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I love how paranoid people are about Google and their precious "data." You all sound like criminals honestly. :rolleyes:
 
Not going to use Google Drive sorry, the **** would I willingly give Google that kind of access to my personal files for? People who use their services are the product not the customer.

I'd sooner use Microsoft's SkyDrive. At least I could be somewhat confident they weren't just using it as a ruse to scrape all my personal data to sell ads to me.
 
Wow, offline access to files is really the worse around.

You need to use Chrome (it stores the files somewhere deep in the browser - great) and then it only offers offline viewing (not editing).

Even then viewing only works for those documents you recently edited and only documents and spreadsheets (not presentations, etc).

Ony works for one account too.

Doesn't surprise me and why I'll avoid Google's ecosystem. Google really seems to think and push the idea that our computers should be dummy terminals that just connect to a main server. I really do think their chrome books is where they think/want the future to be.

I for one want to have a physical copy of my data on my computer and want my computer to be able to operate without having to connect to some other computer to have functionality.
 
I trust no one. I much prefer my raids in a cooled vault with a fire suppression system. Stay away from my stuff, you bunch of virtual pests!
 
Do you want to give Google even more of your information? If you do this is great

Says the person who probably has a Facebook account and stores everything else in Apple's cloud while twittering about it. Now where is using Google's cloud services worse than that?
 
I use and like Dropbox: it's robust and works well, but ...

When I share an individual file by publishing it's URL (copy link) to someone, when they open a file, like a video, on Mac, it plays the video. If they don't have QT Pro, they can't download it. I often want to share videos (my own, nothing copyrighted by others), and Dropbox makes that more difficult. I supposed I could just ZIP the video first, as iDisk does, but that's yet another step. They should deal with this issue.

Second, if I share a folder, there are two issues:
1. When someone else attached to it, we BOTH pay for the storage used - Dropbox counts the same bits twice. So, if I share a folder, then one of my sharees decides to move a bunch of c**p into into it because he's not a computer nerd like me, I go above my quota and have to tell him to get that stuff away. There's no way to restrict access (see #2)

Maybe that's OK if we both have read/write/delete access to the files ... but ...

2. Often files just disappear from my shared folders. Why? Because the most common use of these shared files if for people to drag them onto their hard drives for whatever reasons. And on Mac, that's a "move" not a "copy." So the file vanishes from Dropbox.

So I spend time warning my users not to do that, etc. What Dropbox needs is folder access types: full sharing for collaboration, partial sharing (read/write/delete, but not ADD files); and read only sharing (users can copy the files if they want, but can't make any changes)

iDisk was slower, but I could accomplish those goals easily enough.

I'm 99% sure it has this option (but I'm not at home to check just now). I've shared videos, and I thought it had a player window and then a link to the video underneath.
 
MacMate

I use MacMate (www.macmate.me). I mainly use the hosting part of it for my iweb site but I've been impressed by the speeds of the webdav disk. It's 10gig and works with WebDav Nav on my iPhone (although they have said they'll have their own iPhone App pretty soon). It's not cheap at $89 but very impressed with everything so far with them.
 
Says the person who probably has a Facebook account and stores everything else in Apple's cloud while twittering about it. Now where is using Google's cloud services worse than that?

I don't have twitter, facebook, g+ and so on(there are many people that care about privacy, not evryone is tw/fb share maniac). If u care about privacy than best thing you can do - use different services for every task (google for search, yahoo for mail, dropbox for cloud storage, Firefox for browsing etc.)

Google is company that collect all information it touches(and it can use it as you do not like it), so I prefer to not to use it services at all.

P.S. BTW As I saw at release of desktop client Microsoft SkyDrive it has better options than google

P.P.S. Sry for mistakes English not my native.
 
cloud storage:
+ access your data anywhere
+ access data through multiple devices

- less secure
- slower
- company owns your files
- risk of servers being hacked and risk of data loss
- have to pay monthly instead of a one time buy
- potential negative consequences for local storage devices such as flash, hard drives, solid state if these services get so big they affect manufacturer sales

yeah I think I'll pass
 
I don't get it?



True. Then again, they did give you PLENTY of notice, did they not? It's not like they just ended the service a week after they said they were dropping support.


Not sure I understand what all the fuss is about. There are other alternatives out there to take it's place. Are the better or worse? Personal opinion. I was an iDisk user, loved it and stopped using it when they said it was going away. I found an alternative and haven't used it since. I to was a paid user.

Again, I don't get it.

What's not to get? You claim iCloud was baked into Lion a next gen O/S but somehow Apple gets it to work with Vista a 6 year old widely panned clunker of an O/S. That renders your argument moot. Obviously Apple could've supported iCloud in Snow Leopard. Rather it was leverage to get all the Applelites already neatly in the fold to ante up and buy the next operating system.

Meanwhile they pander to Windows users who they hope to also get in the fold. iCloud (just like iDevices) - it's all part of a segue into the Apple ecosystem. The strategy is obvious but bad form.

You say there are alternatives but there are not. For instance, have you ever actually tried to use Google Contact syncing? It's a disaster. Calendar syncing was not much better I found. MobileMe synced contacts and calendars perfectly. I don't think anyone's crying over iDisk. It was a subpar product anyway and yes you are right - for that there are better alternatives.

