PlipPlop
macrumors 6502a
I think at least for the payment things they have be very close within a few cm.
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Google Announces Major Push Into NFC Payments With Google Wallet
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I think at least for the payment things they have be very close within a few cm.
BlindMellon
macrumors 65816
Great. I like how everyone was behind this when Apple was connected but now that google beat them to the punch it's the worst idea ever.
I'm not particularly interested no matter who's behind it though.
I'm not particularly interested no matter who's behind it though.
Mattstkc
macrumors 6502a
BUT you can leave your wallet Auto-logged in in the background. I'm sure this will come with a timeout built in. I'm wondering if this falls under Citibank's fraud coverage. If it does, it should fall under any major bank's fraud coverage and you'll be fine.
NFC is official now by Google.
Bravo Google for braving it.
We now have to see how it works out with time.
Bravo Google for braving it.
We now have to see how it works out with time.
Oletros
macrumors 603
NFC range is 25-30 cm, the screen has to be unlocked, an app executed an a pin typed to enable the system.
If the phone is stolen the thief needs still the PIN
Oletros
macrumors 603
no way
My precious iPhone 4----- + ------Starbucks kid's Greasy,oily hands all over it = disaster sone for my OCD
My precious iPhone 4----- + ------Starbucks kid's Greasy,oily hands all over it = disaster sone for my OCD
It's not religious. It is logical.
Apple has never screwed me over. Apple has never cheated me, and I'm unaware of Apple ever violating people's privacy, or stealing other companies products. Apple has never callously lost my data.
Google has done all of the above. I can't even trust google with email anymore.
I'm sure as hell not going to trust them with anything financial!
I don't think google has really beat them to the punch.
Google has become like microsoft. They get wind that a competitor is doing something and then release a press release. Just like the google music service pretends to "beat apple to the punch".
Apple waits until the product is ready to go, and then starts selling it.
Apple is usually first to actually market their products while google is still issuing press releases and talking about vaporware.
Like Microsoft!
Oletros
macrumors 603
For some of us it's more the concern about how much personal information you are handing Google, so with this they know exactly what you buy alongside where you surf. Other companies can certainly gather this information from other sources, but there's a bit of a groundswell of concern over Google in particular.
Yep.. cash is king.. I always go for that over plastic whenever I can. I bought a PS3 with cash a couple years back, and the kid at best buy looked at me funny...
For you people who haven't gone through the Google presentation today, you should really watch it. It addresses many of your "possible scenarios"
Phone lost: not able to log into phones, data can be remotely wiped.
NFC mining machine: NFC controller is not powered without the user actually activating it. No use for receptors trying to make phony transactions.
Google data mining: opt-in by users for coupons/offers. Stay out if you don't want your privacy to be breached.
Credit Card data extraction while phone not in possession: Google does NOT store any of your card and banking data. Those data will never be routed or shared in anyway. Google wallet connects to your banks for permission. But does NOT store the actual info. All data are handled by separate companies, making a one-hack, all-data almost impossible. The only thing Google have any sort of control is on the app and NFC controller.
Feel safer with your wallet in hand: How is this so different than having your phone in hand? Your CC/Cash in your wallet is not any safer than your cell in your pocket. As a matter of fact, to use Google wallet, you need a PIN. If anyone got your wallet, it's free gas before you cancel your CC. But I guess all power to you.
Last but not least, if you really don't want to use your CC but want to take advantage of NFC, you could always get a prepaid google wallet... so you will always know how much money is in there.
Phone lost: not able to log into phones, data can be remotely wiped.
NFC mining machine: NFC controller is not powered without the user actually activating it. No use for receptors trying to make phony transactions.
Google data mining: opt-in by users for coupons/offers. Stay out if you don't want your privacy to be breached.
Credit Card data extraction while phone not in possession: Google does NOT store any of your card and banking data. Those data will never be routed or shared in anyway. Google wallet connects to your banks for permission. But does NOT store the actual info. All data are handled by separate companies, making a one-hack, all-data almost impossible. The only thing Google have any sort of control is on the app and NFC controller.
Feel safer with your wallet in hand: How is this so different than having your phone in hand? Your CC/Cash in your wallet is not any safer than your cell in your pocket. As a matter of fact, to use Google wallet, you need a PIN. If anyone got your wallet, it's free gas before you cancel your CC. But I guess all power to you.
Last but not least, if you really don't want to use your CC but want to take advantage of NFC, you could always get a prepaid google wallet... so you will always know how much money is in there.
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Hey, now you can't say Google isn't learning... we hear iPhone's NFC rumors all the time... now Google came up first... and as for Apple? not even press release... just rumors.
We can't say NFC payment is ready or not... but from what I see in my local stores... paypass is available in most of the grab-and-go type of stores...
Piggie
macrumors G3
I like cash.
It's real (no chance for someone to say the cheque was bad or anything)
No-one has any record of it (can't follow what you buy, where and from whom)
Cash can get you discounts at some times, as official people don't always need to know (tax etc)
Builders are the most helpful when it comes for cash I have been told.
Dunno if you've been reading the news, but if you have an iphone, apple has been tracking you wherever you go. I tried it online with my iphone, and saw places i visited 2 years ago when I got my iPhone 3GS. Scary s***!
Keep up with the news - it's captured on your phone but never sent to Apple....
This thread is making my head hurt! You don't hand your phone over to anyone, you swipe it yourself.
So they say....yet also secretly tracked your location without notifying anyone...sounds scummy to me.
P.S. I just placed a GPS tracker behind you ear without you knowing, tracking you wherever you go. But dont worry, its not transmitting to anyone, just secretly tracking your location without your approval and saving the data to its HD.
....thats cool with you, right?
einmusiker
macrumors 68040
can't wait until I can open my house doors, car doors, start my car, open my hotel door, pay for everything all with my jesus phone. It even becomes a treadmill!