GM to Remove CarPlay from All Future Vehicles, Including Gas Cars [Updated]

[deeddawg]

Because then the car manufacturer is less incentivized to improve their own internal OS if the could just rely on CarPlay.

My logic is basically

If the Car OS sucks, then I want CarPlay
If the Car OS is good, then I don't care/need CarPlay

If GM is saying that they will get to the point where the OS is good, then that's fine and I don't care that much.

How about this scenario:

Car OS is good, but GM charges a monthly fee for services you get in CarPlay at no additional cost such as Waze/Maps or access to your music streaming service(s)?

 

[deeddawg]

If you have not noticed, car manufacturers have removed the HomeLink buttons in most new cars and now want you to "subscribe" to get integration with MyQ.

Which manufacturers are removing HomeLink? I've seen it on current Fords and Toyotas, though usually as part of a package.

But without CarPlay you are back to clipping a garage opener on your visor or paying their exorbitant subscription fee.

Or raise your watch and say "Open garage door"

 

[deeddawg]

lol I am using Macs and am deep in the Apple ecosystem and fandom since the late 90s but I cannot remember any uproar about Apple transitioning to SSD vs. hard drives. That's such a weird analogy. Was there ever a huge uproar I missed?
Rather the opposite, I feel it was an ongoing joke for how long Apple insisted on keeping some Macs in portfolio that used a mix of flash and hard disk storage to save costs.

The "uproar" (which it wasn't IMHO, outside of certain parts of MR) was Apple dropping optical drives. Not floppies, not spindle drives.

 

[roguegeek]

As car manufacturers start to see how much money they are leaving on the table, you're going to just see more and more of them make this move. All of them will eventually pull the trigger. It's not if. It's when. It's a great move for them, a bad move for Apple and CarPlay, and, unsurprisingly, a horrible move for consumers.

At some point, CarPlay will only exist in aftermarket solutions and niche applications. By then, due to commercial viability, I'm sure Apple will have stopped development already. CarPlay (and Android Auto) have 7-10 years of existence left.

 

[sloheim]

When shopping for a new car in 2018, I really wanted a Toyota Highlander. CarPlay had not made it into the Highlander yet, so I passed on the vehicle and bought a Subaru instead. I've bought 2 other Subarus since then.

GM will never get on my list if they never offer CarPlay.

 

[jbachandouris]

I drove a Chevy Trax with the new interface. Google is the one programming it NOT GM.

Update to the article says CarPlay and Android Auto will still be available for gas powered vehicles.

They do plan on transitioning away but not yet. Supposedly.

 

[nycgeo]

General Motors began phasing out support for CarPlay in its electric vehicles back in 2023, leading to complaints from iPhone users, but the company has no plans to back down.

In fact, GM is going further and plans to remove CarPlay from all future gas vehicles, too. In an interview with The Verge, GM CEO Mary Barra said that the company opted to prioritize its platform for EVs, but the change will eventually expand across the entire GM portfolio.

When asked if users should expect that new gas cars will not support "smartphone projection" for CarPlay or Android Auto, Barra said "I think that's the right expectation. Yes."

GM Chief Product Officer Sterling Anderson suggested that GM's decision to embrace its own system is a "very Jobsian approach to things" that he likened to phasing out the disk drive.

Anderson said that GM's in-house infotainment option offers a "much more immersive environment" and can "do so many more things" than CarPlay.

In EVs, General Motors transitioned to an infotainment system that it previously called "Ultifi." GM said that eliminating Apple CarPlay gave it access to direct integrations and information that it needed for its electric vehicle line, plus the company claimed that an in-house unified solution was the better option for consumers.

Starting with the 2028 Cadillac Escalade IQ, GM is rolling out a centralized vehicle computing system that it says will overhaul how GM vehicles are built and how they can be updated over time. GM will share software across its portfolio, including all electric and gas-powered vehicles produced by its GMC, Chevrolet, Buick, and Cadillac brands.

Update: In a statement to MacRumors, a GM spokesperson said that CarPlay and Android Auto will still be available in gas-powered vehicles for the "foreseeable future," but confirmed that GM will eventually move to a more deeply integrated experience.





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CarPlay is my one non-negotiable in any car purchase. Along with adaptive cruise control, its the best feature thats been added to cars since I started driving.

Another non-negotiable is that the car cant be made by GM or Chrysler (Fiat/Stellantis or whatever ungodly crap)

 

[BC2009]

Which manufacturers are removing HomeLink? I've seen it on current Fords and Toyotas, though usually as part of a package.



Or raise your watch and say "Open garage door"

I know Tesla makes you pay extra to get garage integration. I think the new Nissans do not not have it and I know our new Mitsubishi Outlander PHEV does not have a HomeLink option. Also many new Hondas only have the cloud-based MyQ integration for garage openers (though some of their lineup does offer HomeLink).

It just seems like a trend in car manufacturers trying to figure out what they bill you for on a recurring basis (like when Ford changed the Mustang Mach-E 360-view camera feature to only operate if you had their subscription -- though they may have reversed course on that since there was a lot of backlash)

 

[jchurchill]

"Look, guys, flash storage really is the future."
I really doubt he said that. Flash storage wasn't even a thing until about 2002, 4+ years after iMac.

 

[jdawgnoonan]

I don't really get this logic....

If I buy a smart TV -- even if it had the best the smart TV OS (e.g.: tvOS + built-in Xbox), I would *still* want HDMI ports to hook up something else (e.g.: Playstation or Switch or even a nice digital camera). Just because the built-in stuff is good does not mean its okay to be prevented from doing anything beyond what is built-in -- especially for the amount of money one spends on a new car.

Exactly. I have a smart tv because what else is there? But, I do not use the Samsung store apps and do not even care if they are good. I use an external streaming box that I can upgrade at any time without a TV (and that does not force ads like most TVs will do).

 

[jdawgnoonan]

I simply have no interest in my car being a device.

 

[Takeo]

You’re not removing a single feature like disc drive… you’re throwing my entire digital life and all it’s devices in the trash when I drive and forcing me to use a Vic-20.