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Google Chrome Causing Freezing and Crashing on New Mac Notebooks
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errr are you saying Apple wouldn't beta test a laptop with ground breaking new graphics with one of the worlds biggest Internet Browsers? or games or video editing software..?
na you right why should they, they probably just package it up and only run Apple software saying it'll be fine as it goes out the door
Not really.
Safari is TERRIBLE. It's absolutely the worst excuse for browser. Honestly, if I could kill any browser first, it'd be Safari.
Chrome is light years ahead of Safari. There's a reason why it's one of the top browsers, whereas Safari has very little market share.
Do you understand now? Safari, is a POS. I cannot take anyone who uses it seriously.
I'm glad this problem was addressed. My 2.7 ghz Retina MBP has crashed several times under chrome and it's good to know that it's not just my model.
Chrome is the only browser other than Safari that supports HiDPI mode (in other words, not looking awful on the 2880x1800 display), so it's depressing to hear its having problems. I used to be a Firefox user but I can't stand browsing with a pixelated mess anymore.
Has anyone else had problems with the switching between the Intel HD 4000 and the Nvidia GT 650M? I'm currently running on battery with no graphics intensive programs active but the GT 650M is in use as my GPU instead of the HD 4000 (in other words my battery is being drained keeping the discrete graphics alive instead of using the integrated GPU).
Chrome is the only browser other than Safari that supports HiDPI mode (in other words, not looking awful on the 2880x1800 display), so it's depressing to hear its having problems. I used to be a Firefox user but I can't stand browsing with a pixelated mess anymore.
Has anyone else had problems with the switching between the Intel HD 4000 and the Nvidia GT 650M? I'm currently running on battery with no graphics intensive programs active but the GT 650M is in use as my GPU instead of the HD 4000 (in other words my battery is being drained keeping the discrete graphics alive instead of using the integrated GPU).
Chrome works flawlessly on my rMBP.
Safari may look pretty on the retina screen, but I hate it. It's a terrible browser. I'll stick with Chrome and the crappy scaled graphics, and wait for them to update it with retina support. The Chrome Canary alpha with retina support looks superb.
Safari may look pretty on the retina screen, but I hate it. It's a terrible browser. I'll stick with Chrome and the crappy scaled graphics, and wait for them to update it with retina support. The Chrome Canary alpha with retina support looks superb.
It can't be set as the default browser. And most of the time my rMBP is connected to an external monitor, so I can wait until it's no longer alpha.
I've neer cared for chrome that much. That being said, although Ive always like safari, that app seems to be getting more inefficient for me. Used to very fast, and in general it still is, but whenever I open it now it makes my hard drive go crazy for a while...?
Not Just Confined To The Mac?
I've got a new PC with the same Intel HD4000 graphics, and I've been getting frequent BSOD while running Chrome. I thought maybe there was a problem with the motherboard or some of my drivers, but now I wonder if this Chrome issue isn't just confined to the Mac...
I've got a new PC with the same Intel HD4000 graphics, and I've been getting frequent BSOD while running Chrome. I thought maybe there was a problem with the motherboard or some of my drivers, but now I wonder if this Chrome issue isn't just confined to the Mac...
Poorly-coded trivial apps can be poorly-coded because there is much less work involved on its development. A 11-year OS (discounting the previous BSD evolution in the 90's) should be more kernel-panic-proof these days.
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Maybe a hardware bug in the HD4000. Hopefully Intel will provide a driver which works around the issue. The good part is that the issue is affecting a lot of users. I remember when I had nVidia graphics cards that crashed in particular configurations/drivers and I'd never got any solution for years.
If everyone is equally good how are you the "best"? Rethink...Not really. You can only be average and still be the best if everyone is equally good. What he really meant was the Safari was maybe "unremarkable", not "average". If the alternatives either suck or are weird, then "average" would mean "it half sucks and is half weird", which was not what the original poster meant.
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Not exactly... I don't think you understand what is being stated. If all entries are identical, there will not be a best. I am speaking as a general principle.
And that, folks, is why Adobe couldn't be trusted with low-level video hardware access for Flash (or anything else, for that matter).
And, in a bit of Schadenfreude, I noticed Adobe finally gave up on Flash for Android installs.
Shantanu Narayen has been a disaster for the great company Adobe once was. The Macromedia deal was a fiasco, but he still refuses to let go of it. I wish he would resign so Adobe that could get back to the stuff that made them great.
