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snip...You'd find an App in the PlayStore stating required chipset and the Android you have passes with flying colours yet when you goto download or look at the very bottom info of the presented app: oh no! Not compatible and for no damn reason that the coder...
If the above in red is true, that’s a cryin’ shame.
 
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This isn't the reason for such a low install base for Android. The biggest reason is that most of the non-flagship phones see very few future updates. Heck, there are brand new Android phones that will never see Android 9 be able to be installed on them.
It should also be noted that not all Android users want the latest version therefore they can run older versions of the OS if they choose to with less concern that apps will suddenly become incompatible as happens if you are not running the latest release of iOS.
The iPhone/iPad user is not even given the choice to rollback to a previous release these days because when Apple release a new version of iOS they immediately stop signing the previous version. Fortunately Apple do not do the same with macOS.
 
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Project Treble is already slowly starting to make a difference.

Pie is available now on Pixel and Essential phones, and within a few weeks should be on at least another few big phones.

Of course, Samsung will take a long time (probably early 2019), and that's one reason the "Pie Chart" will never compare to iOS.

But Android is definitely getting better and I would have thought it would be up to 25% by the end of 2018.

That and Android One devices will get the updates faster because they don't have the bloatware on there *glares at Samsung*
 
Apple also sells $300ish phones, but they get the same software update as the flagship phone usually. Furthermore, Apple phones tend to continue to get OS updates for an average of 4 years after being discontinued. Whereas someone buying an Android phone can hope for only one major OS update sometime during the life cycle of a phone; rarely more. At the very least, this exposes Android users to significant security risk as they are running software with known vulnerabilities. So cost is not a good excuse.

Well my S7 is on it's third full OS update since I purchased it, so about the same as my iPhone 7. It's all very good getting updates for around 4 years with the iPhone (or any other phone for that matter) but the weak spot in this scenario is the battery. The batteries in both my S7 and my iPhone 7 are now showing signs of tiredness, yet it's not economic to replace them in either model.
 
I’m pretty sure Android has had gestures before Apple? And I see the usual pointless waving of private parts comparing the install base, pointless and crude. We may as well remind ourselves Android still easily dominates global market share as it’s equally as pointless.

But it’s great they have launched their new OS, may help to continue to push Apple to make a better one, maybe. Hopefully.
 
As an Android user, I don't miss having a lot of updates. When I was an Apple user, my phone did slow down quite a bit.
 
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That's because you have to fight off automatic updates like a f***** pest, it's he**uva annoying and constantly nagging. I'm still successfully on iOS 10 (on iPhone 6S), my mom lost the fight long ago and has to put up with a lot of s*** now.
This. How many people have accidentally updated iOS because they pressed “later” only to be greeted by what looks like an unlock screen? Not cool Apple.
 
I have 5 Android devices. 3 run Jellybean, 1 Kat Kat and, and 1 Marshmallow. One of the nice things about my Apple devices is I know it'll get updates for at least 3-5 years later.
 
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Yeah except my mothers phone running Android 5 can still run pretty much any App on Google Play. Can iOS 5 run 90% of the App Store?

This whole dig against Android is pointless unless you're obsessed with always having the latest and greatest. Older versions of Android are still good and completely usable. Probably more usable than older versions of iOS.

Weak argument. I like being able to receive updates (security and feature enhancements) for free well past the lifecycle of the phone. Who wouldn't like that? You are getting more bang for your buck.

Regarding your statement about iOS 5, nobody here or anywhere cares! Most folks have at least an iPhone 5 or higher these days which makes your argument null and void. The iPhone 5 came out 6 years ago and will support iOS 12 which launches in September.
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Well my S7 is on it's third full OS update since I purchased it, so about the same as my iPhone 7. It's all very good getting updates for around 4 years with the iPhone (or any other phone for that matter) but the weak spot in this scenario is the battery. The batteries in both my S7 and my iPhone 7 are now showing signs of tiredness, yet it's not economic to replace them in either model.

