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Yes. I hope they can do it without needing 2 separate OSs on the the stereo.

It doesn't require a separate OS to run Carplay or Android Auto. It just requires specific runtimes. The cars will already include the manufacturers crappy UI. There are several manufacturers that are on both lists for CarPlay and Android and I see no reason why those companies won't support both in their cars.
 
Luxury cars will roll with Apple due to its premium brand. Cheap cars like Scion will roll with Android due to their similarity and reputation of being a peasantry brand.

Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Suzuki, Chevy, Ford, Nissan, Toyota (which might include Scion) and Mitsubishi are some of the so called cheap cars that Apple lists as future partners on CarPlay.

Meanwhile, Android Auto lists Infiniti, Acura, Bentley, Audi, Maserati and Volvo as future partners. If none of those brands are luxury, then I don't know what is.

Next time you make such a pretentious statement, at least make sure it's factually correct.
 
Microsoft and Android fans

This is for MS and Android fans:
it's all good just don't say that no one copies apple ideas that it was already out there
I'm glad that "all competitors" follow apple's pad and compete each other and Apple still ahead
 
Imagine a GM car with Android and Nvidia.

Crashes, lags and catches fire.

People just can't admit when the competition shows better products compared to Apple.
And surprising people are still buying GM's with all the recalls every other week.
 
Hmmm well it would be better than having every other stock interface. Car infotainment systems are pretty slow and out dated.

It would be nice if cars released had both ios and android pre installed amd you choose which you want to use.

All I need is Bluetooth. Don't care about having an OS, Apple or Android, in my vehicle. It will just be another way for the dealer to rip you off for the "premium" sound system with Apple/Android integrated.
 
This is for MS and Android fans:
it's all good just don't say that no one copies apple ideas that it was already out there
I'm glad that "all competitors" follow apple's pad and compete each other and Apple still ahead

How is Apple ahead in the tablet market when Android owns just over 60% of the market? Apple has no lead in any market; not phones, not tablets and not computers. Google just does more in a shorter period of time.
Que up the folks that say iPhone is the top selling phone.
 
Honda, Hyundai, Kia, Suzuki, Chevy, Ford, Nissan, Toyota (which might include Scion) and Mitsubishi are some of the so called cheap cars that Apple lists as future partners on CarPlay.

Meanwhile, Android Auto lists Infiniti, Acura, Bentley, Audi, Maserati and Volvo as future partners. If none of those brands are luxury, then I don't know what is.

Next time you make such a pretentious statement, at least make sure it's factually correct.

Both will ultimately be featured on virtually all brands. I wouldn't worry too much about the ridiculous claims someone tries to make.

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How is Apple ahead in the tablet market when Android owns just over 60% of the market? Apple has no lead in any market; not phones, not tablets and not computers. Google just does more in a shorter period of time.
Que up the folks that say iPhone is the top selling phone.

Apple leads in tablet browser usage and tablet app ecosystem. Both far more important things than than how many junk $100 tablets have sold and how many tablets Samsung has given away with their TV's. Apple's never been fighting this market share battle that everyone seems to think is really important...

PS: The iPhone 5s is the best selling phone model.

PPS:Google doesn't make phones or tablets, or computers (other than the Pixel and contracted out Nexus devices), they just provide the OS and services. That's not doing more, that's operating under a different business model.
 
Both will ultimately be featured on virtually all brands. I wouldn't worry too much about the ridiculous claims someone tries to make.

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Apple leads in tablet browser usage and tablet app ecosystem. Both far more important things than than how many junk $100 tablets have sold and how many tablets Samsung has given away with their TV's. Apple's never been fighting this market share battle that everyone seems to think is really important...

PS: The iPhone 5s is the best selling phone model.

PPS:Google doesn't make phones or tablets, or computers (other than the Pixel and contracted out Nexus devices), they just provide the OS and services. That's not doing more, that's operating under a different business model.

According to the IDC Android is expected to have 80% smartphone market share before year end. I'm not sure if the iPhone 5s is still the best selling model but even if it is not it just show's you how many Android devices there are out there.
 
I would not buy a vehicle with an Apple OS in it. I just want a plain car with an AUX port. I think all this tech reliance these days what with the iWatches and Carplays is so ridiculous :)

Why a car? Horses are better transportations.

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How is Apple ahead in the tablet market when Android owns just over 60% of the market? Apple has no lead in any market; not phones, not tablets and not computers. Google just does more in a shorter period of time.
Que up the folks that say iPhone is the top selling phone.

Are you joking? Android is popular because it runs on everything, more than hanfl Android users don't even know what is an operating system, believe me i work in a shop. Android tablet are a joke, everything in on iPad.
 
So in your book, difference is better?

I asked you to show me why it's better function wise, not look. Have you seen the speed that CarPlay is operating? It's instant response and there's a big lag in google demo.

Don’t read too much in to the lag. Have you heard about how much of a dog the original iPhone was, even up to the point of the keynote in which it was released. Steve Jobs covered its failings really well. So well you didn’t notice them.

