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Google Has Not Yet Submitted a Google Maps App to Apple [Update]
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I'm in the same boat, except that I didn't update to iOS 6 because of what I heard about Maps during Beta.
Most of the people I know who own an iPhone are not "techies" and most of them made the mistake of saying "Yes" when their iPhone prompted them to update.
They're now pretty p***ed off and some of them are considering getting another phone (for those of you who think they're crazy, people with an iPhone 4 (like me) are usually at the end of their 2-year contract, about to upgrade to a new phone; people with an iPhone 4S can get an Android phone from last year almost for free).
Myself, I'd like to avoid having to get an Android or Windows Phone as my next phone, and at the moment it looks like my best option if I get an iPhone 5 is to jailbreak it and hope that the iPhone Dev-Team has managed to get the Google Maps app run on iOS 6.
It will still probably lack important features like indoor maps, offline maps and 3D maps, but at least the maps are accurate.
A lot of groups out there will have access to you personal info because a lot of services require your personal data. It really depends on how trusted and secure you think the group is. All my most important info are with various banks. I trust them and don't worry about it. I am signed up with a lot of websites and they have my personal info. I trust them and don't worry about it. I trust Google so I don't worry. You gotta trust the company that handles your email, or else never use email, because thats a lot of exposure.
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Thank you for making my point. You are absolutely right. The Apple version of google maps was useless in regards to voice turn by turn navigation. That is why I welcome the much improved Apple Maps.
For people that need the Google Map Data for Transit or other purposes why not use map.google.com and allow us who really need a good Navigation App enjoy this new app. Seems like a Win Win!
For those that disagree please explain what is missing with map.google.com. Since I have no need for transit data maybe it is just not there. Thanks.
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This is Apple's own fault for giving us a beta app. Google doesn't owe us iPhone users anything, but it's Apple who does. Stupid Apple!
This is Apple's own fault for giving us a beta app. Google doesn't owe us iPhone users anything, but it's Apple who does. Stupid Apple!
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Jasmine, its a youtube client by the guy who made AlienBlue. Its pretty fantastic. Works on iPad and iPhone and is free. http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/jasmine-youtube-client/id554937050?mt=8
How can you make your maps "useable" without people using them and providing feedback? Like learning to ride a bike: eventually you have to yank off the training wheels - and expect some rough going immediately afterwards.
Does no one remember how incomplete Google maps once were?
Can no one acknowledge how incomplete Google maps still are?
Google stuff is always "beta."
but building a large image database takes time...Remember all those Google trucks?..
And were Google maps already "live" before all those Google trucks started roaming the countryside? Of course they were.
To me the big question is why didn't Apple do this 3 years ago when they should have?
Someday we'll be asking the same question about search.
Sorry, how many Google Apps are paid?! None. They are all free. Do a quick search for, say 'Gmail' on the appstore, then view developer info - there's about 15 apps, all free and without adverts.
It's this kind of apathy about Google's reach and what Google could ultimately do with all that data that's truly terrifying.
It's amazing how completely consumers have been snowed by Google in the public perception of their intentions.
Lets look at this logically, bear with me.
You download a google app (for arguments sake, lets say you download Google Earth to your iPhone).
What information are Google selling there? Bearing in mind that they cant collect any personal info from your phone as it's not only blocked, but would get flagged when Apple review the app, so the only info they have access to is whatever you write in the app, plus your location (again, if you allow it).
So here's what info they get in this example:
- Your Location
- Your IP
Now, lets say they use that to show ads for a local business, how exactly is that detrimental to your life?
Sorry, I have to ask this because we get some crazy people here who have it in their heads that Google is farming out your personal details to crap loads of dodgy 3rd parties, when in fact Google dont actually pass any data outside - why would they need to? All they need is your location and then it'll serve Google Ads.
and FYI, iAds does the exact same thing.
Very well put, also Google mines all the position, search and who knows what else data from those Android handsets (they can monitor everything from them including your actions with the dialer, wifi and bluetooth for example).
There's another aspect in all this. At this point, Apple is looking ugly giving us this Map App that, for a big chunk of the world, is not very good compared to the old one that used Google Data.
But if Google just sits back and says we're not going to make and submit an iOS Map app - they seriously risk loosing their current savior position in the PR wars here with iOS users (who want a google Map App) and risk looking like the bad guy here (which would be a big misstep on their part).
