That is not true. People on /r/googlepixel with Verizon pixels are already reporting that they're getting the OTA update. I'm on T-Mobile with a non-VZW Pixel 2XL. OTA updates for Pixels with T-Mobile SIMs are held back until T-Mobile validates things like VoLTE and WiFi Calling work, and are usually available after a week or two after initial release. But you can sideload the update manually, which I did last night on my 2XL. I took a gamble that VoLTE and WiFi Calling would still work (I didn't really care if they don't), and it seems that they still do, even though T-Mobile hasn't validated it yet. Also, AFAIK, even the Verizon Pixels, with the locked bootloader, can still have the update sideloaded before it's available OTA. Basically, anyone with a Pixel, regardless of who or where they bought it from, can be running Pie right now if they wanted to.
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That is not true. People on /r/googlepixel with Verizon pixels are already reporting that they're getting the OTA update. I'm on T-Mobile with a non-VZW Pixel 2XL. OTA updates for Pixels with T-Mobile SIMs are held back until T-Mobile validates things like VoLTE and WiFi Calling work, and are usually available after a week or two after initial release. But you can sideload the update manually, which I did last night on my 2XL. I took a gamble that VoLTE and WiFi Calling would still work (I didn't really care if they don't), and it seems that they still do, even though T-Mobile hasn't validated it yet. Also, AFAIK, even the Verizon Pixels, with the locked bootloader, can still have the update sideloaded before it's available OTA. Basically, anyone with a Pixel, regardless of who or where they bought it from, can be running Pie right now if they wanted to.
You say that like buying anything less than an i7 is morally ok.
Mediatek chips are garbage. Period. Full stop. I'd take a powersipping midrange Snapdragon over a dozen top-end Mediateks. The one part of the equation you're forgetting with regards to the chipset is the image processor. And Mediatek falls flatter than a cardboard cutout in a tornado in that area.
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Go tell that to my ex then, since her verizon OG Pixel was behind my Essential on getting Oreo.
[doublepost=1533649963][/doublepost]Better question... why are we even arguing over update timelines for inferior software on inferior chipsets?
On an Apple forum.
Your Htc phone will get android 9 but you’ll most likely have to wait until next year to get it. You will get security updates for 3 years but sometimes you won’t get it every month.
All Samsung flagships going back as far as 2011 have received 2 OS updates. All flagships will get updates. A midrange of budget android phone might not get any updates but you get what you pay for.
You can argue that a flagship android phone because of its cost should get more than two updates but to say it’s all up in the air we to wether a flagship android phone will be updated ever is simply not true.
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Yes because you should also get all the same features on your budget phone as any android flagship. How dare Samsung
not put their best displays and dual lenses into your $200 phone.
Of course it had issues being one of the first phones with that design, but looking back the design direction that Apple chose was the right now, even though they had to clear hurdles along the way.
Android “security” updates aren’t any better.
“Some Android phone makers are reportedly lying about the security updates on their smartphone”
http://uk.businessinsider.com/andro...bout-security-updates-report-2018-4?r=US&IR=T
That's called Android One. You can get $1000 Pixel or $200 Nokia and get the same android and updates, there are also very cheap Android One/Go phones in India/China.
So according your logic Android is crap (to put it mildly
). Then how you explain its popularity?Yes, some people get Android devices just because they cheap, but we don't have anything better which the same price.
Other people like to think different
, and again there is nothing that could beat Android by functionality and customization. Android is very far from perfect, but in many cases there is no viable alternatives to it.
Hell, I didn't really even have that problem with my 4. I guess I held it right.
Android One doesn't really work like that (anymore). Sure, handsets under that program will probably get more updates than other non-Pixel handsets, but the updates are still being pushed by OEMs. Take point the Mi A1. It's Android One, but Xiaomi handles the update pushing. Of course, updating these phones are a LOT easier, thus we can expect very timely updates. But this is not like Microsoft Windows where MS is the one responsible pushing all updates related to Windows.That's called Android One. You can get $1000 Pixel or $200 Nokia and get the same android and updates, there are also very cheap Android One/Go phones in India/China.
