Well they certainly forced MobileMe users to stop using it. It will be hard to keep using it once Apple shuts it down.
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Well they certainly forced MobileMe users to stop using it. It will be hard to keep using it once Apple shuts it down.
Skoops, I looked around after seeing your post on this subject.
Turns out yes, the old plans are gone - but for new users. If you have an old one, you're grandfathered in. They have info on it here:
http://support.google.com/drive/bin/answer.py?hl=en&answer=39567&p=butter_old_storage
Lion
The thing about Lion is that not only did they force you to upgrade to maintain a few of the features you used to have with MobileMe, Lion a) abandons PowerPC apps forcing many to upgrade thousands of dollars of software b) revamped Spaces and Expose - a critical feature - in favor of Mission Control, an incomplete product with less functionality not universally accepted and even ill received by some and c) the worst sin in my opinion, released a generally buggy and unstable O/S that manages RAM ineffectually and crashes like a PC.
There's a term for this and it starts with the word "cluster".
The thing about Lion is that not only did they force you to upgrade to maintain a few of the features you used to have with MobileMe, Lion a) abandons PowerPC apps forcing many to upgrade thousands of dollars of software b) revamped Spaces and Expose - a critical feature - in favor of Mission Control, an incomplete product with less functionality not universally accepted and even ill received by some and c) the worst sin in my opinion, released a generally buggy and unstable O/S that manages RAM ineffectually and crashes like a PC.
There's a term for this and it starts with the word "cluster".
Your tin-foil hat appears to be falling off, be careful!
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(disclaimer: I AM an Apple fan)
That is because Apple sucks at all forms of online service. Other than online shopping, they quite simply suck at anything that touches the net. Ping, Mobile Me, iDisk, etc, they all are hellishly unreliable and slow outside the US.
Thanks! At least I know there's a bandaid. I know others who are having the same problem, so I'll pass this on.
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Well that is my opinion of their product, which is based on my experience using their product.
Your opinion can be based on your experience using their product.
I did say that it's great other than that one problem. It's silly to have to stop using Dropbox because of something so simple, and that's what I told them when I called to cancel my subscription. They need to fix it.
Good lord champ, enlighten us. So I don't have to use .doc's or .pdf's any more in 12'?
I do feel stupid. Show me the way....
Of course you have to! but if we weren't hold back by windows and people with a windows mentality, you probably wouldn't have to. rather than doing the 2 steps today, everything takes several years to evolve. thats why apple is such a fantastic company. floppy drive? not with us. dvd drive? outdated! thunderbolt? the future.
it takes other companies forever to get to that point. they will not drop so called standards to drive progress. anyway, where is my google drive!
This isn't a matter of etiquette. Also, I don't believe that "shared drive etiquette" is even something that exists.
In fact, you illustrate this very problem by referring to Dropbox as a drive. People think of it as a drive, such as an external hard drive, and what do we do with those? That's right, we drag and drop.
In almost any situation, users should know to copy the file and not drag in a shared situation, right?
So, nope. Not true. People in fact don't know to copy and paste. Again, they're thinking of the Dropbox as an online hard drive. Instead, Dropbox acts as just a folder on your own hard drive. It's easy to understand once you know, but my point is that I have to deal with tons of people who don't know, and every time I have to teach them.
Why don't they already know? Well, you said it yourself...
You clearly do not get the value of cloud storage and or how Skydive and Dropbox work. It isn't about needing Internet access to get your files when at your home pc as you do kit need Internet access they are stored locally. It is about access to your files and or uploading files from any machine or device anywhere in the world at anytime. It is about having a true off site back up of critical files and as for scurry I am willing to bet most of us do not store our most private data there.
Apple blew a great opportunity to get iCloud out in front of the competition.
Had they been focused, iCloud would have been introduced with all the features that MobileMe had and more.
I believe Apple, high off it's profits and media attention, became complacent in the development pace of iCloud. Now it's rather late as Google Drive... based on first impressions, is really outstanding.
Like millions of others, I'm already using every Google service / app / etc that fills my needs. Therefore setting up and using Drive is so simple it qualifies to use those oft repeated words: "it just works".
Kind of a sad day for Apple, the company I have been so loyal to for so many years.
But in the end, you know what they say... you snooze, you lose.
I think it still can. Cloud computing is in its infancy, and we never know what Apple has planned for the future. Most people still haven't adopted cloud computing, so this wouldn't be nearly as tough as, lets say... Microsoft trying to wedge its way into the smartphone market.
Right now, iCloud is a backup and sync system for Macs and iOS devices. For what it does, it works great. I would love to see Apple expand this into a cloud file storage system. I wouldn't be surprised if iCloud is greatly expanded within the next year.
If cloud computing is the future, then it's probably Apple's future.
Well if 's so smart, like you say- why can't I sync a doc. or a pdf via any service they have, except my MM account? Most of the corp. world works in these formats, so forget about file structure my only option (using apple only) is to email it.
I'm forced out of iDisk, and went with Dropbox like others here. iCloud is a step backwards from MM- with the exception of backup.
