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He's not wrong, everything that is typed in the address field is sent to Google if you use Google as the default search engine in Chrome. That is a result of the dual search and address field, and this is sent before you even hit enter. How do you think Chrome is able to give you suggestions in the address bar before you are finished typing?

If you want to convince yourself of this, trace socket connections and dump packets going out of your box.
That's a feature of a search engine and not necessarily the browser. Most modern browsers support autocomplete via a variety of search providers. Maybe they don't have an omnibar like Chrome does, but most sure do have a search box next to the address bar.

Chrome even gives you a choice between Google and two other search competitors on its first startup, if you don't feel inclined to give Google your meaningless non-personally-identifiable autocomplete information.
 
I've not use chrome since I discovered it's basically spyware. Ive also deleted all the other Goggle trojans, such as Google Earth an!d Picasa) from my machine, Bottom line:is stick with Safari or FF. Google IS evil!

And what proof of this do you have, aside from panicked ill-informed fear-mongering?
 
And what proof of this do you have, aside from panicked ill-informed fear-mongering?

You do realize that they were caught red-handed reading messages and illegally using WiFi signals, right?

They're currently under investigation in the UK for that.

Google is NOT the saintly company many Googlebots think they are.
 
That's a feature of a search engine and not necessarily the browser.

Sure, but in this case, the browser and search engine use the same data entry field. It's not necessarily tied to the browser if the search field is separated from the url field.

if you don't feel inclined to give Google your meaningless non-personally-identifiable autocomplete information.

Autocomplete is only one part of this, I mentioned it as an indication that the information (everything you type in your url field) is sent to google before you hit enter. It's a side note really.
 
You do realize that they were caught red-handed reading messages and illegally using WiFi signals, right?

They're currently under investigation in the UK for that.

Google is NOT the saintly company many Googlebots think they are.

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Their StreetView cars captured some unencrypted packets and the data was backed up on hard drives somewhere. It's not the big deal that you make it out to be.
 
To those who hate Chrome, you're only shortchanging yourself.

Or if they want most of the advantages of Chrome, but wear a tinfoil hat so the Google Advertising Overlords can't read their thoughts, they can always go with Chromium.

It's like Google without the Google in it. Not that it matters much, they already know where you live, what you did Thursday, September 24, 2006, and what your plans are for tomorrow.

...they might even be among us now. Any one of us here could be a Google Bot. You think you know KnightWRX, ixodes, marcusj0015? Hell, even me? Do you really know? I don't think you do. Any one of us could be watching you. Taking notes. Ready to report to Google about your favorite movies. Videogames. Books. Music. It's an insidious beast, that Google. Targeting demographics without remorse.

There is no escape. You will be advertised to. It is a brave new world. Submit willingly...

...for Google knows. :eek:
 
So Google Chrome was freezing because of some bug in the Mac OS and only on specific graphic cards? Big deal... How about I create a list of other apps that crash on my Snow Leopard on the Mac I'm using (yes, I haven't updated to Lion yet).
 
Then the graphics bug should be present in all applications, not just Chrome.
Google should code Chrome better so it works with the driver.

If the application interacts with the driver in a way that doesn't work properly, then the application should crash. The OS should never.

Yes, Google absolutely needs to review its interaction with the graphics APIs to make sure they aren't attempting to use it in unsupported ways, or depending on unspecified behavior. If they are misusing the APIs, then they need to fix them.

At the same time, Apple also needs to make sure that misuse of its graphics APIs is handled in a way that preserves the integrity of everything else outside the offending application, to make sure that it doesn't cause the entire OS to crash.

(Or, if it turns out that it is possible to trigger such an OS crash even if the application developer completely adheres to all the necessary API specifications, then Apple needs to either fix the driver to behave in accordance with specifications, or else adjust the specifications to advise developers to avoid performing the theoretically-valid but practically-offending operation.)

Both companies have code that needs reviewing.
 
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I just use the nightly builds of webkit way faster than chrome. I cant understand why anyone bothers with Chrome its no faster than the normal preinstalled safari to me. I just think its people physiologically thinking its faster. Chrome is based on webkit so its got the same underpinnings as Safari as well.

Sound like chrome has become like dreaded IE: Macintosh Edition in Mac OS 8.6 that also use to cause system wide crashes and freezes.

Lol "same underpinnings" Chrome uses a custom version of WebKit, Chrome added the seperate thread archeticture that WebKit 2 ripped off, and Chrome's V8 beats the pants off all other browsers, stop acting like you understand any of this when you clearly don't.
 
Well said.

To those who hate Chrome, you're only shortchanging yourself.

I've been using it with great success as my browser of choice on both my Macs & PC's for quite some time now. There are far too many advantages to ignore.

Such as? And don't say aesthetics, I don't care about that on my browser.
 
Or if they want most of the advantages of Chrome, but wear a tinfoil hat so the Google Advertising Overlords can't read their thoughts, they can always go with Chromium.

