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I used to have an iPhone until the 4 but got bored. I've been on Android ever since but more and more frequently i've had family wanting me to switch back. This past weekend i was bombarded by almost all family to get an iPhone again because they want to iMessage and more importantly FaceTime.
I guess my question is, how has iOS evolved? For the better or worse? I've been thinking of getting the 5SE. I'm tired of large phones.
 
iOS obviously continues to evolve and I'm content with the format and how it operates. In terms of comparing to Android OS, I feel it's far smoother and less laggy than Android. I have used both operating systems extensively. iOS is also very secure.

And I think you mean the SE, not the 5SE. The SE is a great iPhone with plenty of power and excellent battery life.
 
Let me chime in here for a second not to disrespect or argue with Relentless Power as I enjoy many of his/her posts.

When I hear people say iOS is less laggy than Android I want to freaking scream. I have a work issue Note 5, a 6S+, and I am on my second 7+. I have owned EVERY iPhone iteration since iPhone One.

Every.....and I mean EVERY iPhone I have owned has lagged, frozen up, paused, died, you name it. I have done more soft rests, hard resets, DFU's, restores as new, restored from back up than I care to think about. So many issues with iPhones I can't count them...The work issue Note 5 I have has NEVER ONCE skipped a beat for a nano second, not once, what few updates it has received have been amazingly smooth and completely bug free, polar opposite of iOS for me.

Why do I continue buying iPhones?....Because of iMessage and absolutely no other reason. The day a full blown genuine version of iMessage becomes available for Android is the day I bid Apple farewell.
 
Let me chime in here for a second not to disrespect or argue with Relentless Power as I enjoy many of his/her posts.

When I hear people say iOS is less laggy than Android I want to freaking scream. I have a work issue Note 5, a 6S+, and I am on my second 7+. I have owned EVERY iPhone iteration since iPhone One.

Every.....and I mean EVERY iPhone I have owned has lagged, frozen up, paused, died, you name it. I have done more soft rests, hard resets, DFU's, restores as new, restored from back up than I care to think about. So many issues with iPhones I can't count them...The work issue Note 5 I have has NEVER ONCE skipped a beat for a nano second, not once, what few updates it has received have been amazingly smooth and completely bug free, polar opposite of iOS for me.

Why do I continue buying iPhones?....Because of iMessage and absolutely no other reason. The day a full blown genuine version of iMessage becomes available for Android is the day I bid Apple farewell.
Hate to break it to ya, Low country, but it might be you. I've owned every non-S model since 2 and except the 7, and haven't had those problems.
 
Hate to break it to ya, Low country, but it might be you. I've owned every non-S model since 2 and except the 7, and haven't had those problems.
Ok....Must be the way I anally take care of my belongings, or the wapping 397 pictures, 11 videos, 0 songs, and 5 downloaded apps I have that have overwhelmed iOS on my devices. I didn't come here to argue with anyone and I SURE didn't come here to have people tell me its "me"!!
 
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Let me chime in here for a second not to disrespect or argue with Relentless Power as I enjoy many of his/her posts.

When I hear people say iOS is less laggy than Android I want to freaking scream. I have a work issue Note 5, a 6S+, and I am on my second 7+. I have owned EVERY iPhone iteration since iPhone One.

Every.....and I mean EVERY iPhone I have owned has lagged, frozen up, paused, died, you name it. I have done more soft rests, hard resets, DFU's, restores as new, restored from back up than I care to think about. So many issues with iPhones I can't count them...The work issue Note 5 I have has NEVER ONCE skipped a beat for a nano second, not once, what few updates it has received have been amazingly smooth and completely bug free, polar opposite of iOS for me.

Why do I continue buying iPhones?....Because of iMessage and absolutely no other reason. The day a full blown genuine version of iMessage becomes available for Android is the day I bid Apple farewell.


What's so cool about iMessage? Seriously, I'm curious. I see people say this a lot ...
 
I used to have an iPhone until the 4 but got bored. I've been on Android ever since but more and more frequently i've had family wanting me to switch back. This past weekend i was bombarded by almost all family to get an iPhone again because they want to iMessage and more importantly FaceTime.
I guess my question is, how has iOS evolved? For the better or worse? I've been thinking of getting the 5SE. I'm tired of large phones.
Ultimately, realistically speaking, it's down to you trying it for yourself and seeing how it works out for you.
 
