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Global Security Chief John Theriault Reportedly Leaves Apple

Bonuses Given To Stop Mass Exodus

Wow, the hypocrisy is flowing like water here. The moment a guy leaves he's trashed roundly by those who don't even know him, nor are they on the inside.

On another note, perhaps it's the other way around... perhaps Apple is bleeding executives, as they walk out.

Breaking news is the fact that Apple is giving huge bonuses to those who STAY !

http://news.cnet.com/8301-27076_3-57318938-248/apple-gives-most-of-its-top-execs-$60m-bonuses/?tag=mncol;mlt_related

Perhaps it's the water :eek:
 
*LTD* said:
Just a shot in the dark, but that might be a reason for his departure right there. Apple has this habit of keeping the best people. Looks like Theriault no longer belonged in that echelon, because he was lousy at his job. People usually get canned for that, you know.



If it's taken on "increased" importance, Theriault might not have been up to the task. A decision was probably made as a result.

We already know that Cook is doing some re-shuffling, promotions, and general house-cleaning. These activities were so conspicuous that there were numerous articles about it over the web a few days back. Maybe Theriault just got tossed into the dustbin.

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I'd like to hear more of what you know about his job and what he was personally responsible for. Does your position in the company give you privy to behind the scenes dirt on management? Do they consult with you on these types of decisions? Thanks.
 
Steve's Barber said:
Wow. This is just a little too much fanboy worship for my tastes. Where the heck did this come from?
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If you think i am a fanboy you should read my other posts around the forum (aint that many)

But I asked the question because of fanboys...;p
 
Nostromo said:
Tim Cook killing off people who are linked to competitors for the CEO chair?

Or an executive who doesn't want to work under Cook?

Or Cook who doesn't want to work with Theriault because he wants a different person there?

That guy came from Pfizer. It always amazed me how people work in a company producing dishwasher liquid one day, and then switch to a tech company the next. Is security work for a pharmaceutical company so comparable to security for a computer and gadget company?
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They are not so different. Security is security. Its not like they transferred to the production and design department where they touch the product concepts and development.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I'd like to hear more of what you know about his job and what he was personally responsible for. Does your position in the company give you privy to behind the scenes dirt on management? Do they consult with you on these types of decisions? Thanks.
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Once again:

https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/13792507/

All anyone needs to know:

MacRumors said:
Update: AllThingsD confirms that Theriault has left Apple, and while the reason for his departure is officially said to be retirement, sources indicate that the circumstances surrounding the latest lost iPhone case are indeed the root cause.

Article Link: Global Security Chief John Theriault Reportedly Leaves Apple
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You're most welcome.
 
*LTD* said:
Oh, you know him? Good. Ask him why he got ****-canned. I'd be interested to know how the visionary security VP spins it.

Or if you REALLY want to know, ask Tim Cook.

Leo Apotheker's done very well for himself too. Up until recently. I wonder how fat his severance from HP was after he screwed the pooch.

Some of these execs are a dime-a-dozen - one wonders how the hell ever some of them got their jobs, though I'm sure they're lovely people to have over for coffee.
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Next time I see him I can ask more about his departure.

Fact remains I would rather be any of these so called "dime-a-dozen" execs than an underperforming zealot on macrumors.

You can quote all the speculative articles and pretend to grasp corporate environments/politics of Fortune 100 companies, but until you get a real job all you can do blabber about things you dont understand.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
Of course he was great until he left Apple, right? Of course you had no criticism of him while he was there. :rolleyes:
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Given the information we have about security issues that were supposed to be his area, no he wasn't great until he left Apple, which is why he left Apple. LOL
 
if that's the case,....

*LTD* said:
Given the information we have about security issues that were supposed to be his area, no he wasn't great until he left Apple, which is why he left Apple. LOL
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If that's true, then why do we have rumours that the guy who created the bloated mess of a pig called "Itunes" is in charge of a major new future product?

And I shouldn't need to mention the MobileMe disaster, nor the ongoing Imatch train wreck, or ask if Siri is working again.

I suspect the real reason that Theriault left is due to a power struggle (MBA Tim arranging the deck chairs to better suit himself) or personality conflict, and any mention of Apple's "Gestapo Raid" in San Francisco is just a public posturing to let everyone save face.
 
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*LTD* said:
Given the information we have about security issues that were supposed to be his area, no he wasn't great until he left Apple, which is why he left Apple. LOL
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What do you know about it other than speculation? A missing iPhone? Tell me how many security issues he resolved that weren't made public, then I'll be impressed with your insider information.
 
