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They way over paid for Motorola.Thy haven't made money in years.Google is way too loose with their cash.They purchased Nest.They have 2 products and Google paid 3 BILLION.
If you have so much money to burn google.I need 3k to get my car fixed from a car accident.

Remember when they offered $6B for Groupon? Crazy.
 
I remember the old days when Moto was a company with pride and respected by others. Now they've been passed around like old chicken that nobody wants to eat.
 
A company that makes money from selling actual hardware befuddles those who are used to a "ad-based" business model. The Google boys were in over their heads and lacked the expertise/knowledge to manage it. Their shot-gun approach to buying and selling businesses screams lack of vision!!! Sounds to me like a fortune teller would clean-up with Eric Schmidt.
 
Actual π/2 is more fitting because that is the same as a 180º change. :)

$e billion?
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Buy high, sell low. Way to take care of the shareholder's money, Google!

This also goes to show that Google's only interest in Moto was that they thought they could weaponize standards essential patents. Once the various judges told them to buzz off, they finally gave up.

Total wasted shareholder money: $15 billion+ when you count the two years of covering Moto's losses, the failed lawsuits, and the discount they gave Lenovo.

The dislikefor google still is strong here I see .


Actually with the tax dedictions, patents and now this money :


http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01...nal-motorola-deal/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0

"Not so fast.

Breaking down the admittedly messy math shows that Google didn’t exactly lose nearly $10 billion on the deal. Here are some back of the envelope calculations.

When Google bought Motorola, the hardware maker had about $3 billion in cash on hand and nearly $1 billion in tax credits. So that brings the original deal’s effective price down to about $8.5 billion.
Then, Google sold Motorola’s set-top box business to Arris for nearly $2.4 billion. That lowers the effective price to roughly $6.1 billion.
Now, Google is selling Motorola Mobility — primarily the handset business, along with a few patents — for $2.9 billion. So we’re at about $3.2 billion.
It’s worth noting a few more things. In a regulatory filing in 2012, Google disclosed that it valued Motorola’s overall “patents and developed technology” at about $5.5 billion."


But do go on dislikingone company above another for absolutetly no reason that makes any sense.

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A company that makes money from selling actual hardware befuddles those who are used to a "ad-based" business model. The Google boys were in over their heads and lacked the expertise/knowledge to manage it. Their shot-gun approach to buying and selling businesses screams lack of vision!!! Sounds to me like a fortune teller would clean-up with Eric Schmidt.

Always funny people with absolutly no clue what they are talking about.
And worse they can google it and be informed in a minute, oh the irony .

http://dealbook.nytimes.com/2014/01...nal-motorola-deal/?_php=true&_type=blogs&_r=0
Not so fast.

Breaking down the admittedly messy math shows that Google didn’t exactly lose nearly $10 billion on the deal. Here are some back of the envelope calculations.

When Google bought Motorola, the hardware maker had about $3 billion in cash on hand and nearly $1 billion in tax credits. So that brings the original deal’s effective price down to about $8.5 billion.
Then, Google sold Motorola’s set-top box business to Arris for nearly $2.4 billion. That lowers the effective price to roughly $6.1 billion.
Now, Google is selling Motorola Mobility — primarily the handset business, along with a few patents — for $2.9 billion. So we’re at about $3.2 billion.
It’s worth noting a few more things. In a regulatory filing in 2012, Google disclosed that it valued Motorola’s overall “patents and developed technology” at about $5.5 billion.
 
They get to keep the patent portfolio which is worth some cash in licensing.

But those aren't home run patents they can use to club Apple and Microsoft over the head with.

Anybody have access to the WSJ website? Lenovo expects the deal to give it a shortcut into the US market and expects to sell 100 million handsets in the year after it completes the deal.

How convenient. Motorola just happens to have warehouses of unsold handsets. :p

The dislikefor google still is strong here I see .
As are the ranks of MR Google defenders. They must be running out of "20% Time" projects in Mountain View.

It’s worth noting a few more things. In a regulatory filing in 2012, Google disclosed that it valued Motorola’s overall “patents and developed technology” at about $5.5 billion.

That was before the courts struck down the Motogoogle patent lawsuits. See above.
 
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Google purchased Motorola to patent troll apple and Microsoft.

Google fail. Those FRAND patents are the wrong tool for the job.

Silly google. The shills will wail and rip their garments.

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Remember when they offered $6B for Groupon? Crazy.

And fools want Apple to go down the same road and make some ignorant ass multibillion dollar acquisition just because.

Apple is never going to be an AOL/Time Warner, so stop begging people.
 
As are the ranks of MR Google defenders. They must be running out of "20% Time" projects in Mountain View.

Ah and paranoia as well .

Is it just out of spite that android outsells ios or is it something else ? The command of jobs to wage war on them perhaps?
 