$29 bucks to replace the iPhone battery before the end of the year....
 
If Apple didn't make it so difficult for people to choose not to update or gave users the option to downgrade, I bet the number on iOS 11 would be well under 50%. The people I know that are on iOS 11 wish they didn't upgrade.

This is true for many iOS users. iPad Mini crawls on iOS 11 (iOS 12 I believe resolves this). Apple forces you through notifications to upgrade to the latest version and then revokes certification of prior versions. If you upgraded/updated and do not like the version you are SOL.

Android provides security patches routinely, most people only see the need to upgrade/update the OS if their want new features/capabilities, most are fearful their have to learn something new. With so many features and reshuffling of options over the years, users get lost and frustrated in an updated/upgraded device.

AndroidOS is the mobile equivalent to WindowsOS for POS, etc. If you have a tablet/phone that you give to your children to play games, do you really need an upgrade or security features as the device is only being used to play games (I don’t think so), what if you have a digital picture frame, do you require the most recent AndroidOS upgrade (nope).

People just get lost in the Pie charts and believe it is that simple, just because you can afford an iPhone and have the recent iOS updates, others who use AndroidOS do not know what to compare the experience to, it is good enough for their usage. I have interacted with iOS and AndroidOS users who don’t even know how to update/upgrade their phones/tablets. These users main concern is can I surf the web, use social media, use the phone to call/text, email and play a few games, pictures, videos maybe even do some banking. I don’t believe these users care or even use all the Assistive or advanced technologies/features that their present phone has to offer, so why bother to upgrade when the present is not broken. Most people upgrade the OS when their purchase a new device, and their do it because the battery does not last long, phone is damaged or broken and very few believer it is slower from when their initially purchased it.

Advanced tech in each iOS/AndroidOS release goes mostly unused, it is a way for companies to sell to the technical few and make headlines. Expensive phones are a fashion accessory and status symbol for many.
 
One of the truths is: most users don't see a need to upgrade their phones. That causes problems with security and stability, say if the OS upgrade fixes known issues, but some users don't mind.

Additionally, users don't need to upgrade their phone every year or two, so a user with a Samsung GS5 may be satisfied.

Suffice it to say, the Android ecosystem needs to clean itself up a bit. I came from a Gingerbread phone and while small I'm surprised to see it still on the list. The larger half is alien to me save for KitKat.
 
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It should also be noted that not all Android users want the latest version therefore they can run older versions of the OS if they choose to with less concern that apps will suddenly become incompatible as happens if you are not running the latest release of iOS.
The iPhone/iPad user is not even given the choice to rollback to a previous release these days because when Apple release a new version of iOS they immediately stop signing the previous version. Fortunately Apple do not do the same with macOS.

The people that choose not to update to the latest are a very small majority. The number that want to run an older version are so small that it's statistically insignificant. The average user (the 99.9%) want the latest and greatest available to them.

It'd be like asking someone if they want to keep their 2017 vehicle or upgrade to the new 2019 at no cost. Nearly nobody would choose to stay with the old model.
 
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I have 5 Android devices. 3 run Jellybean, 1 Kat Kat and, and 1 Marshmallow. One of the nice things about my Apple devices is I know it'll get updates for at least 3-5 years later.

A manufacturer problem not a Google/AndroidOS problem. For manufacturers the selling point for a new device is a new OS, if they sell you an AndroidOS device for sub $200 and provide you the option to upgrade up to 3-5 years, there will be very little if any reason for many to purchase another device next year. This would cut into operating costs/profits, an upgrade is used as a marketing and selling feature, most users don’t even know what OS is new or old. Their just see shiny and colourful features and purchase the product if the price is reasonable.
 
failureOS version 9

The slow adoption rate doesn't benefit developers, as they can't adopt newer technologies any sooner. It doesn't pay to develop an app that takes advantage of all the new OS features when the target user base is minimal.
 
This is true for many iOS users. iPad Mini crawls on iOS 11 (iOS 12 I believe resolves this). Apple forces you through notifications to upgrade to the latest version and then revokes certification of prior versions. If you upgraded/updated and do not like the version you are SOL.

