I don't think anymore than the direction that WhatsApp is going if they incorporate VOIP though...
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I don't think anymore than the direction that WhatsApp is going if they incorporate VOIP though...
I actually like the look of the Steel. It's the only smartwatch I'd consider wearing besides a Martian Watch. They also made a bunch of smart design decisions other OEM's didn't, such as that ePaper display. If you need to know the time, it's always visible, you don't have to swipe or tap or hit buttons. Basically what you'd expect from a regular watch plus more.
Biggest thing I'm curious about is the 360's battery life. The Moto X works well because it has a speech coprocessor, but that's a constant battery drain. Then you have screen, probably a motion coprocessor for running, maybe GPS and I wonder if they'll be able to get more than a day out of it.
Same here. I ended up ordering a Steel because I really have no clue what a smartwatch would be used for and I'm curious.
Yeah, my wife loved iGoogle because we were able to set up a custom dashboard homescreen for her on our kitchen big screen touch computer.
Apparently very few people used iGoogle, though, so it finally got dropped.
I think that the Moto 360 does what some other smartwatches do: turn on the time display when you lift your arm to look.
If true, I think it's a slight limitation, as sometimes I don't want to lift my arm to see what's going on.
I think it's far more important, though, to make sure their display works well in sunlight... however they do it.
I agree with you. Google does a lot more out in the open to push and see what is possible. If people think that's failing, I'm afraid to think of what they think of people like Albert Einstein and Michelangelo. Guess haw many times they made things that failed.
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You're the first person I've heard say Siri is better than Google Now. Could you please provide a few examples. Much appreciated.
Also, Google Voice is NOT going to get axed at all. Merged with Hangouts with all the same functionality, yes. You'll still be able to use GV like you always have. Now it'll just be in one nice app.
Hey different strokes and all. It just seems cheapy, like it's trying to be a high end watch but it's not. It's got that JCPenney on sale look. I think the epaper display is horrible, but I'm a terrible person to ask this opinion of as I like displays like the Gear that have all the bells and whistles. I agree though that the time and notifications being always on is important. I think there is a watch out there with 2 screens, one of them being on all the time and not sucking up battery.
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Keep in mind I said Siri is a much better personal assistant than Google Now. I love Google Now, but don't use it as much as a personal assistant, it has its time and place. The problem with Google Now as a personal assistant is it values an internet search way too much. The example I always use is when I say "Call Mario" I always get an internet search of Super Mario Bros, lol.
Search for an app and you get an internet search, and at the bottom when you scroll down then you can see installed apps which match the search. I have a ton more examples, but have already posted them and don't feel like posting them again. Keep in mind this is as a personal assistant. Google kind of leaves that up to the phone manufacturer, to things like S-Voice for example. The only problem is that assistants like S-Voice suck. I'd LOVE for Google to step up to the plate, as they have been doing with other things, and make Google Now a strong personal assistant that would be the default on ANY android device.
I understand it's not meant as a personal assistant, I just think it would be so awesome if it was. But I do love Google Now and use it often. But that's one of the reasons my main phone is an iphone, and my secondary phone/"tablet" is an Android phone.
GV is getting axed. Some features may make their way into Hangouts, but no one knows which features will, or how things like transcriptions, messages, etc etc will be handled. It's a bit premature to complain about it though, I agree. Have to wait and see what happens. But Google seems like a company that goes in full force, then stops about 80% of the way and lets things linger for years before addressing them, or just axing the app/program/functionality.
It's also what causes google phones to suck when it comes to software updates. OS fragmentation is not a good thing-that is what I was referring to.
Of course i do, but its nothing when compared to the os Frag of the android platform. I experienced it firsthand for a few years before i could use an upgrade to get an iPhone on my provider. I had a droid incredible, and i actually really liked it for a bit after I got it, but support quickly lagged after only a few months. It's nexus hardware identical counterpart was always several months ahead of it where updates and patches were concerned once the new android whatever came out every 5 seconds. I was always very behind in updates, and it made no sense to me because my phone was less than a year old. It really is a very different world when we are talking os fragmentation.
I have the original 5 and it shows no signs of support loss at this point, which is far longer than my android experience. I know a lot of folks that still have 4's and 4s's that are still trucking along just fine.
My point was while innovation is very important, farming out a hardware platform to several different manufactures, who in turn sell them to various providers, is not always such a good idea for the end user. Each manufacturer has their software patch and then each provider does their version, so by the time u get it on ur phone it could be months later.
The only android i would ever consider owning would be a nexus. For the reasons i described above. While a couple of manufacturers make the nexus, it's never at the same time for the same model.
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So cheap and Tacky, it needed Google maps to rescue iOS.. I surely get it. Do you?
I like free and I do not mind my info to be shared (You obviously do not know how advt works so I am not going to spend time educating you.. Do that on your own time) for free and excellent products (Search and you will see that the iOS apps crash a lot more than Android Apps - There goes cheap and tacky argument). I am glad you have money to spend on expensive junk which crashes more than my free better OS.. but that is your prerogative..