It's like Google without the Google in it. Not that it matters much, they already know where you live, what you did Thursday, September 24, 2006, and what your plans are for tomorrow.

...they might even be among us now. Any one of us here could be a Google Bot. You think you know KnightWRX, ixodes, marcusj0015? Hell, even me? Do you really know? I don't think you do. Any one of us could be watching you. Taking notes. Ready to report to Google about your favorite movies. Videogames. Books. Music. It's an insidious beast, that Google. Targeting demographics without remorse.

There is no escape. You will be advertised to. It is a brave new world. Submit willingly...

...for Google knows. :eek:

OMG i'm a Google bot! Thanks for the honor! This is awesome, what should I do with my new googlebot powers? Hmmmm. Lmao.
 
You do realize that they were caught red-handed reading messages and illegally using WiFi signals, right?

They're currently under investigation in the UK for that.

Google is NOT the saintly company many Googlebots think they are.

Right and now they are subject to 20 years of careful Government monitoring. So you don't have to worry about it until 2032.

And I don't use any Google services, so I am not invested in defending them, just stating facts.
 
You do realize that they were caught red-handed reading messages and illegally using WiFi signals, right?

They're currently under investigation in the UK for that.

Google is NOT the saintly company many Googlebots think they are.

So... Let me get this straight, Google Chrome, is really a transformer, that becomes an eavesdropping Google car when you're asleep?
 
if the application interacts with the driver in a way that doesn't work properly, then the application should crash. The os should never.

Yes, google absolutely needs to review its interaction with the graphics apis to make sure they aren't attempting to use it in unsupported ways, or depending on unspecified behavior. If they are misusing the apis, then they need to fix them.

At the same time, apple also needs to make sure that misuse of its graphics apis is handled in a way that preserves the integrity of everything else outside the offending application, to make sure that it doesn't cause the entire os to crash.

(or, if it turns out that it is possible to trigger such an os crash even if the application developer completely adheres to all the necessary api specifications, then apple needs to either fix the driver to behave in accordance with specifications, or else adjust the specifications to advise developers to avoid performing the theoretically-valid but practically-offending operation.)

both companies have code that needs reviewing.

exactly!
 
Sure, but in this case, the browser and search engine use the same data entry field. It's not necessarily tied to the browser if the search field is separated from the url field.



Autocomplete is only one part of this, I mentioned it as an indication that the information (everything you type in your url field) is sent to google before you hit enter. It's a side note really.

It's sent to them because it's necessary for that information to be sent for search autocomplete to even work. Everything they do with this information is disclosed and the feature can be turned off, and they're not sneaky about it.

https://support.google.com/chrome/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=114836&p=settings_privacy

It's not like they're actively scouring your web history, looking for every opportunity to show your ads targeted specifically toward everything in it, like the other user implied. These are all features that make browsing a lot easier (that can be turned off), and not everything is sent.
 
Let me do it for him:

Come-on. I'm genuinely interested in knowing if it is worth trying and I'm sure others are too. Don't just spew any random nonsense that comes to mind, but explain things properly please.


Source?

* Usability

What does this even mean? I've been using Safari for many years now and haven't had any issue getting to my web content. Before that I had SeaMonkey. Please explain this.


Same as above.

* UI (you can ignore that if you want to)

Done.

* Developer tools

Doesn't Safari also have this?

* Extension system (not because it exists, but because of how it's designed)

Safari also has this, though in truth, I haven't seen much need for extensions. For the most part they are incredibly gimmicky, other than Ad Block and Click2Plugin which I think are on both Safari and Chrome.

* Extra functionality like synced Tabs, inter-device operability

Safari also has this in the DPs.
 
I find Safari unexciting but it works best for me. Firefox used to be my fab but now it takes forever to start up and chrome's not much better. I still use them to test my website codeing. All browsers annoy me.
 
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Hey, don't worry about all of the Google-haters.
If Tim Cook tells Apple fanatics to like Google for now on, they'll love it and use all of its services. :cool:
 
It's not like they're actively scouring your web history, looking for every opportunity to show your ads targeted specifically toward everything in it, like the other user implied. These are all features that make browsing a lot easier (that can be turned off), and not everything is sent.

And what is sent is anonymized. They track your computer through its cookies and such, so they know your general interests, but there was a recent study which revealed they know little if anything about who you are as a person. They can't even accurately guess your age given the data they have.
 
Hey, don't worry about all of the Google-haters.
If Tim Cook tells them to like Google for now on, they'll love it and use all of its services. :cool:

Yeah, no.

I wouldn't use Google even if they bribed every user with $20.

I won't support the arrogant, elitist snobs at Google. It amazes me that they've duped the tech world into thinking they're, somehow, looking to further technology when that's the furthest thing from their minds.

And what is sent is anonymized. They track your computer through its cookies and such, so they know your general interests, but there was a recent study which revealed they know little if anything about who you are as a person. They can't even accurately guess your age given the data they have.

Google owns Doubleclick, you know. One of the worst offenders of tracking on the Internet.
 
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