Google Has Not Yet Submitted a Google Maps App to Apple [Update]

[Rodimus Prime]

How can you make your maps "useable" without people using them and providing feedback? Like learning to ride a bike: eventually you have to yank off the training wheels - and expect some rough going immediately afterwards.

Does no one remember how incomplete Google maps once were?

Can no one acknowledge how incomplete Google maps still are?

Minus the fact that Apple maps are behind by a decade. Basic QA should of known that. But it would not be the first time Apple ignored their QA department for marketing. The developers and the QA department both knew it was not ready for prime time.
Do not forget during the beta people were screaming that the maps were crap. I called it then that it was a clear sign how bad it was.

 

[Emathieu]

Where do you get 100 million?

As of the other day - they pegged it somewhere between 15-20 percent install base. On 400million devices - at max that would be 80 million. And that's assuming that the install base % is correct according to web traffic. And it also takes into consideration the units sold.

From Apple - it is in the first sentence of the press release announcement.

Is Google worried? Hard to say. They can always submit an App and it would be very welcome by many users - IF it gets approved by Apple.

And Android's install base is pretty large still and growing.

I think Google is paying close attention. I'm just not sure I believe they are really "worried."

I expect Apple will approve a new Google Maps app. And I agree that Android's base is still growing, but to lose that many users is still not good for them.

I think that originally Google probably just wasn't ready with the app initially, and now will choose to let the bad press about Apple's Maps fester a bit. I don't blame them for that, it is actually a pretty smart move.

 

[tigress666]

Heh, if Google really wanted to give a boost to Android, all they have to do is wait to submit the app for a few months.

Even better, do what Page is doing now, don't admit whether you have or haven't submitted the app and imply it's up to Apple to approve it. That way you can make it look like Apple is the one delaying it (totally not saying this is what is happening, just saying Apple left themselves wide open for Google to do something like this).

 

[deannnnn]

I don't think it's Google's fault at all. He said that Google talks to Apple "every day." What are they talking about every day? Apple's probably telling them not to bother making a Google Maps app because they won't approve it.

 

[engg2000]

...Most of the people I know who own an iPhone are not "techies" and most of them made the mistake of saying "Yes" when their iPhone prompted them to update.
They're now pretty p***ed off and some of them are considering getting another phone

Ha ha ha ha....
Hilarious, just stop crying and go to maps.google.com and install it on your home screen. It very similar with the same map quality.

you whiners are killing me...

can't stop laughing.

 

[samcraig]

Ha ha ha ha....
Hilarious, just stop crying and go to maps.google.com and install it on your home screen. It very similar with the same map quality.

you whiners are killing me...

can't stop laughing.

You don't get it. It's ok - if you bothered to read this thread you might understand more why your solution isn't a one-size-fits-all

 

[seven2k7]

"I'm surprised Google haven't moved quicker on this, if they wait too long then they will lose momentum from the iOS 6 launch. People might actually.... and I have some difficulty saying this.... get used to Apple Maps!"

SO its Google lost not Apples lost. Look at you guy scattering for GMaps. Most retarded **** ever!!

 

[igazza]

Didn't Apple buy a few mapping companies last year? I don't think they would accept google maps app.

 

[samcraig]

Well this didn't take long, did it...

And yes - it's a real ad...

 

[engg2000]

You don't get it. It's ok - if you bothered to read this thread you might understand more why your solution isn't a one-size-fits-all

Why, does your google maps fly you to the moon? My old Google maps gave me directions and allowed my to look at where I am. Google maps in the browser gives me directions and let me see where I am. Anything else? Bus route? yes, walking routes, yes.

Anyway, Apple maps haven't been wrong yet and the turn by turn for me hasn't had any issues at all, in fact its easier to use and not have to look at now that verbal directions are available.

By the way, the only reason Google maps is now reliable is that people correct problems.
I've sent in about half a dozen Google map corrections starting even before I had a smart phone.

 

[rak007]

Where is the google now type (siri clone) app that google has submitted to apple ? I had seen it ad long time before but the app is yet to be approved.