At least Google is being honest and disclosing their terms very clearly.LOL - According to the terms, Google owns and reserves the right to use EVERYTHING on your Google Drive!
http://cl.ly/1W2h1A163p0W2A3C0M0q Have fun having your info taken
If the user, is stupid enough to put files on Google Drive that are confidential, or of sensitive nature, it's just too bad.
Stupid gets what stupid deserves. (and I'm NOT suggesting you are stupid, just using the term as an example)
You're not alone. That's why I maintain two seperate networks at home that I can connect my various Macs to quickly and easily.
Network One, is not connected to the internet, therefore it's totally closed. It's my personal ultra secure network with a Synology DS1512+ NAS. I keep all my data on it. Absolutely everything, since I have gone 98% paperless.
Network Two, is for my internet use, where I employ several cloud services such as Dropbox, Sky Drive, Evernote, etc. I only put files in the cloud that I intend to share with others. The other type of files I put in the cloud are those I may be working on from within Google Docs or other Applications. These are files that do NOT contain anything I don't want to fall into the hands of others. That's just good safe computing practices.
The end result is I have the best of both worlds, and keep my data, my data.
My safe computing practices conflict with Apples desire to own all my stuff via Lion & iCloud. ?That's why I'm more than happy with 10.6.8. It has no links to iCloud whatsoever.
Apples push to get all of us on Lion is their way to collect a huge number of iCloud users, to influence everyone within the Apple eco-system to use iCloud exclusively.
The iOS elements in Lion, are a huge turn off for me. I have absolutely nothing against iOS, it's terrific on my iPhone and iPad, but that's where it needs to stay in my opinion.
I'd like nothing better than for Apple to maintain iOS and OS X separately, but it's too late for that.
Slowly moving towards convergence of these two with iOS being the dominate influence may push me away from Apple at some point. A thought I dread.
Yes, I'm very disappointed in Apple.
After my vote of confidence, spending $100 per year using MobileMe, then expecting the best that Apple has to offer in iCloud...well it's a letdown.
Looks familiar...
iCloud TOS
http://www.apple.com/legal/icloud/en/terms.html
All storage service providers have similar clauses.
Here are SkyDrive's terms. (Covered under Windows Live TOS.)
http://windows.microsoft.com/en-US/windows-live/microsoft-service-agreement
QFT!
It's a standard clause, no need to get your panties in a bunch
If Dropbox doesn't get their extra storage prices in line with what Google is charging, I'll be switching if this proves to be fast and demonstrates reliable uptime. Anything I store in an offsite cloud goes into an encrypted folder anyway so I'm not worried about Google data mining my files.
Now if the 1Password folks start supporting Google Drive, life will be good.
BTW, has anyone activated it yet? When I went through the process (https://drive.google.com/start), I got a pop-up informing me that I'd get an e-mail when Google Drive had been activated on the account. So then I tried signing up a new Google account and was offered the opportunity to activate Google Drive immediately (on that account).
Now if the 1Password folks start supporting Google Drive, life will be good.
BTW, has anyone activated it yet? When I went through the process (https://drive.google.com/start), I got a pop-up informing me that I'd get an e-mail when Google Drive had been activated on the account. So then I tried signing up a new Google account and was offered the opportunity to activate Google Drive immediately (on that account).
I don't get it?
True. Then again, they did give you PLENTY of notice, did they not? It's not like they just ended the service a week after they said they were dropping support.
Not sure I understand what all the fuss is about. There are other alternatives out there to take it's place. Are the better or worse? Personal opinion. I was an iDisk user, loved it and stopped using it when they said it was going away. I found an alternative and haven't used it since. I to was a paid user.
Again, I don't get it.
I don't think that Apple will ever (themselves) bring an iCloud iDisk. Apple seems to be stepping away from the concept of a filesystem and favoring a sandboxing approach.
That said, Apple has setup something whereas a 3rd party developer could bring an "app" that essentially uses iCloud as a generic filesystem.
Not just Google, but anyone they feel like giving it to - including anyone who sends them a subpoena, the government, and their business partners - and you may never know who is getting it.
I've used my iDisk pretty much daily since January 2000 when its first version began. Seeing that icon pop up on my desktop has always delighted me. I use it a lot for personal backups and storage and file sharing, and a lot for my freelance work as well. Even though I'm making other arrangements for my important data that's backed up up there, I know I'll still be using my iDisk until the day they turn it off this summer.
I hope Apple opens up some sort of iCloud-related replacement for it (apart from the in the cloud options that some iCloud-aware apps already have).
I hope Apple opens up some sort of iCloud-related replacement for it (apart from the in the cloud options that some iCloud-aware apps already have).
U pull out my use of the term drive? Aren't we talking about Google Drive? Just cuz a person uses the term drive it doesn't mean it is physically attached.
Cloud computing is just assigned space on a drive on a server that u access though the Internet. It isn't rocket science we've been using the cloud concept with a fancy name for decades. We just called them FTP or shared drives at work.
People copy and paste files from shared folders on drives that look like folders on their computer at work. Just cuz it has a fancy name they shouldn't treat it differently.
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