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I used Firefox until they started breaking things and updating major version numbers every week just to catch up to other browser versions, even if the update didn't do anything major. Switched to Chrome and have been using it since, it's more about productivity for me. Chrome has extensions that allow me to connect to internal work websites via an SSH proxy. I don't see a rule-based proxy switcher for Safari, so that makes it rather difficult to do what I need.

The first thing I did with my 2012 Mac after I bought it was turn off graphics switching. :cool:

Safari is nice, cool, etc...but it lacks functionality I need. Until Safari can do everything Chrome or Firefox can I won't be able to use it as my primary browser. :(
 
Overall I am not a bit surprised this happens. The only thing of theirs I like is their search engine, which I've been using for over a decade. But to be honest, I'd support Google more if they made something with features they didn't find on their own search engine.
 
lol at the fact this causes the whole system to crash, sounds like Apple is also to blame here
 
Macs don't crash when they run anything else.
They crash when they run Chrome.

I think the source of the problem is quite clear.
Yep, it is very clear. Problem is in OSX. Applications can crash as often as they want. However when application crashes whole OS that clearly indicates problem with OS. It is simply not acceptable that application is able to crash OS.

Allow me to sue Microsoft when my computer crashes due to me running a poorly-coded trivial app. Because you know, such a trivial app shouldn't cause the operating system to crash.
Please give me an example of poorly coded application, which crashes Windows. Not Windows 98, but Windows 7.
 
the only thing that keeps me with Firefox is it's ability to gave vertical tabs (with add ons).
 
You can be average and still be the best, if, as the poster describes, the other options "suck". I'm not defending his position, just pointing the logic.
No you can't, I think you might not quite understand what "average" means. In fact the only way the average can also be the best is if all entries are identical. Then the average is also the maximum and also the minimum.

Then the graphics bug should be present in all applications, not just Chrome.
Perhaps it will show up in other applications. If it's a rarely-used function then perhaps few other applications would exhibit this behaviour.

Ah, I miss Classic.
 
Then the graphics bug should be present in all applications, not just Chrome.
Google should code Chrome better so it works with the driver.

Fail.

It's clearly an unforeseen bug with the intel HD 4000, which a driver update will likely work around.

Also, can we just calm down about chrome sucking. Even though I'm a safari user, I admit there's a lot to like about chrome.
 
Chrome has steadily gained in overall popularity among desktop Internet browsers and is currently running neck-and-neck with Firefox for the second position behind Microsoft's Internet Explorer.

Wait what?? IE is still the most popular web browser?? Who still uses IE??
 
Try gfxCardStatus and activate only the IGP (Intel HD 4000) AND disable the automatic GPU switching in the energy saver preferences! Does that work?

Btw, i see Apple released new printer drivers (Epson & Canon). This means (Mac) OS X 10.7.5 in the next 2-4 weeks.
 
i dont miss google chrom

it is removed from my system

i am running in OSX 10.8 and SAFARI kicks firefox and google.

google and others, if they want their applications running on OSX, have to update them.

belive me, when you will try the new Mountain Lion and Safari, you will not look for other alternatives :)
 
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Then the graphics bug should be present in all applications, not just Chrome.
Google should code Chrome better so it works with the driver.

The only acceptable reason for a kernel panic is hardware failure.

In all other cases it's a bug in the OS. Google are not responsible for bugs in the OS. They are responsible for the bug in Chrome that exposes the bug in the OS and they will fix that.
 
I read it as "Google issued a statement saying 'Hahaha all you Apple fanboys got PUNK'D! Enjoy your new CrashBook Airs!' "
 
Yep, it is very clear. Problem is in OSX. Applications can crash as often as they want. However when application crashes whole OS that clearly indicates problem with OS. It is simply not acceptable that application is able to crash OS.


Please give me an example of poorly coded application, which crashes Windows. Not Windows 98, but Windows 7.

Agreed. In Windows 7, I have seen the graphics driver crash, and Windows just restarts it and lets you continue. I don't believe OS X has this ability yet. Although Chrome triggered the crash, the bug that crashed OS X resides somewhere in the operating system. However, you can argue if the main responsible of these crashes is Google or Apple, since none should have released a product that would allow a system crash. Regardless, Apple should fix this bug and continue working on stability improvements, at least to match the competition. Ideally, it should never crash, but that might be hard to pull off. :)

On another note, I'm a Chrome user (on Windows and OS X), because of its speed and security features, and built-in click-to-run-plugin, although I think the user experience of Safari is better, for the most part.
 
I just use the nightly builds of webkit way faster than chrome. I cant understand why anyone bothers with Chrome its no faster than the normal preinstalled safari to me. I just think its people physiologically thinking its faster. Chrome is based on webkit so its got the same underpinnings as Safari as well.

Sound like chrome has become like dreaded IE: Macintosh Edition in Mac OS 8.6 that also use to cause system wide crashes and freezes.
 
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I just use the nightly builds of webkit way faster than chrome. I cant understand why anyone bothers with Chrome its no faster than the normal preinstalled safari to me. I just think its people physiologically thinking its faster. Chrome is based on webkit so its got the same under pinnings of Safari.

Sound that chrome has become like IE Macintosh Edition in Mac OS 8.6 that also use to cause system wide crashes and freezes.

Some people do use Chrome or Firefox due to the amount of extensions which aren't available for Safari.

I use Safari as my main browser but use Firefox for some tasks due to some very very useful extensions. If Firefox wasn't so sluggish it'd be my primary browser but...
 
I've not use chrome since I discovered it's basically spyware. Ive also deleted all the other Goggle trojans, such as Google Earth an!d Picasa) from my machine, Bottom line:is stick with Safari or FF. Google IS evil!

I totally agree with you!!!!

I also deleted all Google software, when I discovered google uses spyware.
 
The worst and the most funny thing is that user space application manages to crash whole "most advanced desktop operating system"... OSX is not so stable after all, Linux and windows do better...

its obviously a driver issue.

yes os x, or maybe the intel coder(s) they have on board to do the driver support for hd4000 is to blame.

chrome is leaking resources, but the OS should just terminate the app for that.
 
It's wasteful on my iMac anyway, using a lot of extra CPU to load Flash and using more RAM and CPU while idle.
 
So when Chrome freezes and crashes Macs, Google blames it on Apple.
Seriously?
Just wow.

I switched from IE6-7-8 to Chrome to Firefox to IE9 to Safari. I like Safari the best, Firefox second, IE9 third and Chrome last. The way Chrome renders things and the UI for some reason doesn't sit well with me... :/

I really hate the Chrome UI, but I think it's second-best because it's fast. Safari is still quicker, supports better extensions, and has better features anyway (at least on Mac). Sadly, Apple has decided to ruin Safari for Windows by making it have the Chrome UI :mad:

Also, Firefox has really gotten slow. It used to be the best.

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Chrome is the best browser by far, I imagine this is down to apples terrible drivers.

Have you used Safari? It's actually faster than Chrome, and it has some nice features in it that are unique, like the Activity Window.
 
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