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Google Reportedly Prepping Android-Based iPad Challenger

These are a new category of Computer called TABSLATES

Here come the new Android Tablet and HP's new Tablet. Guess what ...these are all tabslates as well as Apple's IPad..The point being Ipad is the Mother Of ALL TABSLATES and the leader in this field..
 
I find it amusing that there is no real confirmation of a tablet. Just mere hearsay. I will laugh my ass off if this is not even true about google creating a tablet.

Night trolls I forgot I'm not suppose to feed y'all
 
JediZenMaster said:
I find it amusing that there is no real confirmation of a tablet. Just mere hearsay. I will laugh my ass off if this is not even true about google creating a tablet.

Night trolls I forgot I'm not suppose to feed y'all
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Did you forget about two years of rumors about iPad?
 
Camera Issue

I love the idea of another gizmo so I was pretty excited for the iPad. However, no camera means no buy why would i not want to use this thing for skype. Kinda feels a little backwards too me to not include a front facing camera i mean the one in my Macbook Pro is pretty tiny. If the adding of a camera made it 2 pounds (exaggeration) I doubt people would notice much of a difference and if you have troubles with that you should invest in a gym membership instead of a $500 toy. Now this does not mean I won't get the Pad, but I will for damn sure wait for a camera or something that has one. :D
 
AidenShaw said:
You mean that walled garden subject to capricious rules from Apple?
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Given the choice, more people would more likely choose a gated community over an impoverished ghetto. :rolleyes:

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ipoddin said:
Ask AOL how that worked out for them.
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Yeah, although AOL was a gated playground. :)

And still, they beat out Compuserve, Prodigy, etc.
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JediZenMaster said:
True but up untill iphone 3.0 or so apple did support the original hardware. Can't say the same for google.
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No you can't because Google have only ever released one phone - the Nexus One.

It's up to the phone hardware manufacturers to update the software on their phones and so far they've not been doing it consistently. ie. it's up to HTC, Sony Ericsson and Motorola to port new operating system releases to their hardware. Each manufacturer has their own policy on when and if you get an update, entirely separate to Google's release policy.

With Apple you're dealing with one company making both software and hardware and so far they've been pretty good with updating the OS on old hardware. The fact their old hardware is almost identical to their new hardware helps there of course. The only significant change they've had since release is a change in RAM - the rest of the hardware is almost identical, just a little bit faster.
 
It's good to see Eric took good notes in all those board meetings. Trust google to be the best copycat of apple, bar none.

It's great to see other people have taken those famed redmond photocopiers and mantle of MS.
 
+1 to everyone who said the iPad would be a game changer.

And as before - the game is "follow the leader".

Everyone wins - Its up to you to decide whether you want fabulous gold, so-so silver or shameful, shameful bronze.
 
Analog Kid said:
First, there is a feeling that while the big players have fumbled around looking for a salable tablet design for years and failed. Apple appears to have hit the right formula, and the rewards they should reap from that innovation are being quickly hijacked by a bunch of knock-offs. I think the reaction is similar to the disgust people feel when they see the market flooded by cheap foreign knock-offs of successful products, just minus the elitism and xenophobia.
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That'll happen as soon as Nokia release a larger internet tablet than they've done previously. If they come out with a 10" tablet it'll be seen as an Apple knockoff despite the fact they've released 4 internet tablets in the past already and are on to their 6th OS release with Meego (essentially Maemo v6). I can't wait for all the socialist/European/Commie slights.


Analog Kid said:
Second, I think people feel Google is going out of its way to be a bully. Some of this is just the distaste that develops for big companies (and most people you ask on the street probably don't realize that Apple's market cap is bigger than Googles), but some of it is a feeling of "was it really worth coming all the way over here just to mess with me?".
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So far it's just reasonable competition but it always puzzles me how the morals of Silicon Valley are often at odds with society as a whole, especially outside of the US. Two tech behemoths slugging it out isn't going to be pretty to watch.


Analog Kid said:
Third, I think you're mistaken that the introduction of a Google tablet is a no-lose proposition for consumers. What happens if, because the available consumer demand is so subdivided, that no company can justify participating? What happens if, like HD-DVD and Blu Ray, consumers decide to wait out the OS battle and there are fewer consumers over all, or fewer third party resources put into supporting any given platform? Tablets aside, consumers of Google's other products will be hurt if they divert resources to fighting Apple in the tablet market. If Apple wins, Google's web services users will never recoup the lost resources that could have been spent on better search. If Google wins, Macbook users will never recoup the resources Apple spends trying to fight off Google.
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They're quite different products (and I'm aware an Android tablet hasn't been released). Google's is very cloud based and tied to Google's services. If you buy into the Google eco-system then ok for you - I don't. But, it does mean that most of what makes an Android tablet is essentially a good browser and Google's effort is in improving their web based offerings which is good for everyone.

