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For previous users of SkyDrive, even if it was only one OneNote file like it was for me, there is an upgrade to 25GB for free button. Dunno if it's limited time but you had to be a user before April 22nd.
 
Apple is not tucking you in at night. They data mine just like the rest of them.

Nuts? Obviously mining data is part of the business, not for the same reasons though. One thing is to want to know what your customer wants/is using and so on and so forth, so you can offer something and avery different things is when core of your business is mine data, sell ads and whatnot.
 
No wrong thread

I think you're in the wrong thread.

No I'm not ... this thread is about google, dropbox, microsoft replacing iDisk. I'm pointing out some deficiencies of Dropbox as currently implemented so that those who choose to go that way can anticipate the experience better.
 
This is great news, more competition for Dropbox hopefully means more innovation and better pricing.

I'm sticking with Dropbox (for now) because it seems to be the most widely available (within apps) and multi-platform file sync method.
 
apple is out of the cloud party with the half baked "storage" feature of icloud that doesn't work... After all this talk about data centers, and cloud, and this and that, they have delivered a very mediocre service, worse even than their own mm in terms of its power (no keychain sync, no idisk) albeit not as horribly buggy and dysfunctional. I guess when your product doesn't do much to begin with it can be that buggy.



Very good point, but unfortunately apple is making it easy for them.


Idisk was the single buggiest piece of **** product i have ever used, third party apps made it half work, but in the finder it was as frustrating a user experience as it can be. No wonder sj joked you gonna trust us with icloud when we brought you mobileme?

amen
 
and they'll scan all of your personal files

aggregate the information

and sell you advertising based on your demographic

google = evil
 
My issue with Dropbox is that if I want to send a big file to someone - not "collaborate" on it - then the person has to remember to move it out of the Dropbox shared folder, or I have to remember to delete it from the Public folder (and ask the person whether they downloaded it before I delete it) to regain that storage space. With an email, you simply send the email and you know the person got it, and you don't keep a copy of the file either.

I also don't like that Dropbox requires you to actually MOVE or COPY files into the Dropbox folder - you can't just link files already on your hard drive. So if you want to stick to your own file structure, you have to copy files to Dropbox, which means it takes up duplicate Hard Drive space.
 
DropBox

Here's a concern I have about something like DropBox, etc.: If you grant an app access to your DropBox account then won't it have access to all of your files stored there? What's to stop that app from accessing say your 1Password database? It seems to me all of these "cloud" storage solutions need to give more thought to sandboxing and security.
 
I've never used iCloud. Does it do any of this or anything similar to DropBox? In terms of syncing files across computers, and accessing them on the web, like Dropbox, does iCloud do that?
 
Here's a concern I have about something like DropBox, etc.: If you grant an app access to your DropBox account then won't it have access to all of your files stored there? What's to stop that app from accessing say your 1Password database? It seems to me all of these "cloud" storage solutions need to give more thought to sandboxing and security.

You do realize that your 1password database is encrypted, right? You can hand out your 1password file to everyone, and it will still take them centuries to break the encryption (provided your password is complex enough).
 
soon i will need to write all my cloud storages down lol

i got dropbox for uni (19 GB), skydrive (25 GB) for personal things and i got iCloud for keeping my stuff on my iPad/Mac/iPhone in sync.

oh yea i also got iTunes Match, but i only use it to upgrade my songs to better quality ^^ Google Music has the better listening experience imo and doesnt mess up the cover art.

will check googles cloud out for sure as well ^^


I've never used iCloud. Does it do any of this or anything similar to DropBox? In terms of syncing files across computers, and accessing them on the web, like Dropbox, does iCloud do that?

iCloud is different, you cant actually store any data on it. its basically just to keep your stuff on all your apple devices up to date
 
People used iDisk?

I did, and it was the #1 reason why I used iTools/.Mac/MobileMe for so many years. It is also the reason that I held off from converting my old MobileMe account to iCloud, since I originally assumed that I would lose access to iDisk once I converted (this assumption was incorrect, iDisk is still available until it is turned off in several months).

I'm still trying to find something comparable. I loved having the WebDAV access, so I could store files, without having to sync a bunch of files between multiple computers.

Are there any good recommendations for WebDAV services, similar to iDisk? I'm not referring to sync services such as Dropbox (which is quite nice), but a service where I can connect to a network disk to copy files.
 
Apple is not tucking you in at night. They data mine just like the rest of them.