Btw it would be great if apple went VLC way, get Google Maps and Google Voice / Now / Whatever available through cydia

 

[doelcm82]

So you admit that Apple has replaced a superior product (app) that is several years behind what was already in place. Is that correct?

That is not correct.

• Vector Maps
• Flyover - 3D Buildings
• Turn by turn navigation with speech
• In-App feedback

None of those features were part of the app that was already in place.

The app itself is more advanced than the old app. The data in the cloud is where the problems are, and that means they can be fixed without users having to update the app.

 

[d21mike]

Why, does your google maps fly you to the moon? My old Google maps gave me directions and allowed my to look at where I am. Google maps in the browser gives me directions and let me see where I am. Anything else? Bus route? yes, walking routes, yes.

Anyway, Apple maps haven't been wrong yet and the turn by turn for me hasn't had any issues at all, in fact its easier to use and not have to look at now that verbal directions are available.

By the way, the only reason Google maps is now reliable is that people correct problems.
I've sent in about half a dozen Google map corrections starting even before I had a smart phone.

You and I and others like us may just be wasting our time. The new Maps App is far superior to the old Maps App when using it for Navigation which is clearly what Apple intended. For those that do not need it for that can use your suggestion. For me I purchased Navigon because the old Maps App was useless for my purpose. Now that I have the new Maps App I have stopped using Navigon. I suspect that in a few months this will be old news as a majority of the 100 million that downloaded it will start using it and will not have the bias of the few nay sayers on here.

 

[Iam3rd]

I pray the day will never come when a poor soul has to rely on Maps to find their lost iOS device. I used it once and Google Maps pinpointed my iPhone's location exactly.

On Maps the location is more like, "you are getting warmer. It's somewhere in this area."

 

[theluggage]

So is Google is going to submit a iOS 6 version of Google maps that has the turn-by-turn navigation deactivated like the version in iOS 5. No turn-by-turn, no thanks.

First, the iOS 5 App wasn't written by Google, it was an Apple-written client for Google's servers. It certainly wasn't google's android Maps app with turn-by-turn disabled. Why Apple couldn't add that, or switch to Google's vector maps, is something that Tim Cook and Eric Schmidt and Tim Cook know and we don't, but its difficult to comprehend why a sackload of money and maybe dropping a few lawsuits couldn't solve the problem.

Second, if you like turn-by-turn so much that you'd sacrifice, accurate, detailed maps, decent satellite imagery, street view, public transport routing, localised road colour-coding, then good for you. Personally, I can't see the use of turn-by-turn if it isn't based on solid mapping data.

I think some of the people who seem to like Apple Maps (i.e. those people who didn't start up Maps, go to their home location and find it underwater or, on satellite view, obscured by clouds) are going to have a nasty shock when they actually go on a trip to somewhere they don't already know.

Open your eyes and look at the examples that are being posted: it's not like AntennaGate or FrayedCableGate where you had to take people's word for it that they didn't live in a cave or abuse their cables: the cloud-shrouded areas, the city blocks with missing detail, the useless recommendations for public transport apps, the absensce of street view... they're all in plain sight.

 

[Duncan-UK]

That is not correct.

• Vector Maps
• Flyover - 3D Buildings
• Turn by turn navigation with speech
• In-App feedback

None of those features were part of the app that was already in place.

The app itself is more advanced than the old app. The data in the cloud is where the problems are, and that means they can be fixed without users having to update the app.

Yes but its crap here and now and why should people have to put up with this from a company whose image is all about a superior hardware and software combination.

Vector maps and flyovers dont mean a thing if it cant get the basics right.

The ceaseless apologia for a real screw up really shows how some apple fans are incapable of "thinking different"

 

[mackinmike]

That is not correct.

• Vector Maps
• Flyover - 3D Buildings
• Turn by turn navigation with speech
• In-App feedback

None of those features were part of the app that was already in place.

The app itself is more advanced than the old app. The data in the cloud is where the problems are, and that means they can be fixed without users having to update the app.

flyover is useless unless you're landing a jet, swinging in as spiderman or flying in as superman. streetview is more practical.

