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I’ve been waiting for this update since the release of iPhone 14PM. Dynamic Island will probably go away in 2-4 years so I get google’s commitment issues, but why even say you’re going to do it when you’re not fully committed? I probably will start using Apple Maps, which I’m sure a lot of iPhone users have or will do soon.
 
It's used for the following:
  • Active timers
  • Incoming calls or messages
  • Charging status (briefly after you put your phone on the charger, so as long as your phone is unlocked)
  • Battery status of accessories like AirPods
  • Currently playing media from either Apple Music or any other music or podcast app
Except for iPhone battery status, I get those other items on my Apple Watch. I’m still on iPhone 13 (and plan to be for a long time… for mini reasons).
 
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You should have bought the option. Or a better car.
Agree to disagree, but I think maps you can get from CarPlay by way of apps like Apple's own, Google Maps, or Waze are leaps and bounds ahead of the ones from the vehicle's own infotainment system, if it has the capability to do so

My vehicle also doesn't have built-in maps, and I'm more than OK with that as 90% of the time I'm using CarPlay anyways
 
crazy how these companies have we thousands of developers who get paid 6 figure salaries yet it takes them months or years to roll out basic additions that should've taken a week tops. like what are they doing all day
 
Apple and Google maps are pretty much useless compared to the built-in NAV systems on any decent car made in the last 5 years. And should you really be looking at your phone's map while you're driving???

It just so happens that both Apple and Google maps look and work way better than those “built-in NAV systems”.

Firstly, the familiarity factor, as each car manufacturer bakes their own and you may need to figure out how it works getting into the car. Apple & Google are very familiar to everybody with a smartphone.

Secondly, the update speed and real-time user feedback. Again, smartphone maps still outsmart any built in solutions.

Lastly, if you drive a modern car it is very likely to have a panel with either CarPlay, Google Auto or both enabled, so no need to look at the phone at all. In fact, I use it to feed all the nav data via CarPlay with the screen off. 👌
 
Apple and Google maps are pretty much useless compared to the built-in NAV systems on any decent car made in the last 5 years. And should you really be looking at your phone's map while you're driving???
As opposed to looking at the built in screen in your car? Seriously? This is a very confusing comment. People have their phones mounted in the same position. Not to mention CarPlay and Android Auto are better than the vast majority of the stock systems anyway and are updated more often.
 
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Apple has developed a lot of cool features, but sadly 3rd party devs don't implement many of them.
often times that is because what apple gives access to for the developers is pretty poor and then limited scope of users can even use it as Apple tends to lock some of the features behind newer phone upgrades.

The access in the API for Apple is meh at best for a lot of those things making it harder to things or heavily limited to using Apple design language so only Apple fonts and designs. Also have to do to it the very Apple way with little freedom.

Also even what is fed back to the app is heavily limited and what those island features have access to is limited so it force nearly a full rewrite to get them to be usable so not worth the cost.

That or hey it only is able to be put on the latest OS is a common one. The general standard is 2 versions back of support for apps so we are just doing iOS 17 right now so the only features devs really have to work with is iOS 15.

Swift Data for example is going to be oh look that is a cool feature but not going to be consider for at least 2-3 years because of lack of support for iOS 16 and down.
 
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Apple and Google maps are pretty much useless compared to the built-in NAV systems on any decent car made in the last 5 years. And should you really be looking at your phone's map while you're driving???
 
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Apple Maps is as good or better now. Google needs to realize slow rolling iOS development doesn’t work anymore. They need to dedicate more effort toward the product.
I mean I agree that some parts of Apple Maps are better like better visualization of roads and turns. But in many more ways Apple is still way way behind.
 
I mean I agree that some parts of Apple Maps are better like better visualization of roads and turns. But in many more ways Apple is still way way behind.

I disagree somewhat. There are definitely areas that Google Maps is ahead but I would no longer say "many more ways". Apple Maps is overall better for me and where I live.
 
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Do people still use Google Maps much? Apple Maps is pretty excellent nowadays and the full integration and parity between all my Apple devices keeps me using it. The only area that I've noticed Apple is behind Google in maps is with street view, and less importantly, 3D satellite views of some cities. For some reason my home town, Kansas City, and the surrounding area totaling 2.2 million people don't have either. I looked it up, and it seems like there are only 19 cities in the US that even support this yet:
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Boston, MA
  • Chicago, IL
  • Denver, CO
  • Detroit, MI
  • Houston, TX
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Miami, FL
  • New York, NY
  • Oahu, HI
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Portland, OR
  • San Diego, CA
  • San Francisco Bay Area, CA
  • Santa Cruz, CA
  • Seattle, WA
  • Washington, DC
I don't use either feature much, but when I do sometimes need street view, it's usually for something important. How has Apple not scanned every city after so many years? I remember Google had nearly everything scanned at least 15 years ago, maybe more.
 