And, in a bit of Schadenfreude, I noticed Adobe finally gave up on Flash for Android installs.
Shantanu Narayen has been a disaster for the great company Adobe once was. The Macromedia deal was a fiasco, but he still refuses to let go of it. I wish he would resign so Adobe that could get back to the stuff that made them great.
I love Chrome, but I haven't been using it on my new rMBP because it's not updated for Retina yet.
Uh ? I don't think you understand exactly what is at issue here. Chrome does not do "low-level video hardware access" that should crash your OS. It runs from userspace and accesses hardware through exposed userspace APIs (namely OpenGL).
Adobe did finally get a userspace API to use video decoding hardware, the VDA framework.
If Apple writes its kernel drivers and exposes APIs, it better damn well make sure that input coming from userspace is validated and sanitized before being executed on the hardware or fed into kernel structures.
This is yet another reason I won't be using chrome any time soon.
I steer clear from anything google (apart from gmail for spam, I use @me for my actual email I care about). Because I don't trust google's security statements and how they deal with security of data. This freezing of chrome is just another nail in the coffin for me.
I steer clear from anything google (apart from gmail for spam, I use @me for my actual email I care about). Because I don't trust google's security statements and how they deal with security of data. This freezing of chrome is just another nail in the coffin for me.
Not really. They're probably talking about Quartz Composer plugins they wrote to do the rendering of websites to the NSView in Chrome.
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So an Apple kernel bug is a nail in the coffin of the app ? I don't get it.
This is a flaw in Apple's kernel code. It's not Chrome that's freezing, it's the OS that is panicing.
This is neither a Google or Apple problem. This is shotty Intel graphics drivers causing a Kernel Panic. Graphics drivers are notorious for causing kernel panics/BSODs. Intel really needs to step up their driver development; they're not much better on Windows.
As with OSX, if you force use of a discreet graphics card instead, you should be able to run smoothly till Intel updates their drivers.
As with OSX, if you force use of a discreet graphics card instead, you should be able to run smoothly till Intel updates their drivers.
May I ask why? What are you really missing in Firefox 13?
Anyways, Firefox has been incredibly stable for me these past rapid releases. Much more improvement has been gone into memory management so much so that Firefox uses MUCH less memory than Chrome and it seems so much faster as a result as well. Give Firefox another try. I'm using the bleeding edge version (Firefox 16 UX) and for a pre-alpha version, it is super fast, and most surprisingly, it's so stable. Plus it has Lion goodies like the Lion scrollbars and Fullscreen.
Opera is also another solid offering. I tried Opera 12 and the only thing preventing me really from switching to Opera is the lack of any alternatives to Firefox's amazing array of addons.
I don't really see the appeal of Chrome. I keep it if I want to watch flash videos since I don't like to install Flash on my system and to me, Chrome is much less configurable than either Firefox or Opera and I really don't like some of it's weird quirks.
maybe you should stop acting all big and clever. I don't care about Chrome and the fact of the matter is Chrome is still based on the webkit engine. Deny it as much as you want, but it is in essence the same thing as what Safari is based on. Sure, its been changed by Google etc., but its still based off webkit technologies. Just like you can customise, modify, change and increase the performance of a car as much as you like, but its still gonna be the same make, model and year at the end of the day.
I didn't mean it in the sense of "Chrome is based off webkit, therefore it is 100% identical to Safari, I know there are differences" You just obviously jumped to a conclusion.
I just put my previous comment in a more general context and I stand by it. In that it does have the similar underpinnings to Safari as its based on the same open source project. Whereas IE on the other hand is based on Trident, which I would agree is different, because it is a totally different layout engine.
From my experience chrome is no faster than the nightly builds of webkit what I use. These nightly builds just fly when everything is fully cached in and its great.
The only other browser I use is Firefox for the better optimised 3D support for my 3D display. Safari for whatever reason simply refuses to load into 3D mode, Firefox does it with ease.
I bet you don't remember what IE Macintosh edition was like. Mac OS 8.6 crashed constantly with it and everyone blamed the OS, the browser was discovered to have been the culprit though.
And you really don't know anything about me, what I do or anything. So who are you to prejudge me?
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I'm not acting all "big and clever" I'm merely presenting reality, if you don't like it, file a complaint with God or the Universe or whatever you believe in.