Ok....Must be the way I anally take care of my belongings, or the wapping 397 pictures, 11 videos, 0 songs, and 5 downloaded apps I have that have overwhelmed iOS on my devices. I didn't come here to argue with anyone and I SURE didn't come here to have people tell me its "me"!!

Have you actually used a high end Android phone before? I don't think anyone can argue that iOS STILL works better and more smoothly especially over time. It's just a more polished OS overall.
 
I use to be only android and never liked iPhones. My s7 started lagging real bad and the battery was sh*t, had to be charged 3 times a day, I decided I'd try an iPhone and I love it I have the regular matte black 7, I really recommend you get the 7. It's such a great phone. The new home button is my favorite thing about it. The only thing I miss about my galaxy was the wireless charging but that's it.
 
Let me chime in here for a second not to disrespect or argue with Relentless Power as I enjoy many of his/her posts.

When I hear people say iOS is less laggy than Android I want to freaking scream. I have a work issue Note 5, a 6S+, and I am on my second 7+. I have owned EVERY iPhone iteration since iPhone One.

Every.....and I mean EVERY iPhone I have owned has lagged, frozen up, paused, died, you name it. I have done more soft rests, hard resets, DFU's, restores as new, restored from back up than I care to think about. So many issues with iPhones I can't count them...The work issue Note 5 I have has NEVER ONCE skipped a beat for a nano second, not once, what few updates it has received have been amazingly smooth and completely bug free, polar opposite of iOS for me.

Why do I continue buying iPhones?....Because of iMessage and absolutely no other reason. The day a full blown genuine version of iMessage becomes available for Android is the day I bid Apple farewell.

I've gotta agree with goatless, it's totally you.

I've owned almost half a dozen iPhones(3GS, 4s, 5s, 6+ and 7+). My wife switched from android and she's had four since then(4s, 5s, 6s and 7+). The rest of my family has had over half a dozen as well. They've all been relatively trouble free. We've also owned some android phones and they've also been trouble free.

If the average device was as bad as some folks make them out to be, nobody would be buying them. They just wouldn't be worth the hassle.

You've just got bad luck. Must suck.
 
I used to have an iPhone until the 4 but got bored. I've been on Android ever since but more and more frequently i've had family wanting me to switch back. This past weekend i was bombarded by almost all family to get an iPhone again because they want to iMessage and more importantly FaceTime.
I guess my question is, how has iOS evolved? For the better or worse? I've been thinking of getting the 5SE. I'm tired of large phones.
The SE is a great value for the price. Despite it being $400, it has a chip that's faster than Snapdragon 820, and it can record 4k video. All in a device that can be operated easily with one hand. It's quite amazing. You won't go wrong with the SE if it's your first iPhone on a budget.
 
I just left androids and got an SE and been very happy with it. Yes it's display is smaller but it is Avery capable phone and battery life is amazing. My last iPhone before this one was a 4s and the SE is much better for my needs.
 
I used to have an iPhone until the 4 but got bored. I've been on Android ever since but more and more frequently i've had family wanting me to switch back. This past weekend i was bombarded by almost all family to get an iPhone again because they want to iMessage and more importantly FaceTime.
I guess my question is, how has iOS evolved? For the better or worse? I've been thinking of getting the 5SE. I'm tired of large phones.
Rather than your family make you spend several hundred dollars on a new phone so they can instant message and video chat with you, maybe get them to download some free apps to do the same cross-platform.

There's Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, Allo/Duo, etc.
 
Rather than your family make you spend several hundred dollars on a new phone so they can instant message and video chat with you, maybe get them to download some free apps to do the same cross-platform.

There's Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, Allo/Duo, etc.

But that would require them (the Apple owners) to switch off iMessage which is the 'hard part' of the move.

Frankly, I'm a little surprised that he went with Android to start. Certainly showed gumption!
 
Rather than your family make you spend several hundred dollars on a new phone so they can instant message and video chat with you, maybe get them to download some free apps to do the same cross-platform.

There's Hangouts, Facebook Messenger, Allo/Duo, etc.
Power of majority. You go with what the majority uses. In OP's case, the majority of the family uses iMessage. It could be easier to just buy an iPhone instead of trying to convince (and teach) all your family members to use a new platform.
 
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But that would require them (the Apple owners) to switch off iMessage which is the 'hard part' of the move.

Frankly, I'm a little surprised that he went with Android to start. Certainly showed gumption!
They can use both. Frankly, expecting someone to pay a lot of money to make things a little more convenient for you when there are free alternatives is a bit selfish, IMO.

