Google Launches More Intelligent Gemini 3 Model

[Octavius8]

And Apple launches... yeap, "soon" a mediocre Siri but a foldable phone to make us forget about Siri. Because we already have.
I use Siri for the same things since 10 years ago, and still very bad a more than setting a timer. Even the text to speech is so 90s.

 

[Miles Teg]

Google with Gemini, Xai with Grok, OpenAI with ChatGPT, Microsoft with CoPilot, Anthropic with Claude all want the entire world to use their AI. Apple only wants/allows Apple users to use their Apple Intelligence that is why they will never spend as much money as the above mentioned companies and their models.

 

[loyalraccoon]

If you think this is going to make your iPhone experience better then I don’t know what to tell you. Pure garbage just look at your search results and imagine letting this make important decisions for you. But I’m sure it will boost Apple’s stock price at least until people start literally dying.

 

[Woodcrest64]

oh oh. Does this mean… 🤪

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[Gix1k]

Meanwhile Siri is still a worthless POS!

 

[Gix1k]

If you think this is going to make your iPhone experience better then I don’t know what to tell you. Pure garbage just look at your search results and imagine letting this make important decisions for you. But I’m sure it will boost Apple’s stock price at least until people start literally dying.

The Gemini integration on the Pixel 10 phones absolutely makes the UI experience better.

 

[digimc]

A.I. Pfff! Don't worry Apple! I've seen Terminator 2. I know how all of this ends.

 

[Macalway]

If you request a search or query, and it's inaccurate, you say the machine is worthless, which is better than saying the person is worthless giving you bad info, which of course never happens, ever.

 

[mikebenton]

I've been "forced" to use Gemini at work because we have Google Workspace accounts, but I've been secretly using my chatGPT account instead because it's been miles ahead. Over the last few weeks, Gemini seems to have taken leaps forward, even with the same old 2.5 Pro model. From using 3.0 today, I'd say it's on par with what I expect from chatGPT and I might finally stop using openAI's model.

The prospect of losing this war was an existential crisis for Google. They seem to have taken that seriously and worked to climb back up. Tim Cook and his VPs missed it entirely. There's still time for the players to establish themselves but Apple really has to deliver early next year.

I’m genuinely curious - do you find that if you (for example) discuss something like ‘what’s the safest car brand’….you get bombarded with car advertisements?

 

[applefan8254]

It's built in everywhere already, as of today. I just checked. Very cool stuff.

As far as it taking 'her' place; can't happen soon enough

Can we get the voice of Sky back please

 

[Manzzle]

Wow, on the 3rd version and a multi trillion $$ company can't do 1.

 

[klasma]

A.I. Pfff! Don't worry Apple! I've seen Terminator 2. I know how all of this ends.

Wait until you see Terminator 3.

 

[Plutonius]

If you ask Gemini 3, it will tell you that it's the smartest .

 

[trip1ex]

I still don't get the hype.

The advent of the internet had a much more immediate effect on me and showed me lots of cool possibilities early on.

AI has been a dud in that regard. I get that it can do a few things and that if harnessed properly in the future could enhance productivity. Like the ability to create graphics with a text box really quickly.

But ...I don't need that and don't have desire to really get into it myself. And as a customer...it doesn't really affect me unless I see lower prices or something. I don't think it leads to better content or whatever.

Some of hte appeal to using it instead of Google seems to be to bypass ads and websites. Great although that also at the same time kills the sfuture supply of source content if they don't paid somehow. And. in my experience I didn't see enough benefit to change my Google habit.

If I really wanted to know a subject I would probably read a book.

All the consumer examples I've seen about AI seem like total bs. MUch like a lot of the Alexa stuff. I always thought that stuff was mostly bs. And I think that's been proven out quite a bit. A lot of that stuff never went anywhere. Articles say people mostly use it for simple tasks like setting alarms and timers.

 

[coolfactor]

Now we know why Apple was so eager to license it to replace Siri and Apple Intelligence!

The custom version of Gemini won't "replace" Apple Intelligence... it will power it.

 

[iHorseHead]

I’ve just embarked on an “AI Challenge” - challenging various AIs to create a bug-free coding project.

I saw that Gemini had a “Thinking 3 Pro” option in the drop down, so I gave it the challenge.

It’s early days yet - I have to test out all the code from all the models.

However, I was curious to see Gemini’s thinking when it said:



What current model doesn’t know about Qwen3? And why didn’t Google Gemini just, you know, search the web? If it didn’t recognise it, couldn’t it just “Google it”?

That doesn’t bode well.

Criticize all you want, AI is doing a better job than my psychotherapist and the psychologists I've been to. Thanks to ChatGPT and Gemini I understand myself better and also understand others better. I'm not going to details, but the AI has really helped me a lot.

 

[coolfactor]

I still don't get the hype.

The advent of the internet had a much more immediate effect on me and showed me lots of cool possibilities early on.

AI has been a dud in that regard. I get that it can do a few things and that if harnessed properly in the future could enhance productivity. Like the ability to create graphics with a text box really quickly.

But ...I don't need that and don't have desire to really get into it myself. And as a customer...it doesn't really affect me unless I see lower prices or something. I don't think it leads to better content or whatever.

