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It's not only new territory, it's outside their core competency. Like Cisco selling cameras or Google selling phones.

Its this closed minded view that separates risk taking leaders from regular employees.

To prove this, all one has to do is look at Apple's success in portions of the tech sector that they previously had not occupied.

Never say never :)
 
Google, Microsoft and Bush are Devils!

For the most part they all work together. Apple Google and Microsoft are all the devils they all work together to form a greater overarching monopoly. It all cost so much because they want it so.
 
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Apple's success is in large part driven by the ecosystem that they have built around iPod/iTunes/iPhone/iPad. Good luck to anyone breaking into that anytime soon. The day I can buy a song on Mac/PC, synch it to my Android phone, then stream it around my home to HiFi or TV then we will have a competitor. Apple knows it, the record companies and studios know it, someone needs to tell Google.
 
In fairness to Google, no one said that they were out to destroy iTunes or anything like that. They've got a growing mobile business, and it makes sense that they want to make some cohesive media store.

Likewise, Apple is trying to grow its online/cloud services (Google's strength)! Funny, they are kind of moving towards each other in that sense...

What does a music store have anything to do with a mobile business.
No one before Apple had a music store that goes along with a mobile business.

It makes sense now because Apple did it.
 
I dislike it when people keep saying that line over and over. Does competition really make products better? Where's the truth in that? If it's truly the case, why do we still see half-baked consumer products for the end user?

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It, like 'the free market always decides best' is simply and literally religious dogma.
Competition as often as not results in a race to the bottom, just as the 'free market' is useless regarding life necessities (e.g. water or health care.)
 
Yes and Palm smartphones and Blackberries never existed before the iPhone.

Name anything that did not build upon previous knowledge.
The 'Apple hasn't invented anything' meme is such nonsense.
Making things usable and desired is probably the biggest invention possible.

And by that what do you mean. iPhones had little impact on phones like the BB Curve

Yeah... And how's that Curve doing?
 
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Next up, Google gives away songs for free. Inserts targeted ads every 30 seconds of music. Fandroids flood the Web to tell us all how awesome Android and "free" Google music are and what a greedy jerk Steve Jobs is for selling songs.

You know it's coming.
 
Apple's success is in large part driven by the ecosystem that they have built around iPod/iTunes/iPhone/iPad. Good luck to anyone breaking into that anytime soon. The day I can buy a song on Mac/PC, synch it to my Android phone, then stream it around my home to HiFi or TV then we will have a competitor. Apple knows it, the record companies and studios know it, someone needs to tell Google.

Spotify?
 
Here's a crazy idea.

Google should buy a few mobile recording studio's. Big busses with good recording equiptment. Have a logo on the side with something like:'Google's search engine looking for talent'. Oh, and some camerateams ('Google streetview' comes to mind...) as well.

Having in mind the succes of Idols, The voice of..., 'discovered' on youtube etc., Google should tour the country/world and record new talent. First, they will have fun content to show (paid perhaps), they can insert some ads, and... if they find talent, offer an exclusive recorddeal and sell that music. A sort of myspace to give new talent some exposure, and making money by selling their music.

Either Google announces ahead where the recording studio will be at, people can line up to show their skills (first time for Google people will actually stand in line for?)... or they announce which streets they will drive thrue and you better be ready with your act or miss the 5-minutes-of-fame-opportunity.

How about that, Google?
 
Is the difference that Apple is more willing to talk to and play ball with the content providers? Is it that Google has "changing its demands"? Is it about technical concerns? Are the content provides trying to guess who the winning horse will be?

Haha, got to laugh when Google get a set back. As an executive a few months ago said about Google, "it's like negotiating with someone who is autistic".

At the end of the day, Google have tramped over the copyright of all the companies it's trying to get a deal from (think YouTube), chances are that it's also trying to negotiate better terms than Apple with little things like giving everyone else worse terms than them (think the books deal), and so forth.

And frankly, what do Google have to offer the record companies that Apple and Amazon don't?

So think about the autistic comment, think about the terms they will be looking for, and you have to conclude that there is no reason that to think the record companies want or need Google as a partner.

Google aren't bringing new subscribers so the chances are, Google are trying to bring prices down, which will ultimately cost the record companies money.
 
iPhone did nothing new. It just took some popular features and combined them. It was more of a game changer due to it being made by apple.

I think you should go watch the keynote of 2007... the iPhone's introduction. I watched it the other day cause I had a little too much time to kill and felt like seeing where we came from.

You don't realize just how incredible the iPhone is until you look back at what we came from.... go ahead, watch it.
 
Next up, Google gives away songs for free. Inserts targeted ads every 30 seconds of music. Fandroids flood the Web to tell us all how awesome Android and "free" Google music are and what a greedy jerk Steve Jobs is for selling songs.

You know it's coming.

I just want to sync my music. **** itunes **** what ever. I love bit torrent. I refuse to pay for music or movies.
 
Let us not compare Apples to turds.

Black berries now touch screen phones are really good. I loved my black berry... Hell i miss it. RIM makes a great smart phone, they are still holding strong to the one thing google and apple want most: Enterprise. ( I think if it ever leaves RIM it will go to Windows Phone.
 
Next up, Google gives away songs for free. Inserts targeted ads every 30 seconds of music. Fandroids flood the Web to tell us all how awesome Android and "free" Google music are and what a greedy jerk Steve Jobs is for selling songs.

You know it's coming.

What are you basing this on, the current ststus of Android OS for being FOSS? There are no advertising components built into Android OS, unlike iOS with iAds. What's made you insinuate this "free" thing as being a negative anyway?

I bet there are plenty of people who use ad supported music serivces like we7.com and spotify free, and god forbid those tight arses who listten to free music on the radio. Are these people inferior to you for doing so?
 
Record companies should count themselves lucky that there's an iTunes, Spotify and others offering paid services - otherwise 99.999999999% would be pirating all music and they wouldn't make a dime.

Gone are the days where they can charge £14 for a CD album and filling it with 12 crap songs and 1 decent song. People see through the BS and choose to bypass physical music buying and just cherry pick the tunes that they like.
 
Apple's success is in large part driven by the ecosystem that they have built around iPod/iTunes/iPhone/iPad. Good luck to anyone breaking into that anytime soon. The day I can buy a song on Mac/PC, synch it to my Android phone, then stream it around my home to HiFi or TV then we will have a competitor. Apple knows it, the record companies and studios know it, someone needs to tell Google.

What a shame. I really like Android OS but one of my biggest complaints by far is the lack of a solid service to sync and play music with my phone/tablet.

already exists - Amazon Cloud/Music Player
 
i don't even know why people bring up the apple ecosystem. this has nothing to do with that. of course deals like this will run into multiple renegotiations, as you have the majors all trying to come up with mutual agreements within themselves first, which can be a long drawn out process in the corporate world. this is not just google going on a one on one meeting. the music industry today has changed from just a year ago with record labels trying to come up with new ways to reinvent the industry, as sales have continued to decline. it's more important now that they come up with a more beneficial deal when it comes to digital sales.
 
Try again

I bet Google try to sell to the label the idea of free advertisement supported music, and Google get to keep 70% of the revenue.:eek:

Fat chance in hell.:D
 
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