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In no way do I want to bash the iPhone, because i have the iPod touch and love it. I am merely trying to get this community to see the other side of things. First off, that review of the Storm on Digg was HEAVILY biased. When he is talking about memory expansion, i remember that was one of the main things hindering the iPhone. RIM also listened to frustrated iPhone users when referring to the keyboard. To solve the problem, they added a 'click' mechanism to it. From the people i know who have it, they can type at a very good pace with it. Give RIM some credit. They threw in the glass touchscreen, something many competitors do not have. Multi-touch for copy/paste, and RIM said they were finding more ways to use the multi touch.

Again, I know the iPhone deserves credit as well, but you need to give credit where credit is due. I love the OS of iPhone, the look and feel, but a also feel the Storm will really give it a run for its money, especially when RIM starts reeling out the App Store and other software revisions.

Throw in the ease-of-use and the Blackberry gold standard to email and business, it could be a real competition. Let's face it, the Storm has its flaws like iPhone and every other device, but the deciding factor will be the type of consumer. The iPhone is more of a 'toy' than anything else.
 
You were going really well until the last sentence ;)

iPhone isn't really a toy ... its a very powerful device but the storm is a worthy oponent and if it does nothing else it will help to drive the iPhone forward
 
I'm sorry.. but the iPhone is definitely not a toy. It has A LOT of uses that make life easier and more fun.

And still... no phone (even the Storm) can match the iPhone's safari browser.
 
In no way do I want to bash the iPhone, because i have the iPod touch and love it. I am merely trying to get this community to see the other side of things. First off, that review of the Storm on Digg was HEAVILY biased. When he is talking about memory expansion, i remember that was one of the main things hindering the iPhone. RIM also listened to frustrated iPhone users when referring to the keyboard. To solve the problem, they added a 'click' mechanism to it. From the people i know who have it, they can type at a very good pace with it. Give RIM some credit. They threw in the glass touchscreen, something many competitors do not have. Multi-touch for copy/paste, and RIM said they were finding more ways to use the multi touch.

Again, I know the iPhone deserves credit as well, but you need to give credit where credit is due. I love the OS of iPhone, the look and feel, but a also feel the Storm will really give it a run for its money, especially when RIM starts reeling out the App Store and other software revisions.

Throw in the ease-of-use and the Blackberry gold standard to email and business, it could be a real competition. Let's face it, the Storm has its flaws like iPhone and every other device, but the deciding factor will be the type of consumer. The iPhone is more of a 'toy' than anything else.

My opinion?
In the end, they are all just phones. I'm sure the Storm is a nice phone to use, and the iPhone is nice to use as well.
 
Forgetting the iPhone altogether.

Blackberry's are renowned for their email capabilities and ease of use for emails and messaging.

Blackberry's newest handset (The Storm) is not currently easy to use for that one thing, after calls, that people historically choose to use Blackberry's for. Emails and messaging.

The click screen and inaccuracy of typing makes things far more difficult than they need to be.
 
A phone is a phone

To be quite honest with you


If it can make calls then i dont care really.

In the past when i have had nice phones i have never used half of the features.

I would love an iPhone but i dont really think i need all that




ML
 
You were going really well until the last sentence ;)

iPhone isn't really a toy ... its a very powerful device but the storm is a worthy oponent and if it does nothing else it will help to drive the iPhone forward

IF it isn't a toy, geared towards consumers and not business people, shouldn't they advertise that instead of their app store

The click screen and inaccuracy of typing makes things far more difficult than they need to be.

Inaccuracy of typing?! LOL that is exactly what RIM was fixing by adding the SurePress
 
IF it isn't a toy, geared towards consumers and not business people, shouldn't they advertise that instead of their app store



Inaccuracy of typing?! LOL that is exactly what RIM was fixing by adding the SurePress

So every product not peddled to the business world is a toy?

WTF kinda thinking is that?

As for the click, well thats just a little metal plate with a dimple for people who are blind apparantly. You see the letter on the screen, it means it registered the click, why do we need some sort of halfway system for people who cant get over a physical response to keys?

Any way the only real qualm i have about that phone is a biggie, NO FREAKING WIFI!

I sure as hell wouldnt use the internet on it without wifi cuz i dont want to be raped by data useage bills (sure theres "unlimited" but that has a cap on it!).

Somethings seriously wrong with these companies if they think copy and paste is more important to the consumer than wifi.
 
