No CarPlay, no car. No doubt GM will make this a subscription model too.
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GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars [Updated]
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That's some chutzpah right there.
They can keep saying stuff like that over and over, but it still sure seems like they just want to be able to monetize their in-car infotainment systems. To be fair: same story out of Rivian. They just explain away the fact that customers want it.
Also: GMs EVs are selling pretty darn well without CarPlay. Difficult or impossible to say how many sales they might be losing because of it though.
GM says goodbye to many purchases. Guess they don't care.
I don't understand this approach. CarPlay or whatever the google equivalent is, is universal and can be updated easily. It can't be that hard to support. I hate many of the in car navigation systems. Why remove it? Am I missing something. Do car manufacturers have to pay some licensing or something to have it as an option in cars?
Just the other day, somebody gave me heat for saying I will never buy a GM car because they were dropping CarPlay and claimed that their gas vehicles will continue to have it. Guess that aged like milk.
I’ll play along: How do current GM cars handle text messaging through iOS? Do they alert you to new texts and read them on request? Can you see the list of contacts who have texted you? Can you see your favorites list? Can you click on someone and dictate and send a text response? Can you use the car’s assistant to do the same with no touch?
Here’s another one: I currently use CarPlay to click on and control lessons in a foreign language study app. That’s part of my regular driving experience. GM, how do I use and control my library on that app on your system?
Here’s another one: I currently use CarPlay to click on and control lessons in a foreign language study app. That’s part of my regular driving experience. GM, how do I use and control my library on that app on your system?
Luckily, GM vehicles are never on my radar, so no great loss to me.
Getting rid of phone integrations means losing the best navigation and media apps on the vehicle screen. In-practice, users will go back to sticking their phones to the dashboard. Not so immersive after all.
I drive Ford/Lincoln and an old Chevrolet from the 1990's. I'm not opposed to buying a new GM if it suited my desires.
I don't specifically look for CarPlay as an option because it's been standard for a while now on pretty much every major brand out there. I don't use it everyday, but there are times I like it, especially when traveling.
Knowing that GM is removing it pretty much solidifies I won't buy a new GM anytime soon.
I don't specifically look for CarPlay as an option because it's been standard for a while now on pretty much every major brand out there. I don't use it everyday, but there are times I like it, especially when traveling.
Knowing that GM is removing it pretty much solidifies I won't buy a new GM anytime soon.
What a lazy reply from GM. I don’t own or need to drive a car but if I was in the market and AirPlay wasn’t an option I’d just skip that brand.
One of the main reasons GM probably did this is to sell more OnStar subscriptions. Starting at $9.99/month you can “Take the apps you know on the go: Music, Podcasts, Audiobooks, News.” Sound familiar? CarPlay is in direct competition with that.
The good news here is this opens up a wonderful opportunity for all the other manufacturers to continue offering CarPlay and stick it to GM.
A huge reason the Honda prologue has been selling so well is that it’s a blazer EV rebadged and tweaked by Honda… and still offering CarPlay.
A huge reason the Honda prologue has been selling so well is that it’s a blazer EV rebadged and tweaked by Honda… and still offering CarPlay.
Sell users' data is very lucrative to car companies
GM Got Caught Selling Its Driver's Data to Insurance Companies; Now It Says It Doesn't
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Guess I won't be buying a GM vehicle in the future. Nice to know.
Apple commands and enjoys a level of brand loyalty most companies on this planet don't come close to and GM is not counting that into the calculus of this decision. Buyers will choose to have an iOS like interface over a GM interface that doesn't interact well with the rest of their digital life.
Truly a ridiculous thing to do.
For the past almost 2½ years I have a Tesla and sure, their software is great, but the phone connection- especially for texting is absolutely abysmal. I miss CarPlay for that one thing all by itself. But in addition, when it comes to streaming- need to find the right app for each thing- one for Podcasts, on for Apple Music, one for TuneIn... and so on...and the icons are rather small on the screen.