Apple are way, way behind on online services. Even Nokia and Microsoft beat them there. That puzzles me. Everyone's doing online services but Apple's attempt is very poor and very expensive. Contrast Ovi with MobileMe for example. Because they're still in the old world with local apps and poor connectivity (local apps, no OTA updates, iTunes and USB only), they're spending massively on resources that only are of use to the iPhone/iPad and we're already hearing of rumours of Mac OSX slipping again because of the iPhone/iPad. Remember 10.5 slipping and being poor because of the iPhone release and then 10.6 being a fix for all that was wrong in 10.5 (ha!). They've got a big datacenter almost online for some reason but they're behind everyone else here. Let's hope it's not just for iAds.

I think they want to be more online service oriented but they've worked out WebKit isn't good enough for web applications. Google worked that out earlier, hence Chrome's threaded model and now building in Flash. Apple are more or less copying the model with WebKit2.
 
My Take

Here's my take on this all....

First, competition is always good. But I don't think Apple needs it to continue to be motivated and moving forward.

Second, what makes Apple products so good is they have control over the entire eco system. The software, the OS, the hardware. This makes the Apple experience well integrated and very smooth. It's always going to be tough for others to mimic this and get it all right... not to say that there will be other cool products from other companies, but to replicate the integration of the OS with the custom hardware, with applications like iTunes, and the apps on the devices... plus all the content... that's a HUGE order and most of these components have been developed over years... not something you toss together in a year or two.

Third... like the iPhone, Apple was not the first on the market, but it will be the first to do it right and now others will follow... while they're catching up, Apple will keep moving.

At any rate, weather your a Apple Fan Boy or not, because of Apple, we've had some of the coolest technology and gadget innovations in the past decade and I'm sure we're going to see more from everyone. Maybe even Microsoft? LOL! Oh sorry.... a momentary laps of reality! :D
 
igxqrrl said:
I won't argue with this in general, because it is a subjective matter. I had no problems using a friend's Nexus One.

What I fail to understand is the hostility toward the idea of a Google tablet. If the iPad is clearly superior, then you have nothing to lose. If the google tablet is better, then you as a consumer will have better options available. You should be excited about that. If a google tablet has some features that are better than the iPad and some that aren't, then Apple will have an incentive to improve the iPad.

As a consumer, the introduction of a google tablet is a no-lose proposition. The only explanation I can think of for hostility toward a google tablet is an irrational loyalty to Apple, or fear that a device you've already purchased is no longer the 'new hotness'. Am I missing something?

And by "You" I am not referring specifically to uberamd, but to all the posters who seem to be concerned about the mere possibility of a google tablet.
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I agree full with what you have said.

People who love Apple products NEED other products from outside that are almost as good, or even better.

This will push Apple to continually work to improve it's own products and hence they will gain.

The very very VERY worst thing (for any product) is to have no competition from outside, so you can just sit, year after year after year with no reason to upgrade it, as you have the market fully to yourself.

Be honest, any big company with the world of talent and hardware to pick from can easily beat the iPad (probably even now - Tegra?) but they can't as yet get the user interface right and that's what's matters BIG TIME.

And you can't just do the UI in 5 mins.

It will take someone big to get the software front end right. The actual hardware is the easy bit really, given the choice they have to pick from there days.

But as I say, it's foolish and childish to rubbish something just cos it's not Apple. Any device from anyone can be good or bad.
 
Popeye206 said:
Here's my take on this all....

First, competition is always good. But I don't think Apple needs it to continue to be motivated and moving forward.
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Sorry, but I think I'll have to disagree with you on this one.

Apple do drag their feet when it comes to hardware specs & need to be forced to keep up at times.

The iPhone hardware now if looking very old.

Nwe phones from others have superb OLED screens, 1Ghz SnapDragon CPU's and even resonable 3D graphics chips.

Apple do lovely front ends, but they really need to bring themselves up to sped on the hardware specs.

Be honest, if Apple led the way on hardware we'd all be playing games on Apples and not PC's
 
The google pad vs ipad will have the same outcome as the google phone vs the iphone.