AppleScruff1 said:
What do you know about it other than speculation? A missing iPhone? Tell me how many security issues he resolved that weren't made public, then I'll be impressed with your insider information.
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http://allthingsd.com/20111104/confirmed-apple-security-chief-investigating-early-retirement/

A pat explanation for the former FBI agent’s departure, which follows a bungled investigation into a lost iPhone 4S prototype earlier this year. And, indeed, sources close to Apple say that debacle — which involved allegations that Apple’s security officials impersonated San Francisco police officers — is the real reason he’s no longer with the company.

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I'll just go with the obvious explanation that actually made the news. If there are any other updates that do not support this, let us know. Maybe you can do some investigating to set the record straight and then issue a press release.
 
*LTD* said:
http://allthingsd.com/20111104/confirmed-apple-security-chief-investigating-early-retirement/

A pat explanation for the former FBI agent’s departure, which follows a bungled investigation into a lost iPhone 4S prototype earlier this year. And, indeed, sources close to Apple say that debacle — which involved allegations that Apple’s security officials impersonated San Francisco police officers — is the real reason he’s no longer with the company.

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I'll just go with the obvious explanation that actually made the news. If there are any other updates that do not support this, let us know. Maybe you can do some investigating to set the record straight and then issue a press release.
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I'm making no speculations at all. You're the expert, not me. If I remember correctly, weren't you on Apple's side in the private home search? You said they did nothing wrong? And now it's a botched investigation?
 
AppleScruff1 said:
I'm making no speculations at all. You're the expert, not me. If I remember correctly, weren't you on Apple's side in the private home search? You said they did nothing wrong? And now it's a botched investigation?
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I'm not passing judgment on the investigation. What I think about it is irrelevant. It's what Tim Cook thinks about it. If you're looking for reasons, those are it. If Tim Cook (or whoever makes this type of HR decision at Apple) thinks that was a security screw-up (in addition to the iPhone prototype loss, for example, and possibly other related problems), and given talk of sources confirming this as a reason, then in the absence of further information the reasons for dismissal (or "retirement") are right in front of you.

Of course, this doesn't bar you from making up any other reason in your head, nor does it prevent you from discarding this reason, if you're looking to create an argument where there need not be any.

Just connect the dots.
 
I say good riddance, I love the speculation and secrecy of not having a bloody clue what Apple will release for a new product or update! This iPhone leak really gutted me, as all fun of waiting and watching what would have been one of Apples biggest keynotes in a longtime no longer there!

Security is a big thing, he should have been fired long ago. In fact I think it may have been a contractual issue that prevented Steve himself getting rid of the idiot!
 
*LTD* said:
If that were cause for dismissal, Adobe would be half-empty tomorrow.
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Hardly - Adobe apps are big with many features, but you know what each app is for.

Itunes?

Is it a firmware updater? Is it a device sync tool? Is it a music player? Is it a video player? Is it a media library organizer? Is it an online store front? Is it a social networking portal?

It has no focus. The cliché "jack of all trades, master of none" comes to mind - it tries to do lots of things, but in the end does few of them well.

Nice deflection though - instead of acknowledging that something from Apple is less than it could be, you take a pot shot at Adobe.

Classy - NOT.
 
Risco said:
This iPhone leak really gutted me, as all fun of waiting and watching what would have been one of Apples biggest keynotes in a longtime no longer there!
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Umm, they added an "S" to the "Iphone 4". That's hardly one of the biggest things in a "longtime".

And, it wasn't a "keynote" really - a "keynote" speech is a major presentation in a (usually multi-day) event with many presentations. It's "keynote" because it's more important or newsworthy than the rest of the presentations.

If you stage a special media event for one purpose, the presentation is the event, not a "keynote speech" in the event.
 
*LTD* said:
I'm not passing judgment on the investigation. What I think about it is irrelevant. It's what Tim Cook thinks about it. If you're looking for reasons, those are it. If Tim Cook (or whoever makes this type of HR decision at Apple) thinks that was a security screw-up (in addition to the iPhone prototype loss, for example, and possibly other related problems), and given talk of sources confirming this as a reason, then in the absence of further information the reasons for dismissal (or "retirement") are right in front of you.

Of course, this doesn't bar you from making up any other reason in your head, nor does it prevent you from discarding this reason, if you're looking to create an argument where there need not be any.

Just connect the dots.
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You mean you're not passing judgement on the investigation now? But you did when it took place. So all of your ad nauseam posts defending Apple are irrelevant too? I guess with the absence of further information and basing it solely on what you post this must be the case. The dots have been connected.
 
I'm glad this guy is FIRED! but of course, they all LIED, pretending that he was RETIRED!
 
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