Google would get much bigger benefits from producing a fully functional App and getting all that user data, than not doing a Map App and just getting a few additional Android users. Most people that might flee iOS would probably go for the more refined looking and secure (locked down store like Apple) WP platform instead of wild old Android. JMHO...
How can you make your maps "useable" without people using them and providing feedback? Like learning to ride a bike: eventually you have to yank off the training wheels - and expect some rough going immediately afterwards.
Does no one remember how incomplete Google maps once were?
Can no one acknowledge how incomplete Google maps still are?
Google stuff is always "beta."
And were Google maps already "live" before all those Google trucks started roaming the countryside? Of course they were.
To me the big question is why didn't Apple do this 3 years ago when they should have?
Someday we'll be asking the same question about search.
So you admit that Apple has replaced a superior product (app) that is several years behind what was already in place. Is that correct?
It's amazing how completely consumers have been snowed by Apple in the public perception of their intentions.
See how that works?
Apple has the same capacity to do what Google does. If you want to fear the personal use of data - do so equally.
Free because it gets you using their ad-supported services...the same as Facebook, Pinterest, Twitter, etc.
Shocking isnt it...people making money from adverts instead of charging you directly...how dare they!
Why???..
Why?? Google exists for one reason and one reason only, to make money. The same as Apple and every other company. They won't pull everything from Apple because that would cost them $. Simple as that.
Why?? Google exists for one reason and one reason only, to make money. The same as Apple and every other company. They won't pull everything from Apple because that would cost them $. Simple as that.
You could have gone a lot longer before going public and still have enough stuff to improve. If you have to include black white satellite images from years ago, you have a pretty good indicator that your service is not ready for primetime.
The same can be said for the search which is just not working well. I don't know if it is so much worse here in Europe, but how about Apple includes a team of Apple EU devs and gets them working on it too .. that can all be done before having to go primetime.
And finally to stay with your bike analogy. Tim Cook must be the only guy in the world that takes the training wheels off and instantly goes on a cross wood downhill mountain bike rally. How about launching it to the developers for another year and keep Google Maps for the rest of us. Or how about setting up a simple website people may use before forcing it on millions of peoples phones/tablets.
You are right though .. Apple maps is in its early days and just like google maps was not that great in the beginning, Apple will get better and in a couple years maps will work just fine. I just don't get why they had to rush it out the door so quickly instead of taking the time to get it right.
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It can't be useless, otherwise I would also have trouble with it. Yes, some POI's aren't quite in the right place, but a mapping application is not just about POI's. Address, postcode searches work fine, the maps look good, the turn by turn directions work well.
I relied on Apple maps to get me to a hotel in Chippenham, from the hotel to a wetherspoons for dinner, then back to the hotel a couple of weeks ago. If it was "completely useless" surely that would have failed me.
By no means is it perfect, I fully accept that, it DOES need a lot of improvement, but to go so far as to say that iOS6 users are left without mapping is a ****ing ridiculous thing to say. Not only is Apple Maps on there, Google Maps is still available from the browser. Waze is available in the app store. The lack of a Google Maps in iOS6 at the moment is little more than an inconvenience at the moment.
Sounds like they just wanted an excuse.
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I am amazed at the amount of people in this thread that aren't blindly leaping to Apple's defense here. Am I on MacRumors? Of course today some fanboys seem to be coming out of the woodwork.
Considering the flawed YouTube app they put out, it's probably best Google wait until they have an app that is complete. (Hmmm, sounds like Apple with Maps)
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So Maps.google.com on the iPhone won't work? I can get peoples beloved bus directions on it! I sometimes have apps open in safari google maps... So what is the problem? Also does this mean that people cant look up bus schedules and read paper maps? We survived on that before and now we are so dependent on digital its not funny. If google closed tomorrow (I know that wont happen but as an example) then what would you do? Would you have mass panic or have a backup plan? It seems people dependent on google maps have no back up app or plan what so ever.
So Maps.google.com on the iPhone won't work? I can get peoples beloved bus directions on it! I sometimes have apps open in safari google maps... So what is the problem? Also does this mean that people cant look up bus schedules and read paper maps? We survived on that before and now we are so dependent on digital its not funny. If google closed tomorrow (I know that wont happen but as an example) then what would you do? Would you have mass panic or have a backup plan? It seems people dependent on google maps have no back up app or plan what so ever.