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Who facts checks the fact checkers?
There was an unprecedented case of fact checking during a somewhat recent presidential debate where a moderator decided to become a fact checker and corrected one of the candidates. Up until that point, that candidate was clearly winning the debate, and having the moderator fact check his/her facts totally threw the person off their game.

The thing is, the candidate was correct in their statement, and the moderator was wrong. Whether it was deliberate or a mistake is not clear, but the result of the misinformation may have swayed some votes.

So, who will fact check the fact checkers? How could bias be eliminated from the fact checking?

I am afraid that this is just another way of manipulating data to further control the information that people are presented with.

An anecdotal and skewed telling of one story does not justify ignoring the absolute fact that lies, misinformation and purposeful manipulation of semi-truths have become ubiquitous in social media, and the Republican Administration. Pretending there is some balance because one can point to "that one time" it happened the other way only causes me to roll my eyes at someone as either a conspiratist, an alt-right troll, or one who is not willing or able to judge facts versus emotionally satisfying drivel.

We can all agree, I assume, that there is danger in letting Facebook/Google arbitrate "truth". That is explicitly NOT what they are doing here. They are trying to provide tools so at least some critical thinkers won't be tricked by 'verifiably' false information. For instance - the Bowling Green massacre. How can that possibly be a bad thing?
 
Who facts checks the fact checkers?
There was an unprecedented case of fact checking during a somewhat recent presidential debate where a moderator decided to become a fact checker and corrected one of the candidates. Up until that point, that candidate was clearly winning the debate, and having the moderator fact check his/her facts totally threw the person off their game.

The thing is, the candidate was correct in their statement, and the moderator was wrong. Whether it was deliberate or a mistake is not clear, but the result of the misinformation may have swayed some votes.

So, who will fact check the fact checkers? How could bias be eliminated from the fact checking?

I am afraid that this is just another way of manipulating data to further control the information that people are presented with.

When was this? What?

If you seriously want to know and can’t find it in a search I can PM you.

I was deliberately vague in my description of the incident to get my point across. If I named the parties involved, the political party victim of the incident will become the focal point of the post. People that do not share the political beliefs with the victim may just dismiss the story based off of their biases, and the people that like that party could like the post just because they identify with those politics and not on the merit of the story.

My political beliefs are right down the middle of the political spectrum, so when discussing politics I am constantly on the defense with both parties. Although I do believe that one political party tends to be negatively focused on by the news media, while the other party tends to get a free pass.

Similarly, on the MR forums I regularly get replied to my posts, being labeled as both an “Apple Hater/basher”, and an “Apple fanboy/defender”. Once this happened in the same thread.

Anyways, that was why I was vague in my description.
 
For instance - the Bowling Green massacre. How can that possibly be a bad thing?

Im sure this will be bipartisan and totally neutral, just like these stories from respected news outlets were called out as being fake:

Early November: Spike in Transgender Suicide Rates
November 22: The Tri-State Election Hacking Conspiracy Theory
December 1: The 27-Cent Foreclosure
January 20: Nancy Sinatra’s Complaints about the Inaugural Ball
January 20: The Nonexistent Climate Change Website ‘Purge’
January 20: The Great MLK Jr. Bust Controversy
January 20: Betsy DeVos, Grizzly Fighter
January 26: The ‘Resignations’ At the State Department
January 27: The Photoshopped Hands Affair
January 29: The Reuters Account Hoax
January 31: The White House-SCOTUS Twitter Mistake
January 31: The Big Travel Ban Lie
February 1: POTUS Threatens to Invade Mexico
February 2: Easing the Russian Sanctions
February 2: Renaming Black History Month
February 2: The House of Representatives’ Gun Control Measures

http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/
 
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In general and obviously for news.
One has to be a complete idiot to rely on 'facebook' for news.

Well there are impressions, stories come up in the facebook feed all the time and go viral. Then there is the trending news on the right column. There are people who get their news without knowing they're getting the "news".

Twitter is fun for trends and breaking news and "word on the street" type stuff. 24 hour news cycle programs like FNC, CNN, MSNBC are just propaganda channels where you go to hear what you want to hear. I try to scan everything and see if I can read between the lines as it were. If I'm good at it is another discussion.
 
“Who controls the past controls the future. Who controls the present controls the past.”

“War is peace. Freedom is slavery. Ignorance is strength.”

“If you want a picture of the future, imagine a boot stamping on a human face—for ever.”

George Orwell, 1984
Trump did another great service for mankind once again: He resurrected interest in 1984

Only problem is that the regressives think it's instructions ...
 
Well there are impressions, stories come up in the facebook feed all the time and go viral. Then there is the trending news on the right column. There are people who get their news without knowing they're getting the "news".

Twitter is fun for trends and breaking news and "word on the street" type stuff. 24 hour news cycle programs like FNC, CNN, MSNBC are just propaganda channels where you go to hear what you want to hear. I try to scan everything and see if I can read between the lines as it were. If I'm good at it is another discussion.
I've never met a person worth meeting who uses facebook - for anything ...
It's a moron-service for a generation of insane morons.
 