Inaccuracy of typing?! LOL that is exactly what RIM was fixing by adding the SurePress

I know, but on the current launch release firmware it's backfired on them. Go and try it. I've played extensively with the Vodafone UK one's.
 
IF it isn't a toy, geared towards consumers and not business people, shouldn't they advertise that instead of their app store



Inaccuracy of typing?! LOL that is exactly what RIM was fixing by adding the SurePress

The iPhone is most certainly not a toy. The app store is full of non-game apps that are extremely useful. The iPhone was absolutely aimed at consumers at launch, and improved with Exchange support for business users.

I hope that the Storm does well as that will push Apple to continue to improve the iPhone. Competition is a good thing.
 
I haven't tried it yet, but from what I've read, the Storm's nice-looking OS is just a candy shell on top of their same old system. Scratch more than the surface and you're back into the 'old' system. Kind of like how Windows 95 was just an interface on top of DOS.

So I'm not saying this is bad, but it makes me wonder how much the Storm will be able to challenge the iPhone's OS when it's not actually a brand new system, but just a spruced-up old one.

Again, I don't know. Maybe it's great. But this is something I want to know more about.

Also, the lack of wi-fi is a pretty big deal. I don't know if Verizon actually blocked it or if it was RIM's idea. But either way, that's not good. Even if you don't use wi-fi it makes you wonder where else they cut corners, hm?
 
Also, the lack of wi-fi is a pretty big deal. I don't know if Verizon actually blocked it or if it was RIM's idea. But either way, that's not good. Even if you don't use wi-fi it makes you wonder where else they cut corners, hm?

I believe 'The Network' blocked it. Why would they allow you to get free internet, when they can charge you $49/mo + Tax/Fees, and cap your data after a certain amount of usage?

It's happened before, and it will continue to happen. Look at AT&T's Curve vs. T-Mo's Curve.
 
As I said in another thread:

"As with everything at this forum there is very little objectivity towards anything non-Apple. "

Im a Mac user, I used an iPhone for a year and a half, have had iPods forever, but I dont profess everything Apple makes to be the end-all, be-all of that particular product. I know there are others that think the same way, but overall at this or most Mac forums its either Apple or its crap.
 
Only Storm I want to play with is this one:

promo2-storm.jpg
 
I personally have nothing against the Storm. However, I always tell the truth.

RIM cannot take over a market Apple already had control of long before the iPhone. For them to do that, the Storm would have to be much better than the iPhone.

Don't forget, it's not only the hardware but the software as well. There's no competition for iTunes at the moment. Not so much for design, but in terms of sheer popularity.

The Storm will help Verizon retain its customers, nothing more.

I would like to see how the Storm fares out in 6 months to 1 year. Remember the Voyager?
 
The iPhone is most certainly not a toy. The app store is full of non-game apps that are extremely useful. The iPhone was absolutely aimed at consumers at launch, and improved with Exchange support for business users.

I hope that the Storm does well as that will push Apple to continue to improve the iPhone. Competition is a good thing.

true, there are many non-game apps in the app store, however, there are more games than anything else.

And i think its great that apple has tried to improve exchange. with the launch of their background notification service (2 months behind as of now) it will really help the cause.
 
In no way do I want to bash the iPhone, because i have the iPod touch and love it. I am merely trying to get this community to see the other side of things. First off, that review of the Storm on Digg was HEAVILY biased. When he is talking about memory expansion, i remember that was one of the main things hindering the iPhone. RIM also listened to frustrated iPhone users when referring to the keyboard. To solve the problem, they added a 'click' mechanism to it. From the people i know who have it, they can type at a very good pace with it. Give RIM some credit. They threw in the glass touchscreen, something many competitors do not have. Multi-touch for copy/paste, and RIM said they were finding more ways to use the multi touch.

Again, I know the iPhone deserves credit as well, but you need to give credit where credit is due. I love the OS of iPhone, the look and feel, but a also feel the Storm will really give it a run for its money, especially when RIM starts reeling out the App Store and other software revisions.

Throw in the ease-of-use and the Blackberry gold standard to email and business, it could be a real competition. Let's face it, the Storm has its flaws like iPhone and every other device, but the deciding factor will be the type of consumer. The iPhone is more of a 'toy' than anything else.

This is an iPhone forum... I say we string him up guys....
 
MP3 / media player market.

So how is RIM trying to take over the mp3 market? Thats like saying Apple, with the release of the iPhone, tried to take over the email market from RIM.

I really, really do love Apple products but the fanboyism is just completely out of control around here.
 
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