We all know how that match up turned out :)
 
KJ500 said:
The google pad vs ipad will have the same outcome as the google phone vs the iphone.

We all know how that match up turned out :)
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And how is that then?

I have a Nexus One and its the best phone Ive ever had, does everything I need it to superbly and every single iphone user who has actually seen and used it have been impressed and have said they would consider that or another Android phone over an iPhone next.

So many haters and the only experience of an Android phone are video clips they have seen on Youtube.
 
opencube said:
And how is that then?

I have a Nexus One and its the best phone Ive ever had, does everything I need it to superbly and every single iphone user who has actually seen and used it have been impressed and have said they would consider that or another Android phone over an iPhone next.

So many haters and the only experience of an Android phone are video clips they have seen on Youtube.
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I've used the G1,the mytouch,the samsung moment,motorola droid and i used my DAD's nexus one. The android experience feels like a unfinished piece of software. I mean if someone loves android that's fine. But the thing is you need to respect that people like the iphone.

Anti Apple and anti-iphone people come on this board to make it their lifes mission to try to force people to like their products.

Your not going to change anyones mind. So if you want to throw embers around and start a fire go right ahead.
 
opencube said:
And how is that then?

I have a Nexus One and its the best phone Ive ever had, does everything I need it to superbly and every single iphone user who has actually seen and used it have been impressed and have said they would consider that or another Android phone over an iPhone next.

So many haters and the only experience of an Android phone are video clips they have seen on Youtube.
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If that is the case then I think many people really would LIKE Android.

Android is good on paper, but its implementation is not all that good. As a iPhone to Nexus One convert, I really can't stand the phone. I would love to go back to my iPhone, but nobody wants to buy my Nexus One from me (which also says something, because I had no problem selling my iPhone about 10 minutes after I posted it on craigslist).

Problems with Android?
  • The backgrounding implementation sucks. Applications are allowed to do anything in the background, and when I accidentally opened the uStream app and immediately went back to my homescreen the app continued to have my camera activated and drained my battery down to nothing in just 2 hours
  • Every app feels it deserves a place in the notification bar causing it to become a flustercuck quickly
  • The default email app doesn't allow signatures, period
  • There is no set function for the back button. Sometimes pressing back takes me from a SMS thread back to my SMS thread listings, but sometimes it takes me from my SMS thread to the home screen, then I need to go BACK to the SMS app and press back AGAIN to go back to the thread listing. Same goes for use in apps such as K-9, sometimes Back goes back to the message list, or the account list, or the previous message. There is absolutely no set function for the physical button!
  • The camera constantly tries to autofocus. My barcode reader can never read a barcode because it re-autofocuses every 2 seconds!
  • The applications are terrible. Simply terrible. I have PAID for games that give me 5fps. There are absolutely 0 games in the Market Place that match the quality of an iPhone game. Same with applications. Everything feels like you are running a Java application on OS X; it works but it just doesn't feel right
  • I needed to VOID MY WARRANTY to make my Android phone "open". I had to unlock the bootloader on my Nexus One to allow me to do whatever I want with my "open" Android phone, and in doing so I void my warranty. There is no un-do like there is when jailbreaking. Every boot shows the picture of an unlocked padlock. HTC will know, without a doubt, that my phone is unlocked if I ever try to get it serviced. How is Android open if I need to void my warranty to get open functionality?
  • Oh, and I can't figure out how to get flash to work on my Nexus One. All these people saying "Z0mG Andr0id pwns because of flash" seem to be nuts. I went to adobe's site and it said flash wasn't available on my device. Wow, so what is the selling point of Android again?
  • My G1 didn't get any updates past 1.6. Lovely. At least Apple still rolls out updates for the 2G iPhone.
  • Software updates are at the mercy of the carrier/manufacturer. They decide if I am allowed to get the latest software, and when I can get it. That is hardly fair. But OMG android is open... right?
  • Android has the worst copy-paste implementation in the world. Why the heck didn't they take a page out of Apples book?
  • Terrible onscreen keyboard too. I love texting, I have spent weeks TRYING to be a good texter on this keyboard, and it still is hard for me.

Android is over-hyped BS for techno-nerds who want the illusion of an open device that makes them feel like a power-user. As someone who values the integration of software and hardware Android simply doesn't cut it. The beauty, simplicity, and performance of iPhone applications clearly spoiled me because a quick browse through the Android marketplace makes me feel like I am looking through a collection of Playstation 1 games when I already have a Playstation 3.
 
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