family sharing in Apple Music will sync songs and playlists to all devices which sucks. There's no way to disable this.
 
Im guessing that them putting 'iTunes 12.2 coming soon' on the website means it won't be today then?
 
Im guessing that them putting 'iTunes 12.2 coming soon' on the website means it won't be today then?

It's coming later in the day at 2PM PST. Several folks mentioned that was what they were told by Apple CS reps.

Apple is staggering the updates today. iOS 8.4 first, then OS X 10.10.4 a bit later, Safari 9 Seed 1, and soon iTunes. Good chance iOS 9 and 10.11 seeds might be out later as well.
 
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