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Google Launching Privacy Sandbox to Limit Ad Tracking on Android, Calls 'Blunt Approaches' Like Apple's 'Ineffective'
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The ad fox guarding the customer henhouse....
Let me bluntly say to ad trackers, you aren't wanted here anymore.
I’m seriously considering starting a business and creating a social media platform that costs £1/$1 a year and has no tracking, advertising, snooping etc of any kind and making it impossible to do so. Have spoken to a few people that code for a living and they have assured me it can be done. Have quite a bit of money set aside to start it. Bit of a poll for you all…
Would you pay £1/$1 a year for a social media platform with no ads, no tracking of any kind if it was really well coded and offered similar features to Facebook ?
Already have a brilliant brand name, design and list of features that I think would be better than the competition as it is now, never mind what more I could add at a later date.
To add it would be totally platform independent and not reliant on AWS, Google or anybody. Own servers, own rules, own cast iron guarantee of absolutely bo tracking or adverts and I’d encourage professionals to come and visit and check whenever they would want. Basically a good, honest company.
Would you pay £1/$1 a year for a social media platform with no ads, no tracking of any kind if it was really well coded and offered similar features to Facebook ?
Already have a brilliant brand name, design and list of features that I think would be better than the competition as it is now, never mind what more I could add at a later date.
To add it would be totally platform independent and not reliant on AWS, Google or anybody. Own servers, own rules, own cast iron guarantee of absolutely bo tracking or adverts and I’d encourage professionals to come and visit and check whenever they would want. Basically a good, honest company.
Okay lemme process this real quick.
Google says Apple taking initiative to limit cross tracking is bad.
Google says we’re going limit cross tracking, by figuring out a different way to limit cross tracking.
Google says we’re so great look at us.
Takeaway: Google realizes what they were doing is bad and people hate it once they know what was going on, and are responding by, we’re still going to do it but figure a different way to do it that is “respectful of your privacy”.
The definition of a fool comes to mind, and something something about a dog returning to its own vomit.
Google says Apple taking initiative to limit cross tracking is bad.
Google says we’re going limit cross tracking, by figuring out a different way to limit cross tracking.
Google says we’re so great look at us.
Takeaway: Google realizes what they were doing is bad and people hate it once they know what was going on, and are responding by, we’re still going to do it but figure a different way to do it that is “respectful of your privacy”.
The definition of a fool comes to mind, and something something about a dog returning to its own vomit.
No, I wouldn't ever pay anything for any social platform, but I'm probably the wrong person to ask.
I use a bit of Twitter, last time I opened it was 2 months ago or so.
Few Forums and IRC.
Rarely Reddit, too.
All notifications off, of course.
Ohh and WhatsApp to stay in touch with my parents since corona.
The day they are gone, I'm gone from WhatsApp, too.
I'm not going to ask them to start using Signal with their nearly 80ys.
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Stop quoting the 10 Billion dollar number.
Facebook admitted they made the number up and had no backing for it (it’s suspiciously a round number, so they weren’t even clever in their lie.)
Facebook admitted they made the number up and had no backing for it (it’s suspiciously a round number, so they weren’t even clever in their lie.)
If it were able to have a long term sustainability plan ($ not trees) and be able to survive, sure 1$ a year sounds reasonable.
Apple's approach is ineffective for letting companies track and profile you.
Talking of blunt approaches, I use one for Google products: 'No thanks'.
Yeah, it would be nice to return to the phone call days, and sharing Polaroid. Or heck even just EMAILING photos and things to people who you know care about you.
Say that to Meta and Mark Zukerburg. They singled out Apple's technology for near enough single-handedly wiping out a chunk of their revenue.
Every time Google talks security, I can’t help but chuckle.
I worked closely with them (client side) and I can’t express how much worse they are, as a company, as a business model, than one could imagine and certainly than is reported. They’re capabilities, intentions and collaborations are frightening. And actual. Not myth. Not rumor. Actual. Obviously, billions of users don’t care. “It’s free!” And that fine. But I do care and support them as little as is possible.
I worked closely with them (client side) and I can’t express how much worse they are, as a company, as a business model, than one could imagine and certainly than is reported. They’re capabilities, intentions and collaborations are frightening. And actual. Not myth. Not rumor. Actual. Obviously, billions of users don’t care. “It’s free!” And that fine. But I do care and support them as little as is possible.
"Blunt approach" = good. I want to whack those advertisers and personal data brokers with a solid heavy hammer.
If you want a frontend engineer who takes accessibility and UX seriously, give me a shout!
Yeah the change only cost Facebook like $10,000,000,000 last year sounds super ineffective to me.
What Google isn’t saying here, but it’s in the specs, is that there’s a huge carve out for their own Ad tracking programs that will be allowed to track and sell that I for. This is really more about cutting the competition for their own Ad placements services.
after all folks, at least 95% of Google’s sales and profit comes from Advertising, because that’s what they are, an advertising company. Everything else they do is simply for the purpose of raking people’s information to sell to,advertisers.
after all folks, at least 95% of Google’s sales and profit comes from Advertising, because that’s what they are, an advertising company. Everything else they do is simply for the purpose of raking people’s information to sell to,advertisers.
Google as a self-regulator of stalking, not that works....not Ha! I'm sure they will only do good stalking.
Ha! I'm sure they will only do good stalking.There are rivals already. Coding isn't the obstacle to success. If it were we could all create world famous apps and websites. Gettr is almost a carbon copy of Twitter but is nowhere near as successful. Youtube is way more successful than Vimeo, indeed many won't have heard of Vimeo yet for a long time the capabilities were similar.
Barriers to entry include advertising, profile, resistance to change, lethargy, many won't pay $1, many won't change platforms if their friends don't. Reaching critical mass is hard.
That said, don't be discouraged. If it is truly what you want to do, give it your best shot and I hope you succeed. Many of the biggest successes were thought unlikely in the beginning.
Personally, no longer seeing suspiciously relevant ads in my F-book feed (a business related tool) is clear proof that Apple’s strategy has been effective.
It was disturbing, when I might look up an obscure widget on Safari browser, log into FB hours later, and see ads for said obscure widget, despite taking the steps needed to block cookies, etc.
That doesn’t happen any more, at all.
It was disturbing, when I might look up an obscure widget on Safari browser, log into FB hours later, and see ads for said obscure widget, despite taking the steps needed to block cookies, etc.
That doesn’t happen any more, at all.
headline should be: "Ad-based company Google looking at ways to stay afloat in the face of people realizing they are the product"