Would I lose out on call quality and signal retention going from XS Max to the Xr? I don’t quite understand all the nuances of the modem differences between the XS and Xr modems. I’m particularly interested in pure call quality. My dad always complains I sound muffled when I call from my 8 Plus. I have to call him from my Samsung or he complains I sound like I’m at the bottom of a barrel and the sound is breaking up.
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Carrier Gigabit LTE - Why is nobody talking about this?
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Theoretical speed != real world speed.
I get something like 150/30 Mbit on Verizon with a strong signal in SF with the supposedly great Qualcomm modem.
Gigabit max will make zero difference.
I get something like 150/30 Mbit on Verizon with a strong signal in SF with the supposedly great Qualcomm modem.
Gigabit max will make zero difference.
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A lot of you just don't get it. Sure, 3G in an area with a strong signal and without congestion is fast enough for what you need. LTE is needed because lots of people want to do things all at once, or for when you're in a weak signal area. When it really matters if when a Qualcomm X20 can get 2mbps on one bar of LTE, the Intel modem has nothing, and the Qualcomm on Faux G would be too slow to do anything.
Yeah nobody is getting it....why you keep comparing the 2018 x20 to the 2017 xmm 7480.
Then claim you have data to prove the 2018 xmm 7560 is inferior....you don’t, your just making things up.
Yeah nobody gets it.
I am not smart enuf to answer your question as well as others here.
I did dive further than Apple Xs and Xr comparison page to find Xs has 4x4 MIMO while Xr has 2x2.
I read also elsewhere The 4x4 is said to offer more opportunities for the antennas to find, grab and hold a signal, so I chose the Xs in the flurry of buying last night. Only motivation I had to leave my original X.
I'll enjoy 5G in Dallas and Austin with my Note 9 till Apple decides to put the chip in their phones. I saw over 250 down in Dallas 2 weeks ago. My X only saw 60 down. Crazy fast.
Yep. I had to deal with it last year on both the 8 Plus and X with Intel modems. Horrible experience! I finally switched to a X with Qualcomm and it was a significant change. The new XS is supposed to have a different generation of the Intel modem, but we can’t really tell until the phones are released.
I bet to differ since this year iPhone may use solely Intel modem but also updated antenna design to 4x4 MIMU compared to last year 2x2. This would definitely improve connectivity and speed. However, we will wait and see real world performance once someone can confirms it next week.
That would really depend on your carrier - are you seeing Voice-over-LTE (calls stay on LTE as data packets when making a call)? If your phone falls back to 4G (AT&T), or 3G (Sprint, Verizon), any argument about LTE data is irrelevant.
What carrier is your iPhone on and is your Samsung on the same carrier?
Even when using VoLTE which usually adds HD Voice if both callers support it, T-Mobile isn't interoperable with others, AT&T/Verizon are with each other. There's also the question of the audio codec at play from the carrier - I've seen some use different ones depending on the device/plan.
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The Note 9 doesn't have 5G (no consumer devices do yet) and outside of signups for home internet and testing purposes, it doesn't seem any plans are available. You might be seeing better carrier aggregation though. Still, enjoy what works best for you and I doubt anyone here will argue with that - no sense in putting up with a device that doesn't meet your needs.
Laugh, you obviously don't have a clue. Yes they do. Samsung S8, N8 and newer devices all have the support for 5G in the 1st stage. The iPhones won't see this for several years especially if they leave Qualcomm.
https://www.freebrowsinglink.com/samsung-to-launch-5g-wireless-network-already-on-the-s8/
https://www.cnet.com/news/5g-super-speeds-are-coming-heres-what-theyll-be-like-mwc-2018/
At this point, you'll see 5G-like speeds on some devices, but it's still using existing technologies - no different than when carriers like AT&T and T-Mobilestarted calling HSPA "4G" because it was fast and met some parts of the spec. Plus, if the S8 and Note 8 are 5G phones, why would the first 5G smartphone have been released this August and still need an add-on module?
http://fortune.com/2018/08/02/first-5g-phone-moto-z3-verizon/
I will agree that we'll see Apple take awhile to adopt the new tech - they've always been slow, even with adding LTE bands - Band 12 came much later, as did Band 14 and 71 with this year's iPhones. Samsung had them beat for awhile on that.
Did you not read the article? They support it. And it's already being tested by many on dslreports including myself when I was there.
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It is not using existing tech. Samsung devices are the only ones that support it so far except I believe LG may too. Please research more before you speak on something you have no clue about. The articles I posted are enough for you to figure it out.