An anecdotal and skewed telling of one story does not justify ignoring the absolute fact that lies, misinformation and purposeful manipulation of semi-truths have become ubiquitous in social media, and the Republican Administration. Pretending there is some balance because one can point to "that one time" it happened the other way only causes me to roll my eyes at someone as either a conspiratist, an alt-right troll, or one who is not willing or able to judge facts versus emotionally satisfying drivel.

We can all agree, I assume, that there is danger in letting Facebook/Google arbitrate "truth". That is explicitly NOT what they are doing here. They are trying to provide tools so at least some critical thinkers won't be tricked by 'verifiably' false information. For instance - the Bowling Green massacre. How can that possibly be a bad thing?
You are right, one story of an event might be anecdotal, but how many stories need to be posted before questioning the bias of the so-called fact checkers?

I am not saying there shouldn't be fact checking, I am just saying that when you have a source of information as big as Google telling people what is the truth, there could be issues with bias.
 
Im sure this will be bipartisan and totally neutral, just like these stories from respected news outlets were called out as being fake:



http://thefederalist.com/2017/02/06/16-fake-news-stories-reporters-have-run-since-trump-won/

Surely, it will be great to crack down on all click bait and misinformation from all sides, and I bet you can find a lot all over. The list from Brietbart and infowars dwarfs your above list FOR TODAY ALONE, but as others point out elsewhere, let's just agree it's nonpartisan and bad everywhere. Hold everyone to journalistic and ethical standards above where they are even now. Block all sites who repeatedly and purposefully spread lies without retraction. I enthusiastically endorse the idea that ALL websites who repeatedly post false news without retraction should be blocked by mainstream news amalgamation. We're all happy now, right?

I bet not. Now it's a conspiracy of the elite liberal media establishment, right? Infowars ISN'T actually a cesspool of lies and hatred, it's just the enemy of the powerful?

There will always be crackpots spouting nonsense in some dark corner of the internet. I'm worried about the big stuff said by people who matter - like the president of the united states or his direct spokespeople. The Bowling Green massacre is not just bad for it's insanity, but for who, how and why it was said.
 

This is basically people on a large scale. The group becomes a different organism altogether and is overall more impulsive than the individual and easily manipulated mostly unaware of its full potential.

Imagine every bird with a screen in front of them telling them what to think!
 
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If you seriously want to know and can’t find it in a search I can PM you.

I was deliberately vague in my description of the incident to get my point across. If I named the parties involved, the political party victim of the incident will become the focal point of the post. People that do not share the political beliefs with the victim may just dismiss the story based off of their biases, and the people that like that party could like the post just because they identify with those politics and not on the merit of the story.

My political beliefs are right down the middle of the political spectrum, so when discussing politics I am constantly on the defense with both parties. Although I do believe that one political party tends to be negatively focused on by the news media, while the other party tends to get a free pass.

Similarly, on the MR forums I regularly get replied to my posts, being labeled as both an “Apple Hater/basher”, and an “Apple fanboy/defender”. Once this happened in the same thread.

Anyways, that was why I was vague in my description.

I think I know the event you are insinuating to. Was it when Trump claimed he did not support the war in Iraq and Lester Holt brought that a 2002 interview shows otherwise? Because if so, I disagree with your assessment that "the moderator was wrong."

In any case, apparently this forum frowns down on being coy and not providing a citation when asked. I was recently suspended for a few days for not providing a citation when asked.
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I've never met a person worth meeting who uses facebook - for anything ...
It's a moron-service for a generation of insane morons.

This says a lot about our tweeting idiot president as well.
 
Oh great, now I feel safe. Now I can make sure I have all the unbiased left leaning news delivered right to my phone.
Correct. We need more unbiased left-leaning news in everyone's feed, instead of the biased right-wing news.

Remember, the right-wing is the one that lies, since they do not have rational facts to back them. That is why they love guns so much - they have to kill instead of being convincing.
 
When was this? What?
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WHY MOM WHY?!?!?!

I swear, if my dog isn't now living at a farm upstate running through lush green fields being happy playing with cows, I'm going to be super pissed.

Yeah i know... ours was named Skippy... he was a door prize from a bank when one of the bros had the winning ticket and claimed him (slightly embarrasing from the outset since our grandpa worked at the bank and the prize rules didn't disqualify relatives from winning, oy vey).

Anyway the cute pup turned into a neurotic collie longing to work at something besides wearing a path from the chainlink fence's gate by the driveway around the barn to the other gate by the trashcans. Off to the shelter he went when the bro was at camp one time. We didn't get the fake news treatment though, we were too old for that gig. What the parents got from that moment forward though was payback: fifty years of lecture about being too cowardly to tell the truth in timely fashion and permit alternate arrangements to be explored. We never did find out if the dog was euthanized or adopted. I guess shelters are used to little kids' voices asking about whatever happened to Skippy, because they would not discuss whether a Skippy had been brought there or what happened to him.

All those dogs and kitties who crossed the rainbow bridge that way are waiting for us on the other side. And I think they know who their friends are. All others get "fake news" etched into their jeans pockets upon arrival.
 
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