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Do people still use Google Maps much? Apple Maps is pretty excellent nowadays and the full integration and parity between all my Apple devices keeps me using it. The only area that I've noticed Apple is behind Google in maps is with street view, and less importantly, 3D satellite views of some cities. For some reason my home town, Kansas City, and the surrounding area totaling 2.2 million people don't have either. I looked it up, and it seems like there are only 19 cities in the US that even support this yet:
  • Atlanta, GA
  • Boston, MA
  • Chicago, IL
  • Denver, CO
  • Detroit, MI
  • Houston, TX
  • Las Vegas, NV
  • Los Angeles, CA
  • Miami, FL
  • New York, NY
  • Oahu, HI
  • Philadelphia, PA
  • Phoenix, AZ
  • Portland, OR
  • San Diego, CA
  • San Francisco Bay Area, CA
  • Santa Cruz, CA
  • Seattle, WA
  • Washington, DC
I don't use either feature much, but when I do sometimes need street view, it's usually for something important. How has Apple not scanned every city after so many years? I remember Google had nearly everything scanned at least 15 years ago, maybe more.
It’s called investment
 
Why would you voluntarily buy the inferior native navigation almost every car comes with?
It's always included in the higher trim levels, and who wants a base model, even if you could find one? Also, because it works. And there's no lag. Maps are perfect and have pictorial representations of points of interest (You should see the picture of the Kansas City Keeper of the Plains statue and the river on my NAV!). Updates available at no charge online. Turn by turn voice instructions come quicker than Apple or Android maps. Tighter integration with the car's voice controls and dash screen. Not having to say "Hey Siri." Other than that, can't think of a thing.
 
I don't use either feature much, but when I do sometimes need street view, it's usually for something important. How has Apple not scanned every city after so many years? I remember Google had nearly everything scanned at least 15 years ago, maybe more.
Not only did Google scan most important stuff all that time ago, they re-scan constantly. Some parts in Seattle I was looking at had several scans per year. It’s the only part left where I feel google maps beats Apple.
 
It's always included in the higher trim levels, and who wants a base model, even if you could find one? Also, because it works. And there's no lag. Maps are perfect and have pictorial representations of points of interest (You should see the picture of the Kansas City Keeper of the Plains statue and the river on my NAV!). Updates available at no charge online. Turn by turn voice instructions come quicker than Apple or Android maps. Tighter integration with the car's voice controls and dash screen. Not having to say "Hey Siri." Other than that, can't think of a thing.
Ive been in a variety of cars at all trims and Nav and the system UX is usually inferior. Zero lag in my Mazda either. I never have to say “Hey Siri, I just press a button on the steering wheel.
 
Apple Maps is as good or better now. Google needs to realize slow rolling iOS development doesn’t work anymore. They need to dedicate more effort toward the product.

Do you think there's a "yuck" sentiment at Google against the iOS platform much like we have for Windows? 😜

That's hard to imagine given how superior iOS is to Android. 😝
 
Apple and Google maps are pretty much useless compared to the built-in NAV systems on any decent car made in the last 5 years. And should you really be looking at your phone's map while you're driving???

Spoken as a true non-user of Apple Maps. 🤣

When's the last time you did a side-by-side comparison against CarPlay?
 
It's always included in the higher trim levels, and who wants a base model, even if you could find one? Also, because it works. And there's no lag. Maps are perfect and have pictorial representations of points of interest (You should see the picture of the Kansas City Keeper of the Plains statue and the river on my NAV!). Updates available at no charge online. Turn by turn voice instructions come quicker than Apple or Android maps. Tighter integration with the car's voice controls and dash screen. Not having to say "Hey Siri." Other than that, can't think of a thing.

Never experienced lag with Apple Maps voice prompts, but did notice some lag a few years ago with Google Maps.

Are you sure your impression is based on current reality, or some brief testing years ago?
 
Do you think there's a "yuck" sentiment at Google against the iOS platform much like we have for Windows? 😜

That's hard to imagine given how superior iOS is to Android. 😝
I'm a software engineer in mobile application development. Android is a yucky platform. The actual OS may be fine for end users but the software development story for it is disgusting and Google should be ashamed of it. They have better 1st party documentation for their APIs than Apple though, so I will give them some credit there.
 
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