"The good news: carriers are also upgrading their 4G networks with higher speeds so the transition won't be so bad. They're all employing a technology called Gigabit LTE, which boosts current speeds considerably. Phones like the Samsung Galaxy S8 and the upcoming Samsung Galaxy S9 are already able to access it."
https://lifehacker.com/how-and-why-to-get-gigabit-lte-on-your-android-phone-1821502789
The first stage to 5G. The Note 8, S8, and newer android devices like the article says, has the speed. No other phone can do speeds around 250-400 like I have seen already on mine or a friends phone in the Dallas Area.
It isn't full 5G, but it's the first stage to it called 5g Evolution.
[doublepost=1536973171][/doublepost]http://about.att.com/story/att_builds_on_5g_foundation_in_more_than_100_new_markets.html
AT&T customers with the latest 5G Evolution and LTE-LAA capable devices can access faster speeds and have a better experience. These devices include the Samsung Galaxy lineup – S8, S9, S8+, S9+, Note8 and S8 Active – as well as the LG V30 and Moto Z2 Force Edition.
The first stage to 5G. The Note 8, S8, and newer android devices like the article says, has the speed. No other phone can do speeds around 250-400 like I have seen already on mine or a friends phone in the Dallas Area.
It isn't full 5G, but it's the first stage to it called 5g Evolution.
[doublepost=1536973171][/doublepost]http://about.att.com/story/att_builds_on_5g_foundation_in_more_than_100_new_markets.html
AT&T customers with the latest 5G Evolution and LTE-LAA capable devices can access faster speeds and have a better experience. These devices include the Samsung Galaxy lineup – S8, S9, S8+, S9+, Note8 and S8 Active – as well as the LG V30 and Moto Z2 Force Edition.
Good summary on Gigabit LTE and the additional features - I think that may clear up some things on this thread because it is more than just potentially faster speeds.
However, "5G Evolution" is an AT&T marketing term for those devices and the suite of technologies to achieve those speeds. The features provided are really good, but it's still a better version of LTE (4G) technologies: https://www.androidauthority.com/att-new-5g-evolution-767124/
Again, this is no different when HSPA+ hit speeds where certain providers (again AT&T being the worst offender) started using the "4G" moniker in marketing - this for context: https://www.weboost.com/blog/taking-a-closer-look-at-hspa-is-it-really-4g
Last years X will do fast.com at 300mbps. No biggie. That isnt 5g.
No handsets have 5g mmwave, and youre not gonna like the range.
I'm in one of Verizon's 5G launch cities and am anxiously hoping I can get it to have another option at home (also to kick Comcast to the curb) - from what it looks like on the address checker, it's very very picky, probably due to the coverage with those high frequencies...exciting to watch the rollout and how each company is approaching it.
Agreed, but it takes technology that a lot of phones do not have but the Samsungs do.
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Samsungs can handle 1gb speeds. It may not be the mmwave though, but only a handful of phones can do it.
https://www.techtimes.com/articles/...-only-samsung-galaxy-s8-owners-can-use-it.htm
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You won't with the iPhone though.
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Yeah that’s not 5g
Then blame all these providers for false advertising. It is 5G Evolution.
Intel has been consistently behind Qualcomm for 7+ years. They're not magically going to catch up in one year.
Some of this has been the cycle of release - since Samsung tends to release the new regular Galaxy S models in the spring, they're already ahead of what Apple released the past fall in certain areas. Additionally, Samsung has been very aggressive with adopting new chipsets and radios, while Apple has taken a more conservative approach, sometimes a bit too slow.
Yeah, never was intending to - I'm not in the market to replace my phone right now and was speaking about the semi-fixed home internet options. Having some competition in that area with a good speed/price ratio is more important to me. I know some folks live ISP-less and only have a cellular plan and I think growth and development in that area is important for those users (and really anyone who is in the in-between places that isn't on Wi-Fi at home or work), too.
I absolutely am—AT&T is the only one doing it this time around and it's just creating confusion (and probably frustrating the crap out of Verizon or T-Mobile)
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Intel has only had their cellular business since 2010 when they purchased WLS and didn't ship LTE until 2013: https://finance.yahoo.com/news/inside-intel-apos-booming-cellular-223000255.html
I'll agree that they had been behind and their products have performed differently, sometimes with worse performance than Qualcomm's. On the other hand, it sounds like you're at the point of Qualcomm-or-bust, which is fair, but you may want to start hoarding iPhone 8/8 Plus/X units or jump to Android since early reports say the Xr/Xs/Xs Max appear to be Intel-only.
Obviously, if the performance is lousy and there are problems, that's going to be a big mess for Apple and I think we'll all sit there and say "yeah, BiggAW was right all along" and you'll get the kudos you deserve. On the other hand, I'd like to think at Apple's size and how important the iPhone is to their future, they'd take into consideration if they were shooting themselves in the foot.
There may be Android phones that have better performance in the ability to keep a signal or raw speed from a tower or even having a new technology first. I don't think anyone here is arguing that.