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am i missing something here??? why will the OS be uploading everything to their servers for them to see??
If this new OS is basically a very light shell for the Chrome browser, with all your apps being HTML5 web apps, everything will be in "the cloud" be default. Just like with Gmail, Google Docs etc.
 
If this new OS is basically a very light shell for the Chrome browser, with all your apps being HTML5 web apps, everything will be in "the cloud" be default. Just like with Gmail, Google Docs etc.

ok i see. in that case - then this is ludicrous!!! what if you are away from internet usage or something?? i might vote negative now :p
 
am i missing something here??? why will the OS be uploading everything to their servers for them to see??

it might be a bit too much of suspicion of course, but you never know until you see it.
If this new OS is basically a very light shell for the Chrome browser, with all your apps being HTML5 web apps, everything will be in "the cloud" be default. Just like with Gmail, Google Docs etc.
not necessarily. js and html itself don't have to be a connected technology at all, they works just as normal without an internet. think Palm Pre, its a small test case of such environment.

Tech itself aside, its all depends on how google want to proceed with the OS, and we will have to wait and see if google is asking too much of information from users.
 
ok i see. in that case - then this is ludicrous!!! what if you are away from internet usage or something?? i might vote negative now :p
This is where HTML5 and/or Google Gears comes in. It will allow you to work offline with a local cached copy of what is in the cloud.
 
Comparing Vista to OS X is a non-starter. Hell, most people think that XP is better than Vista!

I don't 'think' I know from personal usage. OS X is better at some things than Vista, Vista - particularly x64 - is better at others. Personally I find Vista to be far better than XP which really needs to die as soon as possible.

OS X is 64bits in ways that matter

And these are?

Then by that logic, Linux is even better. It works in just about every configuration out there, across several architectures, and you instantly have thousands of apps available to you after you install your OS....

Actually it is to a degree apart from the small matter of those applications having no enterprise level support. And the multiple distros (and before anyone pipes up, no, that's not the same as multiple versions of the same product).

How is OS X operating environment "restricted"? And are you one of those who think that only enterprise-market matters?

No, I'm one of those who believes an OS shouldn't be locked to a particular manufacturer's hardware set.

Actually, I think it's about 4-5% globally, while having about 8-9% in the US.

I know - an increase of about 1-2%.

I don't want to get into a 'mine's bigger than yours' contest about operating systems because I think they all have their virtues and problems and generalised comparisons are pretty useless. The selling point of OS X is its utter reliability on restricted hardware. The selling point of Window is its flexibility. I like them both.

As for Google's OS; we'll see. I just think it's going to fail for the same reason netbook Linux has - too much entrenchment from MS and Apple.
 
also I want to say the availability of 3rd party apps of native codes will be necessary for chrome os to succeed. I honestly think linux lost to windows on this part during past 2 years of netbook rise.

Netbook is not a mobile phone, its nearly a notebook, if google think a crippled system, that might be excellent on a mobile phone, is good enough for a netbook, then it is in for a disaster.

Do surprise me, please,, google.
 
This is where HTML5 and/or Google Gears comes in. It will allow you to work offline with a local cached copy of what is in the cloud.

interesting. i wonder what sort of storage space the cloud will have, surely they would cap it then make you pay for extra..... does that make any sense?
 
At what point does it become uncomfortable or legally shady to have Google's CEO on Apple's Board of Directors?

--HG
 
interesting. i wonder what sort of storage space the cloud will have, surely they would cap it then make you pay for extra..... does that make any sense?
That's almost certainly what they would do. You'd get X amount for free and pay for anything more you wanted/needed.
 
interesting. i wonder what sort of storage space the cloud will have, surely they would cap it then make you pay for extra..... does that make any sense?

no, cloud is not internet HDD, there is no size to constrain and they only store your information and should not take any significant large size at all.

However, if google os is going to cloud, I think it will fail. There is no reason to expect a computer user to surrender his/her ID at computer login screen, its ludicrous.
 