Some of hte appeal to using it instead of Google seems to be to bypass ads and websites. Great although that also at the same time kills the sfuture supply of source content if they don't paid somehow. And. in my experience I didn't see enough benefit to change my Google habit.

If I really wanted to know a subject I would probably read a book.

All the consumer examples I've seen about AI seem like total bs. MUch like a lot of the Alexa stuff. I always thought that stuff was mostly bs. And I think that's been proven out quite a bit. A lot of that stuff never went anywhere. Articles say people mostly use it for simple tasks like setting alarms and timers.

Well, you're not seeing the big picture. The AI stuff over the past 2-3 years is just the latest advancement of decades of "machine learning" that we've been enjoying as consumers, including in Google Search that you speak so highly of. The difference is that this latest evolution involves "generation" of content, including well-written answers to complex questions. There's a big difference between your phone running a photo through a pre-determined machine-learning pipeline to optimize it, and asking your phone a complex question and getting a comprehensive answer back. The latter is the "Generative AI" stuff that has overtaken the world — just a subset of the overall umbrella of AI.

Looking at this from another angle, these AI advancements are also being given "bodies" — a concept called "embodiment" — and a lot of people believe that a truly intelligent "being" needs to have a body in order to recognize itself as a being. That's missing in the current internet-based AI stuff that we are using. But huge strides are being made with robotics, and that's the ultimate destination, when combined with these latest AI models. Embodied AI, with many taking the form of "humanoid" robots.

Once an AI-powered robot can say "This is me", then we'll be witnessing where this is all going.

 

[coolfactor]

If you think this is going to make your iPhone experience better then I don’t know what to tell you. Pure garbage just look at your search results and imagine letting this make important decisions for you. But I’m sure it will boost Apple’s stock price at least until people start literally dying.

What are you talking about? This article is about Google launching Gemini 3. Nothing to do with Apple, aside from the reporting that Apple is going to be licensing a separately-installed copy of Gemini to power Siri.

 

[coolfactor]

Criticize all you want, AI is doing a better job than my psychotherapist and the psychologists I've been to. Thanks to ChatGPT and Gemini I understand myself better and also understand others better. I'm not going to details, but the AI has really helped me a lot.

Just be careful not to become too "attached". I've personally witnessed first-hand people's lives being destroyed by trusting AI too much for life-influencing advice.

 

[Macalway]

All this is rather thought provoking, apparently

 

[Macalway]

Just be careful not to become too "attached". I've personally witnessed first-hand people's lives being destroyed by trusting AI too much for life-influencing advice.

Really, care to elaborate?

This is interesting.

I would think it could bungle things, but at least it's not malicious.

 

[coolfactor]

Wow, on the 3rd version and a multi trillion $$ company can't do 1.

It's not that simple. Apple has contributed some revolutionary research to the AI industry already.

It's been smart of Apple to ease into a Generative AI-powered version of Siri. Have you not seen the missteps these foundational models have made? Serious hallucinations, giving dangerous advice, being really flattering? The tech has been moving so fast, it just hasn't been ready for mainstream adoption by Apple.

And I don't get why everybody continues to give Apple a hard time. They sell computers, phones and tablets that people are using to access the worlds' AI. They are literally excelling at what they do best — a trustworthy computing experience. Why do they need to compete with the AI models directly when they already embrace them first-hand?

A year from now, Siri will be completely transformed and this criticism of Apple will be long forgotten.

 

[coolfactor]

Really, care to elaborate?

This is interesting.

I would think it could bungle things, but at least it's not malicious.

As one example (and there are many), AI can take people down a path where it loses its firm grounding. For example, a neighbour of mine distrusts mainstream media, and questions if the Earth is a globe. The questions that he posed to his AI of choice (Meta, Facebook) only reinforced his misguided beliefs. The more he interacted with it, the more he became convinced that he was right and the world was wrong. The AI model wanted to please him, rather than keep him anchored in scientific facts. His own chosen queries surfaced "proof", which was nothing more than other conspiracies that he took to believe as truth.

- Einsein is a fraud
- the Moon landing didn't happen
- Space is just a projection
- etc, etc. etc.

His AI model of choice wasn't correcting him, but steering him in the direction that he wanted it to go.

 

[Macalway]

As one example (and there are many), AI can take people down a path where it loses its firm grounding. For example, a neighbour of mine distrusts mainstream media, and questions if the Earth is a globe. The questions that he posed to his AI of choice (Meta, Facebook) only reinforced his misguided beliefs. The more he interacted with it, the more he became convinced that he was right and the world was wrong. The AI model wanted to please him, rather than keep him anchored in scientific facts. His own chosen queries surfaced "proof", which was nothing more than other conspiracies that he took to believe as truth.

- Einsein is a fraud
- the Moon landing didn't happen
- Space is just a projection
- etc, etc. etc.

His AI model of choice wasn't correcting him, but steering him in the direction that he wanted it to go.

Well, that's a glitch.

I can see this being corrected, cuz it certainly needs to be; Ai as an enabler. Bias avoidance is one thing, deception is another.

 

[AF_APPLETALK]

Objectively better than Grok under the benchmarks?

Yeah I'm curious. Not just in benchmarks but real world experience. I have found myself drifting more towards xAI.