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Not sold in all markets, not sold on Verizon which actually had an LTE footprint in 2011, limited availability, not consistent across the product line in the USA.

Add it all up, and no one cared if it had LTE or not in 2011. People care now though.

You think people care now because the iPhone has LTE. Because clearly nothing matters until Apple implements it. Your post history speaks for itself.

I also notice that you "happily" switched to making LTE an issue. Are you still going to maintain that the S3 has a crappy screen?

That's why I said MOST!!!!

That might be your opinion - but there's not actual data to back up your assertion. My opinion is most people who are labeled trolls/fandroids/etc may not even own android devices and/or own technology from various manufacturers. It's just so easy to call someone a name or label them vs having an actual debate though.
 
I can't wait for the day that Samsung back stabs Google they way Google back stabbed Apple.

Google would only backstab samsung if they included exclusive features of android and did not allow other manufacturers to use it. Unlikely.
 
As soon as I hear this alarm bells go off. It pretty much means the person either "read about it somewhere", or hasn't used a decent Android handset made within the last 12 months or so. Either way it means their "opinion" is at least a year out of date. It's really quite astounding the advances that Android has made in the year.

Why can't people just say "I use this phone simply because I prefer iPhone/Android"? Why do they feel the need to regurgitate FUD?

By the way, very good post - I agree with everything you said.

Agreed.

I'll further by saying - if the same comment were made (so out of date) about iOS - whether it was someone who compared it to the recent Android and/or even just a random comment how iOS can't do this or has this problem - people would get jumped on for it.

Being out of touch is being out of touch. And if you REALLY don't know - it's better to ask questions or give a frame of reference to your post vs speaking from ignorance.
 
Not sold in all markets, not sold on Verizon which actually had an LTE footprint in 2011, limited availability, not consistent across the product line in the USA.

Add it all up, and no one cared if it had LTE or not in 2011. People care now though.

What I find most amusing about the Nexus 4 is the irony of it because it's got all the things that made the iPhone 4S "outdated and unacceptable" in 2011

Glass back
No LTE
No expandable memory
No changeable battery
Worse battery life than it's predecessor

Yet now when there is a real competitive LTE market on a global scale and there are chipsets with pretty good battery on LTE "you don't need it".

Well if you don't need it now, you sure as hell didn't need it in 2011 when fandroids were frothing about the lack of LTE in the 4S.

The competitive market for LTE is only here in the USA. Android has a 75-80 percent market share around the world and LTE isn't a big part of that at all. The Nexus 4 has the LTE chip in it and if you want it, you can get it to work and some have but please continue your lame rants as usual.
 
If google put iOS on hat new phone then they might have a chance. But with google, be prepared to be seeing ads all over the place.

Really? Because do you know how many ads I see on my Skyrocket now via the OS? None.

Do you and others really believe the things you type? Or are people trying to be "witty" ?
 
I also notice that you "happily" switched to making LTE an issue. Are you still going to maintain that the S3 has a crappy screen?

The Galaxy S3 has the WORST screen among flagship smart phones. It's the worst by an staggering margin.

Far below the HTC One X, Nokia Lumia 920, and iPhone5.

It's pentile, half the brightness of even the iPhone 4S even, and everything is a funky nasty greenish/blue...it just sucks.

And there will be no shortage of people saying so when the S4 drops with a 1080p LCD display. Then it will be okay to say it sucks.

You think people care now because the iPhone has LTE. Because clearly nothing matters until Apple implements it.

I think people care enough because LTE is prevalent enough to be a factor now, unlike 2011. It's not about Apple. LTE will grow with or without Apple.

LTE is prevalent and important enough that Samsung would gut their sexy exynos chip and gimp their USDM S3 with Qualcomm dreck just for the sake of LTE. No carrier is going to throw their weight behind an LTE-less flagship phone because they know it will flop.
 
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Add it all up, and no one cared if it had LTE or not in 2011. People care now though.

Yea? Then why were less than 10% of subscriptions in the US this year to LTE services? Why were LTE subscription rates in other areas of the world approaching 0% ??

What is it that you do with your iPhone that requires LTE speeds?

Anyone notice how this guy just dodges any questions that are remotely prickly?

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And there will be no shortage of people saying so when the S4 drops with a 1080p LCD display. Then it will be okay to say it sucks.

Nah, that's classic iPhone user behaviour.... in fact you've been doing it this whole thread with regards to LTE. Any self-awareness going on there?
 
Yet now when there is a real competitive LTE market on a global scale

Bwahahahaaha. Are you for real? The global LTE market is almost non-existent. Even in the US, see that the graph I posted (which you couldn't directly respond to), adoption rates of LTE were less than 10% of subscriptions.

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Yea, that looks like a healthy "global" LTE market. Less than 10% in North America, a few percent in Asia Pacific and basically 0% in Latin America, Middle East & Africa, Western Europe and Central and Eastern Europe.
 
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The Galaxy S3 has the WORST screen among flagship smart phones. It's the worst by an staggering margin.

