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Google is probably working on that. :eek:

Ha! :)

Perhaps they could ask Apple for advice. Remember the security goons they sent over to find their lost iPhone that time, pretending to be cops?

Not to mention their internal Worldwide Loyalty Team, otherwise known as the Apple Gestapo.

Funny how some people act all scared of Google, when they're not the really scary company.
 
facepalm at outrage over google or any tech company tracking for ads or whatever they do but no being out in full protest at the US government tracking of everyone and everything

So, in a thread that's about Google's acquisition of Nest, do you expect people to draft a reply like this?


"Oh my god, now Google will know my thermostat's temperature!

Oh, and I'm scared of NSA collecting my data too.

Oh and I'm also scared of Apple having my whole device backup on the iCloud too.

Oh and I'm also scared of Dropbox having my business excel spreadsheets too."
 
Funny how some people act all scared of Google, when they're not the really scary company.

Well, maybe people have grown a bit of skepticism over Google's "Don't to evil" mantra after reading Schmidt's hypocritical statements about privacy, or getting fed up over having Google+ Forced down their throats, or seeing how 'Google's Android is open' is becoming more and more wishful thinking.

Google' acquisition of Nest will improve Home Automation... Really? LOL?! I mean, *really*. :rolleyes:

Somebody thinks otherwise.

Now we have Google, the harmless, colorful, bunch of happy hipster 'Don't to evil'-geek gang, having their hands on military robots.

Meanwhile
Page and Sergey Brin, are involved in Singularity University, a think tank that believes humans and machines will at some point become one, making the stuff of science fiction — immortality — a reality.

Google appears less and less as the "do right company" to me. On a personal note, I find some of you and your believes here extremely naive. But to each his own.
 
That's not how it works. You won't see any ads on your thermostat. But if the Nests ever senses that there are more than 1 person in your bedroom while you are supposedly at work, you will see ads of divorce lawyers on your computer.



:p

See what I mean??? :D

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Ha! :)

Perhaps they could ask Apple for advice. Remember the security goons they sent over to find their lost iPhone that time, pretending to be cops?

Not to mention their internal Worldwide Loyalty Team, otherwise known as the Apple Gestapo.

Funny how some people act all scared of Google, when they're not the really scary company.

Well, Apple makes most of their profits from hardware, software and other digital content, and Ads.

Google on the other hand, their business is primarily data mining and collecting all kinds of information. Their Android OS serves as a great tool for data mining to them.

Does Apple care about user data? Perhaps yes, and just to a certain degree, but Google is all about user data...

Who would you rather trust?
 
See what I mean??? :D

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Well, Apple makes most of their profits from hardware, software and other digital content, and Ads.

Google on the other hand, their business is primarily data mining and collecting all kinds of information. Their Android OS serves as a great tool for data mining to them.

Does Apple care about user data? Perhaps yes, and just to a certain degree, but Google is all about user data...

Who would you rather trust?

as far as i can see quattro was at the time of its acquisition the third most expensive one in apples history. admob would have been their most expensive acquisition to date.

yet there is the head in the sand thinking here that just because apple isnt that successful in that market that they are arent that interested in it and the personal privacy of their users is more important. apples current place in the ad market isnt for lack of trying.

and what is with the irony of complaining about ads on a site like macrumors where there are quite a few ads?
 
Well, Apple makes most of their profits from hardware, software and other digital content, and Ads.

Google on the other hand, their business is primarily data mining and collecting all kinds of information. Their Android OS serves as a great tool for data mining to them.

Does Apple care about user data? Perhaps yes, and just to a certain degree, but Google is all about user data...

Who would you rather trust?

iAds was created to give iOS developers access to an ad revenue stream without having to go through Google to get it. Plain and simple.

Do I like ad-supported "free" apps? No, I tend to avoid them like the plague, I'd rather pay a few bucks for an ad-free version. But some developers feel the need to leverage that business model.
 
iAds was created to give iOS developers access to an ad revenue stream without having to go through Google to get it. Plain and simple.

Do I like ad-supported "free" apps? No, I tend to avoid them like the plague, I'd rather pay a few bucks for an ad-free version. But some developers feel the need to leverage that business model.

I don't mind Ads in apps if these are not intrusive. For example, there are some game apps that after you finish a level, and Ad suddenly pops up and you endup tapping on it by accident; basically you are being tricked to tap on it, so the developer makes some $$$. That doesn't sound like fair game to me, so I would delete the app immediately.

The problem many see with Google is that they are all about collecting personal user data, which could be used for good or bad depending who gets it. And this kind of data goes beyond the data needed for targeted advertising.
 
How much involvement did he have with the iPhone? Especially once it was decided it would run OSX? According to John Gruber Fadell had little to do with the iPhone and the iPhone team was responsible for the iPod touch, not the iPod team. Source:http://daringfireball.net/2008/11/executive_scuttlebutt

Some of the media spin is that Google wanted Fadell for his design saavy yet the sleek design of the Nest thermostat and smoke detector was done by a 3rd party - Bould design. Below are screen shots from their website.

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If you watch any Tony Fadell interview, you will hear him talk about his experience building the first three iPhones. Unless he's lying.


Its not just his design savy, it's the entire Apple DNA and Philosophy on user experience, marketing, packaging, engineering, manufacturing, distribution, customer service, software, design, etc. He hired tons of Apple employees who had experience in all of those fields. And it all just spilled over into Google.

And in no way shape or form does hiring a 3rd party design firm diminish ones credibility or ability to be 'design savvy'. At Tonys level, he's hiring a firm for a specific designer. Hartmund Eslinger, Johnny Ive, and many more 3rd party designers were hired by Apple throughout its history.
 
They didn't were dismissed, they were outbided

then it makes their outrage on the matter even more absurd

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They weren't actually dismissed, the auctioneers thought they were joking and had a hard time taking the bids seriously. It's probably one of the worst examples of engineers who think they're funny having their jokes completely lost on "regular people".

if you were running the auction, i don't think you would appreciate having to calculate the value of each bid they put up as part of a mathematical expression
 
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