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Started using Spark this last week. I wanted something I could use on both my iPhone and my Mac. Has been great!
Never considered gmail because it doesn’t have a Mac app
 
Google has become such a useless company. Humongous amount of lazy overpaid engineers (I have several friends who work there) and they need 3 months for a small bugfix update. Best retirement job ever!
 
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I mean, we know Google apps would have egregious privacy policy. So why delay the inevitable?

While App Privacy and allowing users to preventing apps from using advertising identifier are great steps, I would like Apple to extend their efforts by:
  • Contacts. Like Photos, I should be able to specify which set of contacts app can access.
  • Calendar and Reminders. New add only permission. Most apps should not be able to read my existing calendar events.
  • Local Network: A separate setting to allow AirPlay while blocking other local network activities.
WE do, but the general public doesn't (or couldn't care less). My guess would be, since back then there was so much media attention on it with Facebook, they delayed it since now nobody is really talking about it anymore.
 
I have premium, it's not on my latest iOS build of YouTube.app.
This is a commonly held misconception.
I'm guessing they are confusing the fact that you can play YT in the background only if you have premium. But playing in the background is not the same as PIP by any stretch.
 
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It has been mentioned already, but just adding my observation to the fold that the toggle for dark mode has been removed. Even Google's documentation says to go to Settings > Themes and then choose Light/Dark/System Default. It seems to have been switched to use the system default no matter what now. I had dark mode enabled for iOS, but specifically disabled for Gmail and a couple others because I don't like the look. After I updated the app, Gmail switched to dark mode with no way to change it.
 
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It has been mentioned already, but just adding my observation to the fold that the toggle for dark mode has been removed. Even Google's documentation says to go to Settings > Themes and then choose Light/Dark/System Default. It seems to have been switched to use the system default no matter what now. I had dark mode enabled for iOS, but specifically disabled for Gmail and a couple others because I don't like the look. After I updated the app, Gmail switched to dark mode with no way to change it.
yeah this is no good.
 
Which court will be the one forcing Apple to create privacy info cards for their own apps? This will be great.
As far as I can tell, every one of Apple's apps already have privacy cards in one form or another... They've added App Store entries for many of the built-in apps that can't otherwise be removed, like Find My, Activity, and Watch, which also include privacy cards, while a handful of other core apps like Photos, Safari, Messages, and Phone that don't have App Store pages are covered on Apple's website.
 
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Gmail switched to dark mode with no way to change it.
Yeah, this is a new feature - Keep You In The Dark Mode. :cool:

"You don't need to know what we are doing, just keep using the app. Move along, move along, nothing to see here."
 
I just forward all of my e-mails to the Chinese government directly just to save time.
Except Google is banned in China :rolleyes:

And to compare Google collection user data to an oppressive regime that kills its own citizens who do not comply or different religions, that is really just vile.
 
Which court will be the one forcing Apple to create privacy info cards for their own apps? This will be great.
They do? Go search ANY Apple app on the App Store. They all have the info if recently updated.


Yes. ROUGH location (the privacy card even says rough) using your IP to verify that you are in fact you logging into your account. A security feature that my app like banking apps use. The app has no GPS permissions. That is why it pops are is this you in this city logging in- it uses your IP address.

And search history of your email searches. That is how it has your prior search terms if you want to go back and do the same search again.

This is the problem with Apple's cards. There is not enough detail to explain to people what is actually going on. Most people have no idea what rough location is for instance.

And since we live in the conspiracy theory era now, more needs to be explained.
They don’t need your location to know it’s you. They have your username and password for that. Easily tested by travelling somewhere and logging in. There is no security benefit from your location, rough or not. It’s purely for tracking for ulterior motives.
 
They do? Go search ANY Apple app on the App Store. They all have the info if recently updated.



They don’t need your location to know it’s you. They have your username and password for that. Easily tested by travelling somewhere and logging in. There is no security benefit from your location, rough or not. It’s purely for tracking for ulterior motives.
For Apple apps that is the conundrum. While they have these they do not reflect the interaction with the OS or its parts. Like all the other apps that have these in the App Store, they are general at best.

Wonder when Safari will get one? Oh wait... there is no Safari app in the App Store. ;)
 
They don’t need your location to know it’s you. They have your username and password for that. Easily tested by travelling somewhere and logging in. There is no security benefit from your location, rough or not. It’s purely for tracking for ulterior motives.
Except that the Gmail app doesn't track your location directly — at least not using iOS Location Services. It doesn't use location services at all.

I have to assume what they're referring to in the privacy disclosure is IP address based tracking, which of course technically every online service is doing by definition, since they kind of have to know your IP address in order for you to connect to it (unless of course you're using a VPN, in which case this is easily defeated and there's not much Google can do about it).

Of course, sites that don't do anything more than log your IP address aren't using your location, but Google most definitely does tie it to your very rough location — in the very least it's tracking what country you're in. If you log into your Gmail account from your web browser and click on the"Details" button in the bottom right corner, beside "Open in X other location(s)" you'll see a complete breakdown of everywhere else that you've logged into your Gmail account, with IP addresses and country names, including web sessions, third-party (IMAP/POP/SMTP) email clients, and other authorized applications. In other words, Google will be tracking the exact same "location information" even if you're using the Apple Mail app.

Google also definitely does use this for security purposes, but it likely won't care too much if you simply travel to another reasonable location. Try going to a different country however, and there's a good chance you could be flagged for unusual sign-in activity. Google explains all of this in a support document.
 
Wonder when Safari will get one? Oh wait... there is no Safari app in the App Store. ;)
You can find that one here: https://support.apple.com/HT211978

Apple has created web-based privacy cards for all of its apps that don't have App Store pages:
I do agree that they tend to be general, but for the most part, Apple's own apps have to follow the same privacy permission rules as third-party apps do. For example, Safari still has to ask for and be explicitly granted location services access.

It's an imperfect system, but to paraphrase the old saying, Apple has the worst privacy policies — except for all of the others.
 
You can find that one here: https://support.apple.com/HT211978

Apple has created web-based privacy cards for all of its apps that don't have App Store pages:
I do agree that they tend to be general, but for the most part, Apple's own apps have to follow the same privacy permission rules as third-party apps do. For example, Safari still has to ask for and be explicitly granted location services access.

It's an imperfect system, but to paraphrase the old saying, Apple has the worst privacy policies — except for all of the others.

Appreciate it. Wasn't aware those were there.
 
Yeah, to be fair I just pasted those in from this Apple support article: https://support.apple.com/HT211970

What's odd is that Apple has added some of its otaerwise-uninstallable apps to the App Store, like Find My, Watch, Wallet, and Home, so I don't know why they haven't just created App Store pages for all of them.

Was looking through in the app store and yes, appears very hit / miss.
 
I use gmail on my iPad Pro, iPhone and Mac Mini. Is this an automatic Update or do I need to go into Settings? How do I know if I am using the newest version?
 
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