Android provides security patches routinely, most people only see the need to upgrade/update the OS if their want new features/capabilities, most are fearful their have to learn something new. With so many features and reshuffling of options over the years, users get lost and frustrated in an updated/upgraded device.

AndroidOS is the mobile equivalent to WindowsOS for POS, etc. If you have a tablet/phone that you give to your children to play games, do you really need an upgrade or security features as the device is only being used to play games (I don’t think so), what if you have a digital picture frame, do you require the most recent AndroidOS upgrade (nope).

People just get lost in the Pie charts and believe it is that simple, just because you can afford an iPhone and have the recent iOS updates, others who use AndroidOS do not know what to compare the experience to, it is good enough for their usage. I have interacted with iOS and AndroidOS users who don’t even know how to update/upgrade their phones/tablets. These users main concern is can I surf the web, use social media, use the phone to call/text, email and play a few games, pictures, videos maybe even do some banking. I don’t believe these users care or even use all the Assistive or advanced technologies/features that their present phone has to offer, so why bother to upgrade when the present is not broken. Most people upgrade the OS when their purchase a new device, and their do it because the battery does not last long, phone is damaged or broken and very few believer it is slower from when their initially purchased it.

Advanced tech in each iOS/AndroidOS release goes mostly unused, it is a way for companies to sell to the technical few and make headlines. Expensive phones are a fashion accessory and status symbol for many.


You are correct in that Android is like Windows OS. Security is an afterthought and viruses run rampant on these platforms. That alone should get folks rallying together to force Google to do more. When your phone needs an antivirus application and you have to be cautious when downloading apps in the Play Store, Google is doing something wrong. We need updates and getting them frequently is never a bad thing.
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No it won't. The iPhone 5 doesn't even support iOS 11, let alone 12.
Oops, I meant iPhone 5s. 5 years ago.
 
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this shush (spelling?) gesture which can silence the phone is to be liked.

since iOS 9, iPhone has had the ability to not light up the display (for example when there are incoming Notifications) when the iPhone is placed on a surface face down.
i would like it to carry it to the next level with temporarily silencing the phone completely if placed face down.
 
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Internals are frequently upgraded as Android is very modular. It doesn't require a "whole OS" upgrade. So one could technically be running an older build of Android per se, but with latest internals.

This is true, but it's not the whole story either.

Yeah except my mothers phone running Android 5 can still run pretty much any App on Google Play. Can iOS 5 run 90% of the App Store?

Starting this month, any new Play Store apps need to be at least API level 26 (Android 8.0 Oreo), and starting November, that applies to updates to existing apps as well.

So good luck with Android 5.
 
this shush (spelling?) gesture which can silence the phone is to be liked.

since iOS 9, iPhone has had the ability to not light up the display when the iPhone is placed on a surface face down.
i would like it to carry it to the next level with temporarily silencing the phone completely if placed face down.

Plus, I am unsure why it has taken Google this long to have its device/Google search feature placed at the bottom, this should extend to web browsers as well. Unsure why iOS devices have the search/web address bar at the top like a desktop/laptop OS considering your fingers/thumb is near the bottom of the device. Maybe reachability would have not been required if Apple and Google actually used logic in UX/UI design. Good to see Google actually doing something in the right direction.

To pull down the dashboard/Control Centre from the top right of the device (iPhone X) lacks any logic in UX/UI functionality. I have to use my other hand or activate reachability to initiate it, poor design choice.
 
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The people that choose not to update to the latest are a very small majority. The number that want to run an older version are so small that it's statistically insignificant. The average user (the 99.9%) want the latest and greatest available to them.

It'd be like asking someone if they want to keep their 2017 vehicle or upgrade to the new 2019 at no cost. Nearly nobody would choose to stay with the old model.
There is also evidence that the latest iOS releases significantly slow down older devices (planned obsolescence).

This does not happen with Android as the latest version is only made available for devices that are suited.
 
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