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GM not ready for release
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Running on a late 2009 27" iMac and a 2011 MacBook Pro. Both upgraded from 10.8.5. Both running solidly with zero defects.
Only run safari, mail, outlook 2011, iCal, Cisco VPN, ARD, iTunes, CoRD, photoshop, Dreamweaver, unison, skype, iWork, warcraft, VMware fusion (windows7 and 8 vm's) on a daily basis. Now along with maps. Plus various other bits n bobs.
I have 1 mail account in outlook 2011 and 4 in mail. All devices sync with icloud and iTunes Match.
The iMac runs 24/7 (no sleep) and the MacBook is in and out of sleep all day.
Only run safari, mail, outlook 2011, iCal, Cisco VPN, ARD, iTunes, CoRD, photoshop, Dreamweaver, unison, skype, iWork, warcraft, VMware fusion (windows7 and 8 vm's) on a daily basis. Now along with maps. Plus various other bits n bobs.
I have 1 mail account in outlook 2011 and 4 in mail. All devices sync with icloud and iTunes Match.
The iMac runs 24/7 (no sleep) and the MacBook is in and out of sleep all day.
Thanks for reminding me. I use the built in Cisco VPN client, i've got 30+ VPN profiles. This often fails. i.e I can connect to the VPN but can't actually pass any data.
Resolution is either to reboot or kill the "racoon" process.
Right now as I am typing this i've got weird graphics artefacts flashing on my laptos screen (using 27" external monitor as primary).
Word to all: Wait until 10.9.1 or 10.9.2.
After running Mavericks since DP4 on my Mac Mini, and a couple of days with GM on my 2012 rMBP, the overall experience is positive. It feels more smoother on Mac Mini, compared with ML.
But I am really bothered by the random freeze with my Mac mini. I'm using a KVM switch to share monitor and keyboard mouse between another PC running Ubuntu. When switched to the Mac, it just froze, not every time, but very often. It never happened on ML, or even DP4/DP5. I am wondering if it was triggered by the fast switching of the USB hub from my Dell monitor. But it's really annoying.
But I am really bothered by the random freeze with my Mac mini. I'm using a KVM switch to share monitor and keyboard mouse between another PC running Ubuntu. When switched to the Mac, it just froze, not every time, but very often. It never happened on ML, or even DP4/DP5. I am wondering if it was triggered by the fast switching of the USB hub from my Dell monitor. But it's really annoying.
No they can't. To be useful a bug report needs to define some action and a wrong response that is repeatable. It needs to say exactly what hardware and list all the software being run at the time.
If safari has performance problem what URLs where loaded in the tabs? Details like this matter and if not supplied make any bug report useless and maybe even give it less credibility.
On top of these usless bg reports one other trand I've noticed: People don't seem to be doing anything with their computers but looking at page pages. One would think developers who are testing a DP would see the problems while testing there software or running Xcode where they spend the majority of their time but those seem to be running just fine and the problems show up in the desktop and browser. Is anyone doing design work on Adobe CS or cutting film in FCPX? The depth of testing being reported here seems ultra shallow, just lagy desktop widgets. Noe complaining about buggy APIs or anything that really maters or is even repeatable.
Perhaps this points out the problem with using beta tests to find bugs. Users do do a slight amount of shallow testing find some snag like a lagging scrol bar, and don't bother to investigate where ARE those CPU cycles going. They don't look don't check to see what files are open by which processes or anything like that.
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Is the KVM switch smart enough to make the mac "think" the keyboard and monitor are still attached when they are not or does the mac think you are plugging and unplugging the devices. You'd have to SSH into the mac to see which
Having been using 10.9 since DP4 on my MacBook Pro... I am going to disagree.
Granted you could be using things I don't, but a blanket 'don't upgrade' is completely unfair.
I have not come across a single reoccurring issue (intact I can't remember even having a single issue) with 10.9.
Having jumped ship at every new release I can't say i've ever regretted it.
Just because you haven't experienced any bugs doesn't mean people should upgrade. Theses bugs DO exist, and a lot of people will be affected when they upgrade. You probably weren't affected due to applications / workflow differ form mine.
The kicker is that people won't know if they are affected until they upgrade.... so its a bit of a gamble.
If / when all these bugs are fixed and the release is stable, THEN people should upgrade without risk or "gambling", not before.
You could level your comments at every single OS ever released. 10.8.5 buggered up sleep on my Mac Pro, for example.
Given I'm using the core apps, plus PS, LR and Office 2011, like 95% of people will be [and really, 90% of mac owners will be using the core apps in a minimal way ONLY], then I can't see them having any issues what so ever.
Unless you do extensive research into every single app you use the ONLY way you know it will work for you is to try it!!!
The bottom line is 10.9 is, for my usage, not any more buggy than 10.8.5 is!!!
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I think you miss the point of GM..
GM is Golden Master, as the iOS 7 GM was, is the final release file.
10.9.0 will be this build, unless they find major things wrong with it...
Can't be, i'm on an Early 2011 MBP as well. Maybe I just got really lucky because I haven't had a single issue since I upgraded to Mavericks!
Feel sorry for those who have had issues though, are they present after a fresh install?
I had major wifi issues on the GM. I would have to turn wifi on and off multiple times before it would actually work. Another Mac on same network but on mountain lion has no issues with wifi.
You missed his point. He is saying this is the best an OS X release has been at, well, release.
I'm also still struggling with this. Same scenario. Just the GM, the DP's before it were ok. Only happens after a reboot at the start of the day and even that's intermittent. For me, Apple+OSX+Wi-Fi have always had problems since 10.6 it seems. All Windows devices always work fine in my house. It's just the macs. (iOS is fine).
Are you sure that iOS 7 GM was the same build that IOS 7.0?
I missed some functions in the GM version that I got when I restores to iOS 7.0. (Yeah, NOT 7.0.2)