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All I need is Bluetooth. ………...
Got I hate it. There should be a standard across vehicle that is adopted worldwide and ratified. That way I don’t need bluetooth on in my car. I plug in and voice/data and anything else are hooked into the car.
I don’t get crappy warnings about this device not being compatible with iPhone.
 
According to the IDC Android is expected to have 80% smartphone market share before year end. I'm not sure if the iPhone 5s is still the best selling model but even if it is not it just show's you how many Android devices there are out there.

Smartphones are just a segment of the mobile phone market. Feature phones are becoming low end Android phones (hence the gains in smartphone share), but Apple's share of mobile phones is still growing. I don't think they care how many low end android phones are sold. It doesn't impact their sales (other than providing potential switchers) or the strength of the app ecosystem. Android's growing at the high end too, don't get me wrong, but much of the growth is definitely on the low end.

When the iPhone launched, Apple didn't even care about smartphone market share. Their long term goal was something like 5% of the mobile phone market. For one company, that is huge. Since they are now at more than 10% in mobile phone share, I imagine they are quite pleased.

Smartphone share is not that important of a metric as people seem to think (again mobile matters). The size of the smartphone market is growing dramatically year over year, so comparing percentages from year to year is pointless. Sure Androids gobbling up a ton of low end feature phone converters, but what happens when that stops? Either due to running out of feature phone users to convert, or WP8 gaining more traction. Where does the new growth happen? Apple's been converting a lot of those low end Android users to iPhone users, so I don't think they are too worried about their long term growth prospects.

Looking at smartphone share alone is like walking through the woods at night with a flashlight. There's a lot you don't see. Apple's goal isn't to beat the 100s of Android manufacturers out there in sales volume, like everyone seems to think. How on Earth would that be a reasonable goal? Production and licencing are two very different business models. Android needs the massive market share, not Apple. Apple's business model isn't like that, and never was. They just want to make the best phones they can and sell a lot of them, and yes, as far as phone models go, the 5s is the top selling phone out there.
 
What I see is an OEM or dealership option to swap out CarPlay or this Android knock off by reprogramming the center stack entertainment option as needed.

My guess is you will see a trend of Android Auto in the lower end units, less trendy unuts while CarPlay is in the trendy and higher end units. Thus, it will follow the consumer trend of smartphone. Cheap users that do not buy aftermarket will go Andriod while people with money goes CarPlay.

This post is wrong and stupid on so many levels... do you really believe that Apple -> money crap? Wake up, it's not 2011 anymore, there are pretty nice and highend android smartphones on the market. And believe it or not, other countries than apple-fanboy-county (us) exist. ;-)
 
Smartphones are just a segment of the mobile phone market. Feature phones are becoming low end Android phones (hence the gains in smartphone share), but Apple's share of mobile phones is still growing. I don't think they care how many low end android phones are sold. It doesn't impact their sales (other than providing potential switchers) or the strength of the app ecosystem. Android's growing at the high end too, don't get me wrong, but much of the growth is definitely on the low end.

When the iPhone launched, Apple didn't even care about smartphone market share. Their long term goal was something like 5% of the mobile phone market. For one company, that is huge. Since they are now at more than 10% in mobile phone share, I imagine they are quite pleased.

Smartphone share is not that important of a metric as people seem to think (again mobile matters). The size of the smartphone market is growing dramatically year over year, so comparing percentages from year to year is pointless. Sure Androids gobbling up a ton of low end feature phone converters, but what happens when that stops? Either due to running out of feature phone users to convert, or WP8 gaining more traction. Where does the new growth happen? Apple's been converting a lot of those low end Android users to iPhone users, so I don't think they are too worried about their long term growth prospects.

Looking at smartphone share alone is like walking through the woods at night with a flashlight. There's a lot you don't see. Apple's goal isn't to beat the 100s of Android manufacturers out there in sales volume, like everyone seems to think. How on Earth would that be a reasonable goal? Production and licencing are two very different business models. Android needs the massive market share, not Apple. Apple's business model isn't like that, and never was. They just want to make the best phones they can and sell a lot of them, and yes, as far as phone models go, the 5s is the top selling phone out there.

Yes but ow end Android phones are starting to match their higher end counterparts. Users who used to buy high end android phones are now buying the lower end phones because they are starting to be just as good or even more preferable than the more expensive models.

Apple will be fine obviously but every user who buys into the Android ecosystem is less likely to spend money towards Apple today and in the future.
 
Smartphones are just a segment of the mobile phone market. [blah blah blah]

When the iPhone launched, Apple didn't even care about smartphone market share. Their long term goal was something like 5% of the mobile phone market. [blah blah]

Smartphone share is not that important of a metric as people seem to think (again mobile matters). [blah blah blah blah] Apple's been converting a lot of those low end Android users to iPhone users, so I don't think they are too worried about their long term growth prospects.

Looking at smartphone share alone is like walking through the woods at night with a flashlight. There's a lot you don't see. Apple's goal isn't to beat the 100s of Android manufacturers out there in sales volume, like everyone seems to think. [more blah]

Bringing this all back around to the "car" thing that is the topic of the thread...