So according your logic Android is crap (to put it mildly
Yes, some people get Android devices just because they cheap, but we don't have anything better which the same price.
Other people like to think different
Something that is popular doesn't mean it's not-crap. You said it yourself, some people get Android devices because they're cheap. Besides, I never said that Android is crap. Heck, I have pointed out great handsets like the Mi A1. Doesn't mean I have to love Google nor the OS nor their mentality behind it though.
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And the fact that OEMs can even do this mean Google couldn't care less about security on Android. Google always take the silicon valley douche attitude of "hey we're giving it away for free, so it's not our problem."
Imagine if some PC OEMs intentionally trick their Windows devices to have some security patches while in reality they didn't. Microsoft would've been burned alive by the lawsuits.
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I agree. This is generally why I'm intentionally one or two generations behind. I go on Swappa 2-4 weeks after a new iPhone begins shipping and I look for a last-gen iPhone with AC+ that was babbied in a case and screen protector by some OCD guy that has to have the latest and great. Usually it can be had for several hundred dollars less than when it was new. I hate cases and screen protectors, so I take those off immediately and basically have a new phone with a year or more of AC+.
I bought my 128GB iPhone 7 Plus like this in November for $550, when I new one cost $870 a year earlier, and a new one that day cost $770. So that's 29-37% off, depending on how you count it.
Of course, this only works if there are lots of beautiful OCD nerds who pay top-dollar for the latest and greatest, buy the warranty, and immediately stuff their precious new toy in a case and screen protector.
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Indeed! I believe the it went on to be the longest-serving flagship iPhone (15 months), longest lifespan of any iPhone (4 years!). It broke first day sales records at the time of any phone, and it was the best-selling phone that year by a mile.
Also, it's innovative mid-frame with integrated antenna design was copied by pretty much every manufacturer that was making premium (non-plastic) smartphones for years. Heck, I think the Galaxy still used the mid-frame design until just last year or the year before.
Patently false. Android manufacturers drop support for their older android handsets earlier than Apple does. Even google did this with their phones. iPhones have the longest useful lifespan and thus enjoy the highest resale values.
Except iOS copied pull down notifications.
Notifications on the lock screen.
Almost every feature you mentioned was available on Android through Nova Launcher.
Google more copied launchers than Apple.
They really are going all out copying as much as they can.
They even copied the notch with the pixel 3.
They pretty much have to.
Isn’t android 5 the majority of android handsets?
Doesn’t really happen on iOS.
They don't have to apologize. But they are. Any objective person reading this thread would come to that conclusion. You in fact go on to apologize... I didn't say one was better than the other, why do you feel the need to even make the comment they are both great systems? Defensive? LOL
and then you insult someone you don't even know. making my point about the hate that evolves out of these threads for people tossing about labels because of their own insecurities.
Wait, are you deliberately trying to make my point for me? Don't need the help, but thanks!
When it comes to these two companies lol, I believe "pie" is the appropriate display mechanism for comparison purposes.
. Wouldn’t you agree? It’s going to be on someone’s face before this thread is through, haha. I can smell it comin’.
It's a good thing, so apps must support older devices. I wonder how much time will take until developers stop supporting my original iPad Mini (iOS 9).
Your saying material designs had rounded rectangles before apple?
Hahahahaha.
Sure and the pixel had a notch before the iPhone as well
I am uncertain if App Developers mention this, however in the change log it should mention if you want to upgrade/update to the next version you have to upgrade iOS (as you mentioned), if you prefer not to you will stay at the present version and will not gain XYZ features/benefits moving forward. In this manner the customer can make an informed decision if their believe updating to the latest OS is worth the trade-offs (if any).
Apple did, the Palm Pre had rounded corners everywhere, Apple copied them... So tired of the "They Copied Everything" phrase.. in this day and age mobile phones have been around long enough where everyone has copied everyone, Apple is not the company that came up with all this themselves as much as you want to think that.
