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Just as long as you keep in mind that this tablet is half the price of the iPad 2, when you make those judgements. You can't expect it to meet or exceed Apple's standards and also still cost half the price, or you're intentionally setting up the product to fail in your mind.

Price is not an issue for me in this case, as I said before. But clearly, it is for you. In this situation consider value instead. If the Nexus (or any) tablet does not meet the criteria I specified, then its value is 0, regardless of price.

I believe that this is a significant difference between the typical Apple customer and those who complain about their prices. An Apple customer sees the value in how Apple (or any company, really) implements their ideas (in hardware and software) and makes the purchasing decision based on that, not on actual price alone. In this case, I define "value" as price x features. They must be considered together.

As such, they (like myself) rather save up to purchase an Apple product than to save money to get something that is cheaper, but does the same thing, just not as well.

So, yes, I must expect it to meet or exceed Apple's standards, because to me it's not worth it if it doesn't.
 
While "some guy" did not necessarily read his email, a service running on the google emails dod "scan" or "read" the email looking for keywords. That is a violation of privacy and most people would assume that you would at least not have code running looking for keywords in your emails.

An iAd is different. It is not based your activity in the app but rather the app itself which you make a conscious choice to download and then run.

Its actually not a violation of privacy.

Take Facebook. Facebook serves up ads based on your likes, interests, post content, etc.

Yahoo Mail serves up ads exactly the same was as Gmail, as does Hotmail - both were doing this years before Gmail existed.

Explain to me the actual violation here. What are you loosing by having these ads personalised? Are you less well off because of it? No. Its a way of paying for a service. If you aren't happy paying via ads, then go with a paid mail service.

Or just use POP3/SMTP and you'll never have to see an advert. OR just do what 99% of gmail users do - dont let something as pathetic as a bit of text ruin your life.
 
But the Fire just got extinguished.

;)

I really don't think so. That is, assuming that the Fire2 is around the corner. I could see Amazon releasing something similar to the Nexus at a lower price. Perhaps keeping the original fire around at a heavy discount with ads.
 
Here's the problem. Yeah, yeah Google released their own tablet, but how many apps will be able to support the tablet?

It's all about apps/OS, not the hardware.

Generally older apps will work fine on it. Its the new ones that'll have to support it. However as long as they support the likes of the galaxy tab range it'll work fine.
 
Here's the problem. Yeah, yeah Google released their own tablet, but how many apps will be able to support the tablet?

It's all about apps/OS, not the hardware.

Huh? Isn't Android based? It will have access to the entire Android app market, right?
 
Still don't get what the glass is about, hopefully the dev community can find out?

Glass is undescribably awesome. Seriously, it really is a whole new monster. Imagine a HUD while you walk around, with a camera built in so you can look at something and it takes a photo.

Its clearly still under heavy development, but its looking awesome.

Take a look at this as it gives a small insight: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/sergey-brin-demos-project-glass-on-stage-at-google-i-o/

Here's the concept video from a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6W4CCU9M4
 
With the Q being made in the USA and having a small 25 watt amp, the costs are probably a wash compared to the Touch. And it's cheaper than the Transporter SE. ;)

The nexus q just seems so similar to the apple hifi sans speakers. If this was going to compete the selling point shouldn't he the 25 watt amp, like the apple hifi the sound should be the selling point so I think at that price speakers should have been included, especially if a social playlist is the selling point. I don't see made in USA as a great selling point either as google isn't associated with luxury products.
 
Tell me if the video in the link doesn't look like video from Apple. Copy much???

Apple invented going up on stage to talk about things. Everyone knows this. They even have a patent for it. Way to copy, Google! LOL FAIL! You're going to jail!

Okay, making fun of people for obviously wrong and dumb opinions aside, I think it's a pretty snazzy little device. Asus made, almost ridiculously low priced, yet still a sturdy, quality product. Even though I have a constantly used iPad lying around, I'm tempted to pick one up.

Not impressed. The Kindle certainly seems like a better value for the size, and a 16GB Refurb iPad 2 can be easily had on BestBuy.com for $299

Hardwarewise, the nexus trumps both the Fire, and the furb iPad 2 for the exact same price. Why would anyone consider a previously used repaired iPad and the weaker, comparatively limited Kindle Fire a better buy for the same price?
 