Everyone seems to be forgetting that in this scenario the car is an accessory.

If I'm building an accessory and want the largest audience, I'm going to look at numbers. There will be demographics to look at to be sure, but if you're talking about an 80% market share for a specific ecosystem, and I have to pick an ecosystem, I'll let you take a guess as to which one I'm going to pick.

Fortunately a choice doesn't have to be made. Both interfaces will be supported everywhere. But you gotta admit that in this scenario, at 5-10% market share, Apple and iOS are no longer really part of the show, they are an edge case.

Also, I wanted to point out that if Apple were bringing customers back the percentages wouldn't keep rising in Android's favor. I think that MAY change with the iPhone 6 release. People want larger screens and I think that the larger format iPhones will do well there. Furthermore, why would you think someone would go to a $200 phone on a pricy contract plan from a cheap android phone likely on prepaid? How does that make sense?
 
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For Pete's sake, make the underlying technology universal, while letting different companies put their own features and finishing touches on their own versions. So we can buy whatever car tickles our fancy, without worrying if our OS will be compatible with car X.

Or is that too late already? The last thing we need is another format war.
 
I wouldn't go as far as calling that a simple bug.

That was a show stopper, probably to the point where it was all hands on deck over on the iOS team to get this patched. Relax. I don't need to on my 5S, but I pay attention to the permissions an app requires on my Nexus 5 so I have never once gotten a virus on that device. When your world marketshare is over 1 billion, you're going to be targeted (see: Windows machines). Android doesn't need to be more closed off, it needs to be more open as to wtf is coming in and going out. It's why ROMs like Cyanogenmod are kicking butt (with it's Privacy Guard).

Ah, fair point. I think Android is a solid OS (unlike a lot of Apple fans) and its good to see both platforms at such fierce competition to keep innovation happening (even if it's incremental).
 
Google is probably just riding on top of the work and hardware specifications Apple and auto makers have already hashed out.
lol, GTFO with that piggybacking nonsense. If anything, CarPlay and Android Auto are "just riding on top of the work" Ford and Microsoft put in with Ford Sync. Android Auto also has a more extensive auto network and electronics network behind them as well through the Open Automotive Alliance.
 
For Pete's sake, make the underlying technology universal, while letting different companies put their own features and finishing touches on their own versions. So we can buy whatever car tickles our fancy, without worrying if our OS will be compatible with car X.

Or is that too late already? The last thing we need is another format war.

This is the case with Carplay and Android Auto. It's only after you plug in the phone that Carplay or Android Auto is available. Unfortunately, there are way too many people confused by this fact.
 
Oh dear, the nasty make believe elitist Apple attitude is rearing it's head here again..

Come back when a luxury phone maker puts iOS on it's $20,000 mobile eh ;) it'll be a while as they are too busy using Android.

And I didn't know Tesla and Audi were 'cheap'?

To many on this thread, anything below $100,000 entry price is cheap. It's all relative.

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This post is wrong and stupid on so many levels... do you really believe that Apple -> money crap? Wake up, it's not 2011 anymore, there are pretty nice and highend android smartphones on the market. And believe it or not, other countries than apple-fanboy-county (us) exist. ;-)

If you want to drop a few hundred extra for a carbon case smartphone with the same security riddled OS, be my guest. Just lipstick on a pig.
 
This goes against the knowledge that android users take the bus and drive trucks at best

So now they will track you, save everything you do and where you go and take pictures of you in your house to see if you wear PJ's or not so they can advertise Walmart PJ's to you or the latest in banana hammocks

:eek:

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Free is the best price for lower income people, if its free it will sell

Check the stats on data usage, most A phones world wide don't even have data plans, take South Africa where 256Mb constitutes a data plan

These people don't drive cars

:D
Bringing this all back around to the "car" thing that is the topic of the thread...

Everyone seems to be forgetting that in this scenario the car is an accessory.

If I'm building an accessory and want the largest audience, I'm going to look at numbers. There will be demographics to look at to be sure, but if you're talking about an 80% market share for a specific ecosystem, and I have to pick an ecosystem, I'll let you take a guess as to which one I'm going to pick.

Fortunately a choice doesn't have to be made. Both interfaces will be supported everywhere. But you gotta admit that in this scenario, at 5-10% market share, Apple and iOS are no longer really part of the show, they are an edge case.

Also, I wanted to point out that if Apple were bringing customers back the percentages wouldn't keep rising in Android's favor. I think that MAY change with the iPhone 6 release. People want larger screens and I think that the larger format iPhones will do well there. Furthermore, why would you think someone would go to a $200 phone on a pricy contract plan from a cheap android phone likely on prepaid? How does that make sense?
 
Very dangerous IMO... Here there are laws against texting or even listening to very loud music and then this... Sigh...

It is a legal grey zone. A lot of these center stack entertainment systems are getting custom embedded software builds specifically for rental cars. Some are demoing where you can check your bill right in the dashboard and so on.
 
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