So cheap and Tacky, it needed Google maps to rescue iOS.. I surely get it. Do you?
I like free and I do not mind my info to be shared (You obviously do not know how advt works so I am not going to spend time educating you.. Do that on your own time) for free and excellent products (Search and you will see that the iOS apps crash a lot more than Android Apps - There goes cheap and tacky argument). I am glad you have money to spend on expensive junk which crashes more than my free better OS.. but that is your prerogative..
Fragmentation - which most consumers don't "suffer" from on Android is becoming increasingly non-existent as Google has changed the way Play Services and the OS are updated.
I think the whole fragmentation "argument" is mostly a non-issue - whether it's iOS or Android.
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What data has Google sold and to what 3rd party do you refer.
You do realize that Google's privacy policy (and EULA) are almost identical to Apple's right.
You (specifically) constantly spread this fud on the forums - even after you've been corrected over and over.
The question is - why do you keep doing it if you know it's a lie? What are you so afraid of?
I think the whole fragmentation "argument" is mostly a non-issue - whether it's iOS or Android.
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What data has Google sold and to what 3rd party do you refer.
You do realize that Google's privacy policy (and EULA) are almost identical to Apple's right.
You (specifically) constantly spread this fud on the forums - even after you've been corrected over and over.
The question is - why do you keep doing it if you know it's a lie? What are you so afraid of?
Wow, your analysis of the situation is a total fail. Google almost certainly sold Motorola in order to appease the other large Android OEMs by avoiding even the appearance of a conflict of interest.
And Lenovo are doing very very well from their PCs:
http://www.pcworld.com/article/2086561/lenovo-widens-lead-as-pc-market-decline-slows.html
And they have just bought the x86 server division from IBM... they are well on track to become the largest supplier of both x86 PCs and servers in the world and with Motorola, they have a good chance of gaining some real market share in phones.
No one said they were lying. Or making up stuff.
I only said it doesn't mean anything.
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The interesting discussion is how so many posters don't distinguish between products that are out and aren't out in the market or products that are accepted in the market or those that haven't found a market yet.
That's the interesting part.
The dumb watch isn't that interesting.
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Yeah doing well for a kickstarter isn't the same thing as mainstream acceptance.
General consensus is smartwatches haven't proved themselves yet at all.
Well I said Apple was showing off a real product. Not a fake one.
You are too naive about the FCC secrecy. And you imply that I said that they were outed by the FCC. I didn't say that. I said they filed which meant the clock was ticking. Apple wanted to control any outflow of information. They didn't want the FCC to control it.
As you said I'm sure there were other pressures. Leaks in general. But I think that's a big one.
This notion there all these demos of smartphones in 2006 doesn't ring right. I don't think Android etc would have been caught off guard so much if these other phones were out there. Also love how you say Apple demonstrated a semi-working product yet don't attach that label to these supposed capacitive touchscreen phones being demoed in 2006.
And I don't think Apple is that concerned about being first to market. That flies in the face of what Apple is all about which is getting the product right from the get go. I'm not saying there wouldn't have been some concern there to announce a feature first, but ...
I would think Apple execs would acknowledge this as a pressure by now if it was true. Did I miss this when I read his biography? Or in the other materials that I've read?
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No, what you said was "More BS...". Well that's how your post read after you edited it.
Maybe you need to stop using "BS" and use more precise wording? People might understand you better?
Oh yeah, and resist the urge to edit your posts. I notice someone mentioned that earlier. I'm sure it's all done innocently, but it undermines your credibility on an online forum, especially when you respond to posts months later.
Google and Apple are late to the market with wearable tech. Does anyone remember the Motorola StarTAC being marketed as the first wearable phone back in the mid 90's? I do.
Here's the owners manual. Check the last sentence on the first page.
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/manuals/StarTAC3000_User_Manual_E.pdf
This was a cool phone.
Here's the owners manual. Check the last sentence on the first page.
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/manuals/StarTAC3000_User_Manual_E.pdf
This was a cool phone.
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Google and Apple are late to the market with wearable tech. Does anyone remember the Motorola StarTAC being marketed as the first wearable phone back in the mid 90's? I do.
Here's the owners manual. Check the last sentence on the first page.
http://www.motorola.com/mdirect/manuals/StarTAC3000_User_Manual_E.pdf
This was a cool phone.
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Ive still got a boxed one at the back of the cupboard!
Isn't some fragmentation inevitable? The point is to keep it to a minimum. Could you produce a fragmentation infographic for Android as easily?
No, it would be huge with 1000's of incompatible devices.
How do Android developers chose a version to support?
Thats moving the goal posts though.
Apple fans used to take great glory in that ios wasnt fragmented, now it seems its acceptable as long as its kept to a minimum.
Heres an interesting article you might like to read.
http://www.phonearena.com/news/New-...rts-are-just-as-flawed-as-the-term_id50332#2-