When I get rid of this car in about a year, I will really look for a car with CarPlay (probably end up back with VW)... having a EV without being able to charge at home hasn't been awful, but it hasn't been a great experience either. For the 6500 miles a year I drive, it's not that big of a deal to have an EV.
For the past almost 2½ years I have a Tesla and sure, their software is great, but the phone connection- especially for texting is absolutely abysmal. I miss CarPlay for that one thing all by itself. But in addition, when it comes to streaming- need to find the right app for each thing- one for Podcasts, on for Apple Music, one for TuneIn... and so on...and the icons are rather small on the screen.
When I get rid of this car in about a year, I will really look for a car with CarPlay (probably end up back with VW)... having a EV without being able to charge at home hasn't been awful, but it hasn't been a great experience either. For the 6500 miles a year I drive, it's not that big of a deal to have an EV.
No. Apple and Google don’t provide automakers with post-sale driver data if the person is using CarPlay. The automakers want that data to sell to “trusted partners,” which is why GM is getting rid of these great and convenient features in lieu of their own crappy “App Store” for the car. Remember a few years back when you had to pay over a hundred bucks to Ford to order an SD card with current road maps? Expect more of that monetized filth.
GM was never in my list of potential vehicles, but now it solidifies that. Loved my Ford with Carplay to bypass the crappy stock UI. Even though our Tesla doesn't have Carplay, I really miss it and will likely find a way to add it aftermarket, as the stock messaging and music apps are sad to say the least...
Remember the Ford resistance? This too will end badly for GM.
Wow, how misguided. As soon as CarPlay Ultra is available on a reasonably priced vehicle, it will be a requirement for me. The fact that they won't even support basic CarPlay is just crazy. Classic GM.
I'm not a big CarPlay Ultra fan. I think manufacturers should be investing into their host OS experience instead of just punting it to Apple. However, most are already just punting it to Google Android Automotive for the host OS at this juncture. So the boat has probably sailed on that idea.
I digress. I am a big fan that every car should support Android Auto and Apple CarPlay though. It is impossible for the manufacturers to keep up with the storefronts and innovation in the smartphone app stores. The goal should be for their host OS to integrate as deeply with the phone as possible but when all else fail give you an extended display to use apps on your phone.
I think car manufacturers are going to discover that Tesla and, to a much lesser extent, Rivian have found success in the industry in spite of their lack of Android Auto and Apple CarPlay support not because of it. They have succeeded due to the lumbering engineering efforts of traditional automotive manufacturers to make compelling battery electric vehicles. It is baffling that GM hasn't learned the lesson from seeing a rebadged GM product without the infotainment compromises outperforming all their other GM badged products on that platform. I'm sure some of it is that Honda is pricing these things to move with insane finance and lease incentives but I'm also confident that the availability of CarPlay has been a crucial cross-shopping factor.
I digress. I am a big fan that every car should support Android Auto and Apple CarPlay though. It is impossible for the manufacturers to keep up with the storefronts and innovation in the smartphone app stores. The goal should be for their host OS to integrate as deeply with the phone as possible but when all else fail give you an extended display to use apps on your phone.
I think car manufacturers are going to discover that Tesla and, to a much lesser extent, Rivian have found success in the industry in spite of their lack of Android Auto and Apple CarPlay support not because of it. They have succeeded due to the lumbering engineering efforts of traditional automotive manufacturers to make compelling battery electric vehicles. It is baffling that GM hasn't learned the lesson from seeing a rebadged GM product without the infotainment compromises outperforming all their other GM badged products on that platform. I'm sure some of it is that Honda is pricing these things to move with insane finance and lease incentives but I'm also confident that the availability of CarPlay has been a crucial cross-shopping factor.
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There is only one message GM - or any other automaker - will understand. And that is sent only by people when they don’t buy their vehicles. Telling them why one is not buying would be a help, too. Corporations can be obtuse. I personally have written off GM.
The Jobsian approach was removing features that were already on their way out, to make way for new technologies. Not removing features that are increasing in relevance practically on a daily basis as car makers prove just how bad they are at designing UIs and respecting customer privacy, to make way for additional marketing and data collection opportunities.