 

[576316]

Apple may have been moronic enough to replace a very good Maps app with one that wasn't finished. But they're not moronic enough to allow Google to still replace it with a downloadable app because everyone would use that instead. Apple will avoid allowing Google to release a maps app on iOS.

 

[KnightWRX]

The data in the cloud is where the problems are, and that means they can be fixed without users having to update the app.

Sure, but it also means that the problem is probably much deeper and harder to fix. A couple of Objective-C front end bugs would be one thing, correcting a multi-terabyte if not petabyte database that might have been imported with off-by-1 bugs or other problems is another.

Not to mention spell checking and correcting the entries which are misspelled.

 

[samcraig]

Why, does your google maps fly you to the moon? My old Google maps gave me directions and allowed my to look at where I am. Google maps in the browser gives me directions and let me see where I am. Anything else? Bus route? yes, walking routes, yes.

Anyway, Apple maps haven't been wrong yet and the turn by turn for me hasn't had any issues at all, in fact its easier to use and not have to look at now that verbal directions are available.

By the way, the only reason Google maps is now reliable is that people correct problems.
I've sent in about half a dozen Google map corrections starting even before I had a smart phone.

So you also admit Apple's maps is years behind. Ok.

What you don't get or understand is that Apple's Maps is a core App which permeates throughout the OS. Meaning - any App that needs/uses maps now calls upon Apple's maps by default and will only pull data from Apple's maps (for now).

If you don't see or understand the inherent problem with this - I can't explain it further.

That is not correct.

• Vector Maps
• Flyover - 3D Buildings
• Turn by turn navigation with speech
• In-App feedback

None of those features were part of the app that was already in place.

The app itself is more advanced than the old app. The data in the cloud is where the problems are, and that means they can be fixed without users having to update the app.

And with bad data - those features are useless.

You and I and others like us may just be wasting our time. The new Maps App is far superior to the old Maps App when using it for Navigation which is clearly what Apple intended. For those that do not need it for that can use your suggestion. For me I purchased Navigon because the old Maps App was useless for my purpose. Now that I have the new Maps App I have stopped using Navigon. I suspect that in a few months this will be old news as a majority of the 100 million that downloaded it will start using it and will not have the bias of the few nay sayers on here.

How is the new maps superior? When used for navigation (as many have reported) the location is miles off or not even on a road. We are talking about today's problem - not tomorrow's potential. As launched/forced upon with the iPhone 5 - Apple's maps is a problem.

It's ok to admit that it's a problem. It's also more than ok to admit that YOUR use case has been unaffected but that it's unfortunate that OTHERS are having problems and/or issues with Apple maps. It won't make you a bad guy. Apple won't come over and steal your stuff. And more importantly - it might make you appear as if you understand that your use case does not equate to the entire worlds.

 

[chagla]

Google is in no rush whatsoever to submit map app for ios. i think eventually they will submit an app and apple will delay.

 

[a0me]

Ha ha ha ha....
Hilarious, just stop crying and go to maps.google.com and install it on your home screen. It very similar with the same map quality.

you whiners are killing me...

can't stop laughing.

Hey dumbo, you realize that native apps are not the same thing as web apps?
How can anyone with half a brain find that losing basic functionality is somehow a good thing?

Quick fact: right after the earthquake in Japan last year, I -and many others- were relieved to find that the Maps app was working even when you couldn't access the web version. I don't know about the inner workings of the app, just that native apps work better; and in a situation like that I'd rather have something that works.

 

[a0me]

It can't be useless, otherwise I would also have trouble with it.

Maybe the app works in your little corner of the world, but it obviously doesn't for millions of people.

Sounds like they just wanted an excuse.

http://bit.ly/QvH9ci

Did you miss the part were I mentioned "non techie people"?

 

[samcraig]

The (perhaps) ironic thing in this thread is that people who are demanding more from Apple will be labeled as haters by some vs the ones that don't expect more/better from Apple are the "fans."

This simply doesn't compute.

 

[DiamondMac]

The (perhaps) ironic thing in this thread is that people who are demanding more from Apple will be labeled as haters by some vs the ones that don't expect more/better from Apple are the "fans."

This simply doesn't compute.

This pretty much sums up every Apple argument on here during/after release date of a major product