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Hahaa, that's funny. How the F did she not know she didn't have ANY texting plan on there at all? And not tell her parents she was going to text, without a plan? Lmao, she's an idiot. She should be grounded longer than that. But those parents, how could they not notice either? LOL. I just find this too funny. I don't think that family is right..
 
I work in a phone shop and I've seen worse! I get parents who come to me blowing steam because their 10 and 11 year olds download too many games and run up mega bills. Never occurs to them to tell the child to stop downloading or god forbid, confiscate the phone!
 
The way you interpreted the equation is reversed. It should be 2.16 minutes per message (meaning 1 message every 2.16 minutes) or .4629 messages per minute.

Double the first number and half the second number for the sent only number--- 4.32 minutes per message (meaning 1 message every 4.32 minutes) or .2314 messages per minute.

These numbers are based on 24-hour days and 30 day months. For 16-hour days and 30 day months I get 1.44 minutes per message sent/received or .6944 messages per minute sent/received and 2.88 minutes per message sent or .3472 messages per minute sent.

man that is totally awesome. thanks for catching the unit error in the previous post (msg/min vs. min/msg) I loved all your other calculations, too. I was just about to do the same thing! Geeks Unite!!!:D
 
I work in a phone shop and I've seen worse! I get parents who come to me blowing steam because their 10 and 11 year olds download too many games and run up mega bills. Never occurs to them to tell the child to stop downloading or god forbid, confiscate the phone!
I would never have allowed my son/daughter to have a cell phone at 10/11.

No way in heck would that happen. What are these parents thinking?
 
I am 14 and I think that kids should not have cell phones unless they drive by them selves. Why does a kid need a cell phone if they do not drive. They are at home (landline) or with a adult (which should have a cell phone) at all times unless they drive which then it should be one that is prepaid so you know how much she is using unless she is paying for the cards which if she wants to talk/text 24/7 she gets to pay for it.

I actually do not like cell phones because they give me headaches.
 
Parents who buy their kids a contract phone are just asking for trouble.

Why does a kid need a cell phone if they do not drive. They are at home (landline) or with a adult (which should have a cell phone) at all times unless they drive which then it should be one that is prepaid so you know how much she is using unless she is paying for the cards which if she wants to talk/text 24/7 she gets to pay for it.

Sorry, but when I was 14 I was regularly out either on my own or with friends. Expecting kids that age to always be with an adult is idiotic (unless they have crazy control freak parents).
 
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Originally Posted by joeshell383
The way you interpreted the equation is reversed. It should be 2.16 minutes per message (meaning 1 message every 2.16 minutes) or .4629 messages per minute.

Double the first number and half the second number for the sent only number--- 4.32 minutes per message (meaning 1 message every 4.32 minutes) or .2314 messages per minute.

These numbers are based on 24-hour days and 30 day months. For 16-hour days and 30 day months I get 1.44 minutes per message sent/received or .6944 messages per minute sent/received and 2.88 minutes per message sent or .3472 messages per minute sent.


Does this kid sleep? Man!
 
It's really not so weird for someone to have a mobile at age 11. I'm not saying it's something I'd allow, or that an 11 year old should have one, but it's not unreasonable.

http://www.crunchgear.com/2009/02/18/average-age-for-first-cell-phone-eight/
http://www.commercialexploitation.org/news/2009/02/childrenmobilephone.html
http://dan.hersam.com/2009/02/18/average-age-for-a-kids-cell-phone/


If I did allow my hypothetical child to own a mobile phone, it would be a kids model with funky colours, big buttons, and no other capabilities other than voice. Also, it'll only be able to phone 5 different phone numbers. These numbers are stored on the phone: Home, my mobile, hypothetical mum's, older sister/brother's, and that's it. The phone also can't receive calls unless it's from one of these phone numbers.

Such a mobile for kids does exist, and I think it's a pretty good idea for some families.

Is this true in the US? Are you billed for incoming texts? That seems a bit silly - in the UK we're only charged for outgoing texts.

I believe this was true until recently. Now some companies will charge for text, despite the fact that these text messages don't put a load on their system at all. They say it does, but from what I've read, SMS doesn't have the slightest effect on their networks. It's actually the easiest way for mobile companies to make money, since it doesn't put a load on the system like voice and internet does, and yet people are paying a lot, relatively speaking.
 
I am 14 and I think that kids should not have cell phones unless they drive by them selves. Why does a kid need a cell phone if they do not drive. They are at home (landline) or with a adult (which should have a cell phone) at all times unless they drive which then it should be one that is prepaid so you know how much she is using unless she is paying for the cards which if she wants to talk/text 24/7 she gets to pay for it.

I actually do not like cell phones because they give me headaches.

No that is not the case any more. Now I did not get a cell phone until I started driving nor did my brother but there where times that for both of us it would of been nice to have one before we started driving.

My sister got her first cell like at 13-14 years old. It was helpful for my parents because of different sports she played or when she was out with friends. It was a lot easier to schedule things and have that extra line of communications.

The phone company I am surprised did not contact them when it started getting out of hand. I know ATT sent me a message when I got my data pretty high up offering to upgrade me and wave the fees. It worked out great for me.

The contract part well it is cheaper to roll the kid into the contact with the parents than it is to set up the prepaid. Big time when the plan already has a lot of minutes to burn.
 
I believe this was true until recently. Now some companies will charge for text, despite the fact that these text messages don't put a load on their system at all. They say it does, but from what I've read, SMS doesn't have the slightest effect on their networks. It's actually the easiest way for mobile companies to make money, since it doesn't put a load on the system like voice and internet does, and yet people are paying a lot, relatively speaking.