So you're going to ignore the links I posted which argue otherwise.

Listen - you can have your opinion. But when you state your opinion like it's the opinion of everyone else - you just look silly. Sincerely. Stop speaking in hyperbole.
 
Clearly you've not used Android 4.

Whilst Android 1, 2 and 3 (to a lesser degree) had a lot of issues (which were mostly down to UI inconsistencies and incompatibilities caused by crap hardware), 4 is a heck of a lot better. The S3 is a very, VERY popular phone, and actually performs a fair bit better than the iPhone 5.

You are either ignorant or a liar. which one is it?

java says that you are wrong, native apps say that you are wrong. The only advantage is CPU vs CPU, wich is useless because the iphone is faster in everything related to UI/apps (cocoa).

The galaxy s3 is worse on everything. There's evidence... It was an oversaturated pentile screen (****), not the same build quality, worse performance, a third of the iphone's GPU power.

Please, inform yourself, you should be ashamed.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/10
 
When this fantastical new Motorla device has more market share in the US than the iPhone, then you have my permission to call it "the iPhone killer". Until then, tis but a dream like all of the other "killer" devices before it.

Where's the iPod killer we heard so much about for so many years?
Where's the iPad killer we've repeatedly heard about?
iPhone killer?

The simple fact is that the iDevices have the best of breed sales numbers, market share, and share of consumer's minds than any other devices in the same categories. It is ridiculous for people to continue throwing around this "killer" moniker when they have failed to do so for over a decade.

When you set the bar at "killer", it is all or nothing. So far, nothing.
 
The galaxy s3 is worse on everything. There's evidence...
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http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/10

Uh, that Link you posted isn't "evidence" of anything. In fact that link describes the major difficulties in trying to quantify the performances between platforms.

Good cross platform benchmarks still don't really exist on smartphones these days. We're left describing experience with words

Ooo... that sounds really scientific and evidence heavy. So, where is this "evidence" that you speak of?
 
You are either ignorant or a liar. which one is it?

Bold words. You realize there could be other scenarios as well. Maybe he's just stating his opinion based on his use case.

This is what I find funny. Some people (not saying you) post FUD or whatnot about Android, Windows, etc and then turn around and call others ignorant, liars or other names.
 
You are either ignorant or a liar. which one is it?

java says that you are wrong, native apps say that you are wrong. The only advantage is CPU vs CPU, wich is useless because the iphone is faster in everything related to UI/apps (cocoa).

The galaxy s3 is worse on everything. There's evidence... It was an oversaturated pentile screen (****), not the same build quality, worse performance, a third of the iphone's GPU power.

Please, inform yourself, you should be ashamed.

http://www.anandtech.com/show/6330/the-iphone-5-review/10

Did you even bother looking at that review you just linked to?

The only comparison against the S3 they are showing, is a browser comparison on the stock browser, using SunSpider and BrowserMark. Hardly a scientific (or even real world) test of the phone's overall performance.

And no. I'm not ignorant, not am I a lier. I'm a developer who's worked with every iPhone handset, and a bunch of Android ones extensively, and work on Android and iOS every day of my working life.

Performance wise, they are damn close. Feature wise, the latest Android released just about take the lead, mainly due to having much more relaxed limitations on the OS.

Now, would you care to share what real world experience you have other than maybe having a play with one in the shop and reading a couple of reviews designed to test raw benchmark results?

Also, FYI resorting to whining and claiming someone who doesn't share your views to be ignorant and a lier just makes you look about as credible as a used car salesman.
 
If google put iOS on hat new phone then they might have a chance. But with google, be prepared to be seeing ads all over the place.

Android and Google made apps don't have any advets. I've never seen an advert on my nexus 4. Please try using android before just lying it makes you look foolish.
 
If google put iOS on hat new phone then they might have a chance. But with google, be prepared to be seeing ads all over the place.

Come back in 5 years time when you're old enough to understand how things work.

There is not a single advert in the Android operating system. There never has been and there never will be. The only ads you'll see on Android is in the exact same places you'd see them on iOS - in apps, and on websites.

Next.
 
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Gootorola or Googorola or Motoogle or Motoroogle FTW!

For the phone itself it should be called the Google RAZR X
 
Why not? The Nexus 4 has a higher PPI screen which is not AMOLED, double the RAM and has inductive charging and isn't full plastic. All other specs are extremely similar to the Galaxy S3

http://www.phonearena.com/phones/compare/Google-Nexus-4,Samsung-Galaxy-S-III/phones/7531,6330

Would be great if you could explain how you consider the GS3 high end but then exclude the Nexus 4. The only thing that isn't high-end about the Nexus 4 is it's price


The Nexus 4 lacks LTE, has poor internal storage options and only matches the S3 in terms of specs even though the S3 is about 6 months older. Also, looking at the marketting, I don't think even Google see this as a phone to challenge the iPhone and S3 think they could do better. The Nexus 4 is a solid phone but isn't a leader in any category, except for price.
 
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