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Glass is undescribably awesome. Seriously, it really is a whole new monster. Imagine a HUD while you walk around, with a camera built in so you can look at something and it takes a photo.

Its clearly still under heavy development, but its looking awesome.

Take a look at this as it gives a small insight: http://www.engadget.com/2012/06/27/sergey-brin-demos-project-glass-on-stage-at-google-i-o/

Here's the concept video from a while back: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9c6W4CCU9M4

I understand how neat glass is but I think the real question is how's the device realistically working? I mean if the glasses are the only device you have to carry for the experience to work that would be amazing, however I do not believe this to the the case.
I think that at best the glasses relay the information from an android phone via NFC meaning the glasses would be a supplementary device to the phone. If thats the case why wear the classes instead of pulling out your phone.
I dont mean to be so down on google but their products must be looked realistically and if the glasses only supplement the phone experience what's the selling point. Wont these end up like bluetooth headsets?
 
Hardwarewise, the nexus trumps both the Fire, and the furb iPad 2 for the exact same price. Why would anyone consider a previously used, and repaired iPad and the weaker, comparatively limited Kindle Fire a better buy for the same price?

Can you explain to me why this trumps the ipad 2? It isn't obvious to me, in fact I think they are pretty comperable.
 
Gotta love MacRumors, the sure sign that apple fanboys feel threatened is when they decide to bash the opposition continuously. By the way this thread is going, apple fanboys are threatened. Similar to how the Surface thread went.

Don't even try to deny it.
 
Not impressed. The Kindle certainly seems like a better value for the size, and a 16GB Refurb iPad 2 can be easily had on BestBuy.com for $299

This is for power users. The kindle fire sucks for the same reason the ipad sucks, in the eyes of people who like to tinker and configue - you're basically using a glorified app launcher that is loosely called an OS.

This will give you the raw Android OS, with all of its customizeability and cooperative, cross-app functionality. I mean come on, the desire for one of these can be driven by something as simple as wanting to install a software keyboard of your choice.

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Can you explain to me why this trumps the ipad 2? It isn't obvious to me, in fact I think they are pretty comperable.

When he says "hardware-wise" I'm pretty sure he's referring to the processing power. On that note, he's correct in giving the advantage to the quad core Tegra chip.
 
1. Not enough local storage. Even if expandable you need more so you don't need to expand. Don't always expect online/cloud to be available.

2. Battery Life?

Though I like price tag, it comes at the expense of storage size. 16 GB is ridiculously small !!
I need 256 GB, best case even more, where and when could we get descent memory size ?! :/
 
This is for power users. The kindle fire sucks for the same reason the ipad sucks, in the eyes of people who like to tinker and configue - you're basically using a glorified app launcher that is loosely called an OS.

This will give you the raw Android OS, with all of its customizeability and cooperative, cross-app functionality. I mean come on, the desire for one of these can be driven by something as simple as wanting to install a software keyboard of your choice..

still no flash though?

As for your second point, smaller screen, no cellular and shorter battery life still make the ipad 2 a good competitor hardware wise, I'd say
 
I understand how neat glass is but I think the real question is how's the device realistically working? I mean if the glasses are the only device you have to carry for the experience to work that would be amazing, however I do not believe this to the the case.
I think that at best the glasses relay the information from an android phone via NFC meaning the glasses would be a supplementary device to the phone. If thats the case why wear the classes instead of pulling out your phone.
I dont mean to be so down on google but their products must be looked realistically and if the glasses only supplement the phone experience what's the selling point. Wont these end up like bluetooth headsets?

I think it is neat too, but I am not sure glass itself would every really take off. I think it has some potential as a starting point. It is actually the first original thing Google has done, we should give them some credit. It is hard to go out on take the risk on an entirely new type of product.
 
Good for you. Care to share a logical reason for your somewhat childish view other than "they know I went shopping last thursday because they recorded my location"?

What is it with you Britt's and Apple? Not being very Cheeky.
It's like Apple is a Bespoken Enemy?

Blimey, I'd say you were going to drop a Biggie over it Old Boy. ;)
 
Here's the problem. Yeah, yeah Google released their own tablet, but how many apps will be able to support the tablet?

It's all about apps/OS, not the hardware.

AAPL is no more no less than an hardware selling company...
iOS is just an anecdote to well serve the previous described purpose!
 
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