That's almost certainly what they would do. You'd get X amount for free and pay for anything more you wanted/needed.

damn, that will be their downfall if thats the case.

no, cloud is not internet HDD, there is no size to constrain and they only store your information and should not take any significant large size at all.

for you maybe not, there would be tons of people who have tens/hundreds of GBs of data. hardly useful for them.

However, if google os is going to cloud, I think it will fail. There is no reason to expect a computer user to surrender his/her ID at computer login screen, its ludicrous.

i concur.
 
for you maybe not, there would be tons of people who have tens/hundreds of GBs of data. hardly useful for them.

i think we have a different definition of what Cloud is. Other than that, I think I understand and agree with what you are saying.
 
i think we have a different definition of what Cloud is. Other than that, I think I understand and agree with what you are saying.

haha really?? it was my understanding that Cloud is a collaboration of your data on the internet, somewhat like Mac thing. you log on and get access to it etcetc..
 
Not Another!

What a waste of time! Google needs to focus on what they do best... they have little experience here and lets face it... people have several choices already.... Windows, MacOS and Linux. Why do we need another? How do they plan to stay competitive against the alternatives... lets face it... MS and Apple have been at this for years. Of course, Google an hire the talent, but will they be able to excel from what's out there already out of the box?

Wake me up when it's over... oh time to get up? :D
 
At what point does it become uncomfortable or legally shady to have Google's CEO on Apple's Board of Directors?

--HG

Well he already leaves the room for iPhone discussion
so add OS discussion now and he really isn't at the meeting at all.
 
I don't want more of my personal data in the cloud, I want less of my personal data in the cloud.

Also I think Google has too much power already. Why do they want to do this? Think about it, what was their benefit when they gave everyone oodles of space for e-mails? Advertising. I really don't want Google scanning all my files to serve me yet more ads.

Sadly I do think they have a decent chance of success long-term, I think this is something they've been planning forever, and certainly is very different to the little side projects that sometimes fall flat. But just like with the arguments for / against Blu-ray movie support Vs Downloads, there seems to be a lot of people who don't actually understand that the whole world does not have ubiquitous super-fast internet connections yet, and that is the biggest obstacle to 'progress' such as it is regarded in theses instances.
 
I don't get this move at all.

Making a browser was almost logical for the Google; Why the world needed yet another browser I have no idea (just what developers need is one more browser to worry about), but an operating system is a waste of money I think.

We've got Mac, we've got Windows. We've also got a million and one distros of Linux. Why do we need another hairball to clog the drain?

Google should really put more effort into charitable work rather than make useless products where there really isn't any need.
 
haha really?? it was my understanding that Cloud is a collaboration of your data on the internet, somewhat like Mac thing. you log on and get access to it etcetc..

for some reason, I think cloud is a virtual metapher that only contains unique IDs of a computer, or user, and act as a link between device and other internet storages, may they be gmail, box.net, photobucket, facebook, or something else.

I dont think cloud is a physical storage somewhere on the earth....
 
I'm of the opinion that more choice is NEVER a bad thing. If Google wants to try their hand at an OS go right ahead, no one HAS to use it it will just be another choice available to users. I think it'll be interesting to see what they come up with and how well it is supported.
 
for some reason, I think cloud is a virtual metapher that only contains unique IDs of a computer, or user, and act as a link between device and other internet storages, may they be gmail, box.net, photobucket, or something else.

I dont think cloud is a physical storage somewhere on the earth....

right, well in that case then yea our views are different. i have a feeling you might be correct.
 
Gosh, good luck to them if they want to sink money into this. Apple do well for themselves by making the hardware they put their OS on - but making OS's to be compatible with all the 3rd party hardware out there?

Good luck keeping people happy on that one.

Plus, even Windows have a more polished look to their interface now - Google work hard, but their stuff reminds me of a bygone era somehow.
 
So Excited!!

As a netbook user, this is very exciting: Chrome is amazing for netbooks. But I do hope Intel Atom support will be something they seek out... please, Google!

Although... this may give me an excuse to get another netbook... hmmm :D
 
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