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Here's another perspective on Nest & Apple vs. Google.

" Walter Isaacson, author of the biography Steve Jobs, said in a CNBC TV interview that Apple is now less innovative than Google, and that while securing the China Mobile agreement was a big deal, it was less important than Google’s acquisition of Nest."

So now CNBC is getting technology business insight from biographers? :rolleyes:

Anything to pump Google and dump Apple I suppose. Still the current narrative it appears.
 
Those posts? What are you honestly talking about?

I was seriously angry and still am. I just installed the damn thing back in August when I bought my first house and dropped $250 on it. I love using it—was a wonderful addition and saves lots of money. Our house is almost twice as big as our old duplex but we use much less energy. And when we were out of town for Christmas and an ice storm hit the area I was able to turn up the heat remotely to help save our pipes before the power goes out.

But now it's going to get tied into the whole Google ecosystem. What sucks about Nest (and also makes it great at the same time) is that you have to connect to their servers to operate your thermostat and they track your usage and know when you're typically away from your home. You know Google wants that data, and even more so the nanny state does so that they can tax you every time you get cold and need to turn up the thermostat and are therefore being "wasteful". They will probably also force you to sign up for Google+ to use the service and by default it will automatically post each adjustment to some damned social network. And all of this doesn't even scratch the surface of future home automation products and the type of data that they could gather.

This along with the whole net-neutrality ruling have me in a pissed off mood with regard to anything tech. I wish the whole internet was just dumb, fast, and incredibly secure pipes. I could run my own server outside of all of these companies and that server would handle all of the automation of my home, store all of my files, etc. I just want to install a software package and run it myself. I've already been mulling the idea of building my own Dropbox and web server. I just need a fast connection with an ISP that supports net neutrality. Maybe I'll buy a MacMiniColo! I just wish I could have it on my own property so I know when people are jacking with it.

I'll take your Nest off your hands.
 
So now CNBC is getting technology business insight from biographers? :rolleyes:

Anything to pump Google and dump Apple I suppose. Still the current narrative it appears.

What makes the story interesting to me is not the media outlet - but the source of the quote. You don't find it interesting that someone who wrote Jobs' bio and was a complete media whore about it (which I can't blame him for - but he was) is now speaking against Apple (in this case).

What do you think that means?
 
What makes the story interesting to me is not the media outlet - but the source of the quote. You don't find it interesting that someone who wrote Jobs' bio and was a complete media whore about it (which I can't blame him for - but he was) is now speaking against Apple (in this case).

What do you think that means?

It is a pretty big deal.
 
With all due respect: If Apple had purchased Nest It wouldnt use it to bomb me with Ads or Marketing or simply just sell out my Data . Period. Apple is very different from Google/Facebook whatever Personal Life & User Data Rippers

But again its just my opinion...Call me shallow if You wish but no thanks for Google or Facebook or any of those in my Private home & life

Regards

Google and Facebook for example feed and live on User data..they sell it they use it or they wipe their %&//% with it I dont know... But they use and live on your tags,keywords,surfing habits, whatever it seems they can put my hand on... With Nest now your living room temperature , living habits, when you are home when you are not all goes into the pot.

For some its an issue for some it is not..

I do not want a google world

Thats all
 
So now CNBC is getting technology business insight from biographers? :rolleyes:

Anything to pump Google and dump Apple I suppose. Still the current narrative it appears.

It's all about perspective. 2013 was a valuable yet wasted year when it comes to Apple demonstrating innovation. Even the layman can appreciate all that Google accomplished in the past year. It's a true but bitter pill for Apple lovers, denial helps them cope.
 
Still trying to grasp what has to do hacking into appliance to send spam with anything related whith what Google would do with Nest

The data streams are initially opened to communicate back to the mothership, but once established, they'll be "fair game" to all sorts of tracking and spam, authorized or not. Sure, initially it will be Google/Nest and LG doing the tracking, but it'll be too much of a honeypot for hackers and spammers to pass up, as evidenced by the link I provided above.

More to your point, KDarling is already looking forward to electric blanket ads as a result of keeping his thermostat settings turned down:

You mean, that if I kept my house extra cool during the winter, that a Google search response might include an ad for electric blankets, instead a random one for, say, baby food?

Perhaps he can explain the value proposition to you?
 
Perhaps he can explain the value proposition to you?


Perhaps he has nothing to explain because he is not the one that has posted that link

What it is clear is that your link has nothing to do with Nest or Google or what they can do. Well, perhaps you can try to explain the relation.
 
And then Fadell went on record about the future of Nest and privacy...

http://www.engadget.com/2014/01/20/nest-promises-that-privacy-changes-will-be-opt-in/#continued

And the chicken littles now say what?

Oh please. Google can decide to change this policy at any given moment. And will, when it benefits their business model. Do you honestly believe Google simply wanted to be in the thermostat business?

Better a chicken little than an ostrich with his head in the sand.
 
Oh please. Google can decide to change this policy at any given moment. And will, when it benefits their business model. Do you honestly believe Google simply wanted to be in the thermostat business?

Better a chicken little than an ostrich with his head in the sand.

You can choose to live in fear.

I prefer to base decisions and my opinions more on facts. And if those facts change, my opinion can change too.

There's a difference between that and putting my head in the sand. I don't expect any less from you though.
 
You can choose to live in fear.

I prefer to base decisions and my opinions more on facts. And if those facts change, my opinion can change too.

Google can do no wrong in your eyes, but the simple fact is they're a data-based advertising company. They don't make money on hardware. Hence a logical suspicion about their long term intentions with Nest.

Enjoy your Big Brother existence.
 
It's all about perspective. 2013 was a valuable yet wasted year when it comes to Apple demonstrating innovation. Even the layman can appreciate all that Google accomplished in the past year. It's a true but bitter pill for Apple lovers, denial helps them cope.

How fantastic is that Chrome OS? lol
 
Good thing I didn't buy it yet. :eek:
I don't want to see advertisement on my thermostat's display :mad:

That's not how it works. You won't see any ads on your thermostat. But if the Nests ever senses that there are more than 1 person in your bedroom while you are supposedly at work, you will see ads of divorce lawyers on your computer.



:p
 
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facepalm at outrage over google or any tech company tracking for ads or whatever they do but no being out in full protest at the US government tracking of everyone and everything
 
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