Power of majority. You go with what the majority uses. In OP's case, the majority of the family uses iMessage. It could be easier to just buy an iPhone instead of trying to convince (and teach) all your family members to use a new platform.
He doesn't have to convince them. He can continue to use texting, which is what I'm sure he already does. If they want to use the features iMessage offers with him, they can switch. I would never buy a phone I don't really want to make someone else's life a little easier.
 
They can use both. Frankly, expecting someone to pay a lot of money to make things a little more convenient for you when there are free alternatives is a bit selfish, IMO.

Ha...to convince all parties to use BOTH?

Hell, I wouldn't even do that!
 
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The SE is a great phone. However I would also consider and look at the iPhone 7. It's not that much larger but contains all the newest features, minus a couple the Plus has. If you are going to take the dive, I would at least consider the 7. Play with them both at the Apple Store. Perhaps put together a list of things important to you and try them on each device.

The color gamut and speed of the seven as well as the additional waterproofing, camera advances and 3D Touch and new home button are worth a feel. Also consider picking up an iPad power adapter, as it will truely speed up charge times if you have grown accustomed to that.

It never ceases to amaze me how some people have all kinds of issues with a brand of phone or operating system, while other people have a smooth and trouble free experience with the same brand and operating system. It is worthwhile to note that enthusiasts of this forum represent a small minority of phone users. The usefulness of praise or derision for a particular brand should be taken with a highly critical eye. Specific solutions to specific issues are the strength of this forum. Brand opinion, not so much.

Consider that if either brand of phone or operating system were truely lacking, millions of each would not be sold. Clearly both seem to work quite well for vast majority of consumers. You could try out iOS on new iPhone for a couple of weeks with option of returning it if you don't like it.

Have fun exploring and whatever you decide, it will be correct for you. Don't feel bullied in any direction by this forum. Good luck!
 
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Ok....Must be the way I anally take care of my belongings, or the wapping 397 pictures, 11 videos, 0 songs, and 5 downloaded apps I have that have overwhelmed iOS on my devices. I didn't come here to argue with anyone and I SURE didn't come here to have people tell me its "me"!!

No offence but I agree with the others. I do think it's you. I've owned an iPhone from every generation since the original and whilst they aren't perfect I have had very few issues with them. Whilst I've not used Android phones extensively I do know a number of people, friends, colleagues and family members, who own Android and I seem to hear a lot of complaints from them.
 
The SE is a great size. I prefer to do most of my ios on my Ipad Mini with cell data. But if I got a phone, it would be to have something even smaller use when hiking, running, or biking.

The ipad mini is pocketable in most of my pants, except my jeans. It has a bigger screen than the 7 plus, and is cheaper, even when you add in the cell data modem. Also, ipad mini uses data only plans, which are MUCH cheaper in my area. My wife pays $60 Can a month for unlimited calls etc. and 3 gig of data. My ipad mini plan, which is starts at $5 a month and ramps up to $40 for up to 5 gig data.

What about phone calls? Freetone, from the app store, handles my phone calls, voicemail, and texting to non apple phones.

So, if I got a phone, it would be SE 64 gig in grey, but for now, I'll stick with my ipad mini 128 gig with cell data.
 
Ok....Must be the way I anally take care of my belongings, or the wapping 397 pictures, 11 videos, 0 songs, and 5 downloaded apps I have that have overwhelmed iOS on my devices. I didn't come here to argue with anyone and I SURE didn't come here to have people tell me its "me"!!
It isn't you. Every phone will lag, stutter, force close apps, etc... IOS just makes it look a bit smoother than Android.
In fact, I still own an iphone 3G, 3GS, 4S, 5, 6S+ and now a 7+. I've been collecting them. They have all had their issues. Anyone that pretends otherwise, are simply not choosing to see the problems.

Android has grown to be on par with ios 99.9% of the time. It is that .1% of the time when a rogue app runs non-stop in the background heating the phone up or eating the battery, or when you type on the keyboard and have to wait 2 seconds for the letter to register that tends to p¡ss people on Android off over time.
 
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Having played around with the Samsung s7 edge I stilll think my iPhone 6s is a lot smoother and faster. I came from a Samsung galaxy s5 which ended up as a lagging mess. My iPhone never slows down after long term useage. The only thing android has got going for it is a lot more customisation.
 
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I've never felt bored with a smartphone. There's are way more websites to visit, shows to watch, games to play and content to create and consume than I have time for. It really is virtually unlimited.
 
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