Google essentially loses $10 billion and the stock drops 1.5%.
Apple has a BLOCKBUSTER quarter and the stock tanks +10%.
#WallStreetLogic
 
I have seen those wrong numbesr repeatedly, does people actually know about maths?

From John Gruber:

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How Much Did Google Really Lose on Motorola? ★
Michael de la Merced, writing for NYT Dealbook:

When Google bought Motorola, the hardware maker had about $3 billion in cash on hand and nearly $1 billion in tax credits. So that brings the original deal’s price down to about $8.5 billion.

Then, Google sold Motorola’s set-top box business to Arris for nearly $2.4 billion. That lowers the price down to roughly $6.1 billion.

Now, Google is selling Motorola Mobility — primarily the handset business, along with a few patents — for $2.9 billion. So we’re at about $3.2 billion.

I’m with him so far, but when he takes Google’s claims that Motorola’s patents (which Google will retain rights to) are worth $5.5 billion, because that’s what Google claims they’re worth, that’s where he loses me. Motorola’s patents have lost in court every time they’ve taken them to court. E.g. the chart on this post from The Verge.
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I’m with him so far, but when he takes Google’s claims that Motorola’s patents (which Google will retain rights to) are worth $5.5 billion, because that’s what Google claims they’re worth, that’s where he loses me. Motorola’s patents have lost in court every time they’ve taken them to court. E.g. the chart on this post from The Verge.
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Yap, but then you can say that Google has made a bad deal but you can't say that they have lost $10 billion
 
Wow, didn't see that sale coming. I wonder why? All the reviews I've heard about the Moto X have been quite positive.

The techies on the blogs raved about the moto X, as they did the HTC one and the nexus 5. However in reality none of them really sold that well.
 
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I remember the old days when Moto was a company with pride and respected by others. Now they've been passed around like old chicken that nobody wants to eat.
It's really sad because Motorola couldn't sell its Android-based offerings very well due to bad marketing/advertising, just like HTC and Sony.

On the other hand, iOS 7-based devices feature some of the worst UI work to ever come out of a major tech company and sell like hotcakes.
 
If you don't create anything after buying a company, how can you expect to make money on it? I might be wrong, but I don't think that under Google's watch that they actually produced a phone worth selling.
I'm sure your inbox has already blown up with this, so I apologize. However, Moto X and Moto G?!

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the techies on the blogs raved about the moto x, as they did the htc one and the nexus 5. However in reality none of them really sold raft well.
lol.
 
Let's not forget that the US government doesn't buy Lenovo hardware because they suspect it's infested by Chinese-government hardware. For that very reason, I'll never buy a Motorola handset again. I won't support companies from communist countries. Apart from that, Lenovo makes lots of crappy hardware without proper support.
 
Since when is capatialism a bad thing?

I never said Google didn't invest in US in similar ways. You concluded that from my statement all on your own.

I never said Apple's app ecosystem wasn't global, but you do have to concede the ecosystem generates percentage of jobs in the US, without which would not exist to the same extent.

what did i say about capitalism? you used the word disregard and i highlighted how a word like that is never used to describe something apple does no matter the consequences.

you started your post of by talking about googles disregards for motorola employees and your next paragraph was highlighting what apple is doing domestically which of course is unrelated to this subject unless you are trying to make some comparison which you now say you werent. if i misunderstood then what was the purpose of mentioning apples positive impact and lack of disregard for the US economy and workforce?

what if just by pure happenstance no successful app originated from the US would that mean apple was doing less for the US economy/people?

i think its pretty obvious that the word ecosystem means much more than just one entity. back when we were supposed to be happy with web apps the demand from customers and interest from indie devs created the seed for the ecosystem which apple then took over and made more streamlined although unsearchable.
 
http://www.forbes.com/sites/jeanbap...s-with-motorola-sale-to-lenovo-keeps-patents/
Google Profits Billions With Motorola Sale To Lenovo, Keeps Patents

However, on the bright side, when Google acquired Motorola it also inherited a cash pile of $3.2 billion, as well as $2.4 billion in deferred tax assets, for a net acquisition cost of $6.9 billion.

Google then sold Motorola’s set-top box business to Arris Group ($2.3 billion) and its factories to Flextronics ($75 million), further reducing the total acquisition cost to $3.85 billion.

Net-net, after the Lenovo deal closes, Google spent less than a billion dollars for patents that it originally estimated was worth $5.5 billion. Admittedly, Motorola also ran up close to $2 billion in operating losses, but that still leaves Google with a $3 billion profit!
 
That sounds awful......

buying something in 10 plus billions and selling in 2 plus billions later. Seems to me like a loss. More to startle me is the fact Motorola Mobility sounds in the moment of buying like an excellent fit to streighten the Android field leaded by Google. Me, being in the conspirancy frame of mind, dont think so a quarter loss is the principal reason in this selling. And anyways, Google have deep pockets that can sustain losses in a promising portfolio.....:confused:.....:eek:


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