I think one day it will become free. I have noticed over the years the price per min and the price per text messaging has been dropping at a very fast rate. Now we are seeing $15-20 a month for family plan unlimited messaging. It was not to long ago that for $20 might only get you 500 text messages on a single line.
 
If he used the hammer on the phone, I hate to see what he is going to do to that frisky boyfriend in the future.
 
In other words, 41.7 messages/hour sent or received and 20.8 messages/hour sent.

And assuming 15 seconds per text (I don't text so I'm just guessing), that's 41.6 hours of sending and 83.3 hours of sending/receiving (5.79% and 11.6% of total time in the month).

Thats not that many messages per hour. If I'm texting 5 or 6 people its no problem to go through 100 or more messages an hour. But its just not feasible to keep that pace up. I think she must have been sending many duplicates, or spam messaging to her whole contact list at once
 
ok. I will 100% admit I'm going to judge here.

So the parents thought that texting was disabled on their 13 year old daughter's phone. Fair enough.

But what in the heck are they doing as parents for their daughter to have that much time to send that many messages?!?! Granted, yes...some txt msgs are very short, but still...that is ridiculous.

Either she texted the entire time in school or every few second while at home and therein lies my judgement - how could she get away with this?

I have kids so that is from where my judgement comes - honestly! did they work all the time or just let her spend her time in her room?

Good on the Dad for smashing it up. That is a job well done. I would have done the same.

http://cnews.canoe.ca/CNEWS/WeirdNews/2009/04/09/9072136-ap.html

I realize I may be over-reacting, but again, as a Parent with younger kids yet to reach the teen years... I question how this could happen.

cheers,
keebler


Not that unbelieveable to be honest.
I wasn't at that level, but back in October I had this crazy girlfriend (now, ex) who would seriously text me at every waking hour (and non-waking). So that month I ended up with 16,587 texts sent and recieved. I had unlimited texting though. I hated it. She would threaten suicide if I didn't text her back in under say 5 minutes, or freak out and say that I "hate her".
 
Is this true in the US? Are you billed for incoming texts? That seems a bit silly - in the UK we're only charged for outgoing texts.

The US (and I'm sure many will agree - I see nothing but complaints here) has a long way to go in its cell services and plans to catch up. It's one area they really are quite behind on.

I couldn't believe it either when I found out (just a few days ago, on this very board actually).
 
yeah good thing they have verizon and they knocked the price down. if it was sprint the bill would prob be $10,000
 
The US (and I'm sure many will agree - I see nothing but complaints here) has a long way to go in its cell services and plans to catch up. It's one area they really are quite behind on.

I couldn't believe it either when I found out (just a few days ago, on this very board actually).

That notion is exaggerated.

As far as plans, all of the large providers offer unlimited plans for voice, high-speed data, and SMS/MMS for those that are concerned about overages. While most non-unlimited plans are billed for incoming calls and messages, those plans usually feature vast mobile-to-mobile unlimited calling networks (AT&T and Verizon in excess of 70 million each), family plans, and unlimited night and weekend calling. AT&T takes it further with Unity and Rollover. With smart phones, including the iPhone, many are skipping the carrier based multimedia options and downloading/installing free or low cost, high quality ringtones and apps.

As far as 3G, three of the four major carriers offer it (T-Mobile does, but it is not sufficient enough to mention), with the CDMA carriers featuring very extensive coverage. The GSM carriers are behind, but AT&T has been catching up quickly.

As far as hardware, the iPhone debuted and is available in the U.S. Other makers have quickly tried to release competing models which has quickly pushed up the bar for what is expected from even basic cell phones. RFID, built-in TV and radio, and high MP/front-facing cameras have not yet taken off in the U.S., but likely will very soon, especially if high-profile makers like BlackBerry or Apple release such features in upcoming models.
 
That notion is exaggerated.

As far as plans, all of the large providers offer unlimited plans for voice, high-speed data, and SMS/MMS for those that are concerned about overages. While most non-unlimited plans are billed for incoming calls and messages, those plans usually feature vast mobile-to-mobile unlimited calling networks (AT&T and Verizon in excess of 70 million each), family plans, and unlimited night and weekend calling. AT&T takes it further with Unity and Rollover. With smart phones, including the iPhone, many are skipping the carrier based multimedia options and downloading/installing free or low cost, high quality ringtones and apps.

As far as 3G, three of the four major carriers offer it (T-Mobile does, but it is not sufficient enough to mention), with the CDMA carriers featuring very extensive coverage. The GSM carriers are behind, but AT&T has been catching up quickly.

As far as hardware, the iPhone debuted and is available in the U.S. Other makers have quickly tried to release competing models which has quickly pushed up the bar for what is expected from even basic cell phones. RFID, built-in TV and radio, and high MP/front-facing cameras have not yet taken off in the U.S., but likely will very soon, especially if high-profile makers like BlackBerry or Apple release such features in upcoming models.

That's fair enough mate, I'm just saying the US has a fair bit to go to catch up to Europe and, in particular, the Far East.

Thanks for the informative post mate :)
 
Is this true in the US? Are you billed for incoming texts? That seems a bit silly - in the UK we're only charged for outgoing texts.

Depends on the carrier. On my old (pre-Cingular merger) AT&T plan I had free incoming texts. When I turned in my TDMA phone for a GSM phone, I had to start a new contract with Cingular (which has since changed its name back to AT&T) and they charge for incoming as well as outgoing texts. When my company required the ability to reach me via text as a condition to reimburse my wireless bill I left texting enabled. Once the texting requirement was lifted, it took a single spam text message for me to disable the feature.
 
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