The question isn't data mining. Every company does that with their customer data. The question is to what extent do they share it with third-parties and use it for profit? I'm willing to bet that there's a huge difference when it comes to the use of customer data when comparing a company whose profits come primarily from selling actual, physical products and companies like Google and Facebook who derive most of their revenue from advertising and marketing.

What on earth does Apple have to gain by selling off their customer data to third-parties a la Google and Facebook? Nothing. It could be easily argued that keeping such data private gives them a distinct competitive advantage.
 
I already have 25GB Skydrive (although I didn't know I even had a Skydrive until yesterday), 50GB Box.com, and 2GB Dropbox so don't think I need anymore more for now. I'm not in the habit of feeding Google more persona data. ;) However, since none of these options provide total security (where only I can decrypt), I only use them for less personal data.
 
If the SDK is utilized so gamesaves and app data are saved on Google Drive I'll be very impressed. Steam cloud sync makes gaming on supported games fantastic on PC for me (Civilization V being my favourite)

http://9to5google.com/2012/04/24/google-releases-sdk-for-integrating-web-apps-with-google-drive/

To be able to log in to my Google account and have app & game data available to all my connected devices would be great across my Android phones and tablet.

I hope it happens.
 
C'mon Apple!

I guess Apple had no backup plan after DropBox told them they are not forsale... seems like every file storage option out there is far superior to iCloud. I will stick with DropBox, hopefully iCloud/Mountain Lion will offer something similar to DropBox in the future. :mad:
 
In order for me to replace iDisk I need two things, access to the files through finder, and through iOS. Seems to me that the 2 services that provide both of those things are SkyDrive and DropBox. SkyDrive is currently giving 25GB free, so they might be the winner.

I don't know if you know but iDisk is about to be discontinued so you better find those 2 things quickly. As everyone pointed out iCloud is useless for storage and it is biggest blow from Apple in last couple of years not mention Ping.
Regarding your Skydrive it is not 25 GB anymore; I know because I just sign up. More reading you can find up here http://www.pcworld.com/businesscenter/article/254298/new_and_improved_skydrive_is_a_threat_to_dropbox.html
 
Often files just disappear from my shared folders. Why? Because the most common use of these shared files if for people to drag them onto their hard drives for whatever reasons. And on Mac, that's a "move" not a "copy." So the file vanishes from Dropbox.

So I spend time warning my users not to do that, etc.

And that is exactly why I stopped using Dropbox. It's a shame too, because it's a great service apart from that. Whether I was dealing with collaborators or clients, I got tired of having to include Dropbox instructions every time I placed something.

I'd email five people on a team that I posted something. The first person would respond, "Great! I got it!" The next four people would respond, "No file. Where is it?"

It was worse in the beginning, before I realized what was happening. I'd shrug it off as a glitch, and go to repost... only to find that it isn't on my computer anymore! It had been moved to Dropbox! Then I'm calling the first person who responded, to tell them they have the only copy.*

So yeah, IMO Dropbox is crap. C-R-A-P.

And sadly Box.net isn't any better. Their 2GB file cap makes it useless for video professionals.

*If anyone has any sort of workaround for this, I'm all ears.
 
I can hardly bare the stupidity of some people here in the forum and I am wondering why you are on a mac anyway when you cannot understand icloud. Icloud is apples way of finally getting rid of a file system. Not today or tomorrow.It will evolve over the next couple of years and will surely never have such a outdated "feature" as syncable folders. Believing Apple made a wrong move getting rid of iDisk or not further evolving it shows how little you understand about Apple. Apple is already 2 steps ahead and skips the hype of syncable folders over the next 2 years. I don't want to deal with files in folders anymore. It is 2012.

You're a little harsh in your wording, but if iCloud supported all file type imaginable, you might be correct. BUt it doesn't, and a big one is missing: html and other web browser type files. Apple has a limited number of file types it supports in icloud (iwork, pics, some videos, music) for applications it mostly supplies. But the world is bigger than that
 
I guess Apple had no backup plan after DropBox told them they are not forsale... seems like every file storage option out there is far superior to iCloud. I will stick with DropBox, hopefully iCloud/Mountain Lion will offer something similar to DropBox in the future. :mad:

Hopefully with more competition from Google and Microsoft, Dropbox will be willing to sell itself to Apple.:p
 
Box.com does all of this already, with none of the cons listed by the dropbox user. You can set permissions so that certain users can only view, download, edt, etc.... nobody will be deleting data from your shared folders unless you permit them to. Box.com for the win.

Tried it. Hated it. Box.com would be perfect if it weren't for the absurd 2GB file cap. It makes it totally useless for me.
 
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