Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
Ahh self-repair, the best way for the manufacturer to shirk its repair and warranty obligations while simultaneously propelling marketing outfits like iFixit into the limelight and avoiding drawing too much attention to the shoddy third party repairer networks they already have in place that universally screw the customers.

You fixed it? Warranty gone! That's reality.

Give us a software and hardware warranty that lasts 5 years and reasonable up front fixed repair costs and service or piss off. 99% of people don't want to fix their own stuff. 99% of people do however want someone to fix it without screwing you.

I demand:

1. Your hardware to have parts availability for 5 years with all costs and service turnarounds identified up front.
2. Your hardware to have security and software availability for 5 years.
3. This to be available to ALL owners from the day the device is first sold.

Everything else is sweeping reality under the carpet and that is disposable trash that ends in landfill.
I'm with you, however, an iPhone is 100% recyclable. If you haven't seen it in action, it is hard to appreciate. But every iPhone Apple takes in can be completely reused down to the barest material.
 
iFixit pretends to advocate for consumer repairs because they sell the consumers repair kits. Oh and they do the repairs themselves after consumers try and fail to do these complicated repairs.
Gonna be honest. Back in the 90's when I was an Apple repair tech, I would give customers instructions over the phone on how to repair their Mac. If it's an easy fix, they customer is happy to save money.? I earned myself some goodwill.? But if it's a difficult job, the smart one bring it in before they do more damage. There were a disproportionally high number of I'm an engineer sort who forge ahead even when over their heads. Good money can be made off them.?
 
Smartphones COULD be designed with easy to replace gaskets, easy to swap batteries and screens, but nooooo, we get glued shut iPhones designed by a company touting its environmental friendliness instead.
that's the tradeoff if you want small, compact and sleek devices. I support right-to-repair where it is applicable. IF I can certainly do it w/o compromising the device aesthetic and design.
 
I'm with you, however, an iPhone is 100% recyclable. If you haven't seen it in action, it is hard to appreciate. But every iPhone Apple takes in can be completely reused down to the barest material.
They only recycle the parts that it is profitable to recycle. The stuff that isn’t goes to the same city dump as everything else.
 
iFixit pretends to advocate for consumer repairs because they sell the consumers repair kits. Oh and they do the repairs themselves after consumers try and fail to do these complicated repairs.

There really is nothing else to say about it.
Your first point is covered in @ApplesAreSweet&Sour's post. Yes, iFixit sells parts and tools. Should Google instead manufacture these things themselves and provide their own documentation? Sure, but it won't happen as quickly.

As to your second point, I didn't realize iFixit did this. I've got a few broken items Apple won't touch. Can you point me to where I can open a repair request with iFixit?
 
  • Like
Reactions: brucemr
This is all great news with Google and Samsung making these types initiatives, but how are they getting the word out to consumers that they make the repair themselves? That I think alone is something that consumers generally don’t know what ifixit is, so are they openly telling customers who call/contact them for repair, that they can do this themselves?

I guess my question is, most consumers have no idea that this option will be available to make the repair themselves, so how are these tech manufacturers advocating that they can self-repair when their phone is broken?
 
Your first point is covered in @ApplesAreSweet&Sour's post. Yes, iFixit sells parts and tools. Should Google instead manufacture these things themselves and provide their own documentation? Sure, but it won't happen as quickly.
There is no point to cover, and I don't think Google needs to manufacturer any such thing.

I simply pointed out the ongoing disingenuous nature of everything iFixit says and does publicly. They want repairability, because their business depends on it. Not because they care about a single consumer advocacy concern, or the environment, or any of the other lame and transparent excuses they come up with.
 
  • Like
Reactions: GMShadow
There is no point to cover, and I don't think Google needs to manufacturer any such thing.

I simply pointed out the ongoing disingenuous nature of everything iFixit says and does publicly. They want repairability, because their business depends on it. Not because they care about a single consumer advocacy concern, or the environment, or any of the other lame and transparent excuses they come up with.
You didn't point anything out, you stated that iFixit "do the repairs themselves after consumers try and fail to do these complicated repairs." This is a disingenuous statement because it's not what's actually happening.

You also say Google doesn't need to manufacture anything. Ok, then what? These forums foam at the mouth at the mention of iFixit because they're also a for profit company. If Google doesn't need to manufacture anything and it's also not ok for iFixit to be involved, where does that leave the consumer for self repair? Should self repair not be possible since we're moving to 'complex advanced micro technology'?
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheSapient
I'm a bit confused - is Apple supposed to be the same as most manufacturers, or are they supposed to be better?