Further you claim that we were given plenty of time to make the switch. Yes that is true. But by the same token Apple had plenty of time and resources to release a more stable and bug free version of Lion than the one we have now. But it doesn't matter. Lion also does not support PowerPC applications, another twist of the knife that costs those of us who use our Macs to make a living to find a way to replace thousands of dollars of software that we rely on. For some there is no option so they must stick with Snow Leopard.

What Apple should have done was either A) simply made iCloud available for Snow Leopard (obvious solution) or B) if they wanted to push the upgrade, released a more stable version of Lion with PowerPC application support as an option just like in Snow Leopard.
 
U pull out my use of the term drive? Aren't we talking about Google Drive? Just cuz a person uses the term drive it doesn't mean it is physically attached.

Cloud computing is just assigned space on a drive on a server that u access though the Internet. It isn't rocket science we've been using the cloud concept with a fancy name for decades. We just called them FTP or shared drives at work.

People copy and paste files from shared folders on drives that look like folders on their computer at work. Just cuz it has a fancy name they shouldn't treat it differently.

So they even call it a drive and yet-

No. You're not getting it. I'll start over.

I know how these things work.

You know how these things work.

Lots and lots of other people don't.

So if you're just going to keep pressing that it's so easy and everyone understand, do me a favor. Put your energy to good use. Email everyone. Email everyone in the world and tell them that. Tell them how simple and easy Dropbox is. Explain it to them nicely and I'm sure they'll all get it and then we can all use Dropbox and the world can finally be a happy place.

K? Thanks :p

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Dropbox is still the king.

I've had a bad experience but I'm considering giving them another go. The one thing stopping me from using every other cloud service is the ridiculous file size limit.

Are there any services, other than Dropbox, that don't have a file size limit?

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Engadget has a nice comparison chart for cloud services.

http://www.engadget.com/2012/04/24/google-drive-vs-the-competition-dropbox-skydrive-icloud/

seems like skydrive is the best option. clients are available for windows/mac, ios

Thanks!

I don't understand why iCloud is even on there. It's such a different product. Including box.com would have been more appropriate.
 
My issue with Dropbox is that if I want to send a big file to someone - not "collaborate" on it - then the person has to remember to move it out of the Dropbox shared folder, or I have to remember to delete it from the Public folder (and ask the person whether they downloaded it before I delete it) to regain that storage space. With an email, you simply send the email and you know the person got it, and you don't keep a copy of the file either.

I also don't like that Dropbox requires you to actually MOVE or COPY files into the Dropbox folder - you can't just link files already on your hard drive. So if you want to stick to your own file structure, you have to copy files to Dropbox, which means it takes up duplicate Hard Drive space.

Actually, you can link to files already on your drive without having to have duplicate copies. You can create symbolic links in you Dropbox folder that link to other folders on your drive and drobox will upload those files and keep the folders in sync. You can read more about it here: http://lifehacker.com/5154698/sync-files-and-folders-outside-your-my-dropbox-folder
 
I think I'll put G Drive in my Dropbox folder and my Dropbox folder in my SkyDrive folder. EPIC.

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Says the person who probably has a Facebook account and stores everything else in Apple's cloud while twittering about it. Now where is using Google's cloud services worse than that?

http://www.cultofmac.com/162901/goo...-google-do-whatever-it-likes-with-your-files/

The full TOS are pasted at the end of this post, but the relevant part for users of regular, personal Google accounts is here this:

When you upload or otherwise submit content to our Services, you give Google (and those we work with) a worldwide license to use, host, store, reproduce, modify, create derivative works (such as those resulting from translations, adaptations or other changes we make so that your content works better with our Services), communicate, publish, publicly perform, publicly display and distribute such content.

Translation: you’re effectively ceding copyright and any other form of control you have over your personal documents to Google. Worse, any document created by someone else is also made subject to these conditions, just by storing it in your GDrive:

Make sure you have the necessary rights to grant us this license for any content that you submit to our Services.

That doesn't sit right somehow
 
I have 24gb of free storage on Dropbox. That's not the normal amount and I agree they have to up it a bit and improve the service thanks to the competition... And maybe Apple will see that they need to up iCloud's ante and what it's capable of as well.

But outta that amount I only have 1.3% in use. I have 1Password synced between my computers with it but what else should I be doing? I just can't seem to use all that space.
 
Now Google can track and sell all your storage information to advertisers. Genius!

Yes because apple is such an angel and protects it's consumers privacy.

:apple: approves.


When you use Siri, the things you say will be recorded and sent to Apple to process your requests. Your device will also send Apple other information, such as your first name and nickname; the names, nicknames, and relationship with you (e.g., “my dad”) of your address book contacts; and song names in your collection (collectively, your “User Data”). All of this data is used to help Siri understand you better and recognize what you say. It is not linked to other data that Apple may have from your use of other Apple services. By using Siri, you agree and consent to Apple’s and its subsidiaries’ and agents’ transmission, collection, maintenance, processing, and use of this information, including your voice input and User Data, to provide and improve Siri and other Apple products and services.

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