When it comes to supporting repair by owners they should the worst in the history of humans.
As an Apple customer I don't want Apple to optimise for doing stuff yourself when you can pay someone else to do it.
 
  • Like
Reactions: SFjohn
Apple changed the battery of my iPhone 8 and broke the Touch ID. If official technicians can't do it properly, then there is no way I would risk it. Providing parts and partnering with repair companies are all a cover to not provide easily replaceable batteries. Instead of putting more and more cameras in the rear, phone manufacturers should focus on that.
Apple replaced the battery of my 6S back in the day and added an outward bulge onto the LCD. I don't even know how that was possible because I was able to do it myself later on with no issues. At least Apple repairs come with a 3 month warranty.
 
  • Like
Reactions: HalfFullmoon
I simply pointed out the ongoing disingenuous nature of everything iFixit says and does publicly. They want repairability, because their business depends on it. Not because they care about a single consumer advocacy concern, or the environment, or any of the other lame and transparent excuses they come up with.
Isn't it the absolute worst when companies do things to provide a valuable product or service to their customers, and try to take credit for the positive things that those products and services provide, while actually being motivated by all the extreme profits that those products and services provide?

Gosh, I'm glad that iFixit is the only company guilty of doing such a thing. I can't imagine any other company that would make decisions purely out of profit motivation but then try to convince their customers that it's good for security or the environment or something.
 
How long before iFixit get sued or regulated by the government for having a monopoly on the repair industry ?
This is a bit outlandish and non-sensical. Nor would ifixit be in a predicament where they would be ‘sued’ for capitalizing on an industry that should be extended to a consumer in a market where inflation is affecting everyone, where self repairs would be a practical-affordable solution offered from a third party-privately owned company.
 
This is a bit outlandish and non-sensical. Nor would ifixit be in a predicament where they would be ‘sued’ for capitalizing on an industry that should be extended to a consumer in a market where inflation is affecting everyone, where self repairs would be a practical-affordable solution offered from a third party-privately owned company.
At this time and point of technology self repairs...fix it yourself is not practical for the masses. Maybe a few that are able in respect to having the aptitude. But, the best you are going to get a still just "whole assembly" swap out. Electronics are so sophisticated at this point, if you open ALMOST any TV everything in on 1 board...including the power supply.
 
When it comes to supporting repair by owners they should the worst in the history of humans.
As an Apple customer I don't want Apple to optimise for doing stuff yourself when you can pay someone else to do it.
That's the point, though. You can't pay someone else to do it right now.

You might be able to have Apple or their anointed representative do it, provided that the repair you need done falls under the relatively short list of things that they will repair, and provided that the repair is either covered under warranty (with Apple being the sole decider of what can be covered under warranty), or you are okay with paying an incredibly inflated charge for said repair.
 
  • Like
Reactions: TheSapient
Smartphones COULD be designed with easy to replace gaskets, easy to swap batteries and screens, but nooooo, we get glued shut iPhones designed by a company touting its environmental friendliness instead.
Yes, they can physically, but! You will get with shorter battery life (smaller battery) or bigger (thicker) device. no 2 ways about it. If the battery needs to be removable (by the user) it now needs to be a packaged piece...a plastic case with contacts. You need to have a receptical internally to which the battery slides into. This all has size/thickness to it to it will require more space for the same capacity battery. You also have contacts which CAN...but might not be come unreliable.
 
There is no point to cover, and I don't think Google needs to manufacturer any such thing.

I simply pointed out the ongoing disingenuous nature of everything iFixit says and does publicly. They want repairability, because their business depends on it. Not because they care about a single consumer advocacy concern, or the environment, or any of the other lame and transparent excuses they come up with.

Maybe it would help if you went into some detail? Are the business practices not public? Their website calls iFixit a "Parts and Repair Store". Is that not what they are? Or are you saying that people who repair devices don't really believe that devices should be repairable? Do you only get tech made, sold, and repaired by charities? Can you maybe point out some specific lies they tell?
 
Sorry I should have put "/s" at the bottom of my post. My bad. It was a joke/reference to App Store monopolies but given how two of the largest smartphone makers in the world have partnered with one singular company could be misconstrued as iFixit forming a monopoly on the self repair industry.
 
  • Like
Reactions: coolfactor
Register on MacRumors! This sidebar will go away, and you'll see fewer ads.