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Google, primarily a search company, has suddenly forayed into hardware, application software, OS development, Mobile OS development, web browser development, peripherals, media distribution, and likely TBA, fast food chains and department stores.

"Suddenly"... isn't that a bit dramatic. A few of those purchases were from a few years back.

Google purchased YouTube in 2006.
Google purchased 'Android' in 2005

Google are an internet based company - Search Engine, so I'd say its a natural progression to venture into Web browsers, and ( web based ) operating systems, Chrome. Nice integration with their online tools.

Google cannot stay purely as a Search Engine, otherwise they'd probably stagnate - to survive long term they have to look into new opportunities.


That's the point.

While Apple was 'smearing the bulls-eye' by producing droves of peripherals and redundant products, amidst their already convoluted product lines, they were failing miserably.

In 1997, when Steve Jobs returned and paired down Apple's offerings significantly, things turned around dramatically.

Apple had always been a computer hardware/software company.

Google, primarily a search company, has suddenly forayed into hardware, application software, OS development, Mobile OS development, web browser development, peripherals, media distribution, and likely TBA, fast food chains and department stores.

Their "me too" motivation has become blatantly obvious, while it has treaded, quite heavily, upon MS's territory.

All in all, competition, from this perspective, isn't all that bad, if not highly amusing.
 
We need competition in the marketplace. I'm greatly annoyed at Apple for raising the general prices for eBooks, I hope Google pushes things in the opposite direction.
 
Apple had always been a computer hardware/software company.
And now they are in the consumer electronics industry, the brick and mortar retail industry, the videogame, book, newspaper, music, TV and movie distribution industries, mobile ad industry, etc..

Excuse me? Make eBooks? I said sell eBooks, maybe you should learn how to read/comprehend.
And you think Google never, ever thought about how to monetize all that work until the iPad came out? Seriously? Google never thought about selling eBooks? Really? Deductive reasoning is your friend.


The same can't be said about Google. At all. The pile of crap they've gotten into spans so far you couldn't even keep track of what they're doing if you tried.
It's actually pretty easy to keep track of what Google is doing. For starters pay attention to companies not named Apple. ;)


Lethal
 
"Suddenly"... isn't that a bit dramatic. A few of those purchases were from a few years back.

Google purchased YouTube in 2006.
Google purchased 'Android' in 2005

Google are an internet based company - Search Engine, so I'd say its a natural progression to venture into Web browsers, and ( web based ) operating systems, Chrome. Nice integration with their online tools.

Google cannot stay purely as a Search Engine, otherwise they'd probably stagnate - to survive long term they have to look into new opportunities.
Google can't stay purely as a search engine? What a joke. 97% of their revenue is from ads. Instead of trying to replace everything on the internet that already exists in a better form they should stick with what they're good at.

And now they are in the consumer electronics industry, the brick and mortar retail industry, the videogame, book, newspaper, music, TV and movie distribution industries, mobile ad industry, etc..
LMAO! You're seriously grasping at straws here. Everything you listed exists in one application that Apple has. Keep trying. You go from listing multiple applications to listing one application.

And you think Google never, ever thought about how to monetize all that work until the iPad came out? Seriously? Google never thought about selling eBooks? Really? Deductive reasoning is your friend.
Let me guess, you think it's just a coincidence that Google announces this a month after the iPad is released? Keep on dreaming, buddy.

It's actually pretty easy to keep track of what Google is doing. For starters pay attention to companies not named Apple. ;)

Easy to track what Google is doing? Don't make me laugh. When you have company CEO's saying that you have your foot in everything you've got a problem. But enjoy thinking I only pay attention to one company, because it's pretty clear you are running out of things to reply with. ;)
 
"Suddenly"... isn't that a bit dramatic. A few of those purchases were from a few years back.

By Microsoft's standards, Google's transformations occurred 'overnight.' ;)

Google are an internet based company - Search Engine, so I'd say its a natural progression to venture into Web browsers, and ( web based ) operating systems, Chrome. Nice integration with their online tools.

Google cannot stay purely as a Search Engine, otherwise they'd probably stagnate - to survive long term they have to look into new opportunities.

Their search and ad revenues dwarf all peripheral revenues combined.

Sure, following in Apple's footsteps will help them remain viable. :rolleyes:

And now they are in the consumer electronics industry, the brick and mortar retail industry, the videogame, book, newspaper, music, TV and movie distribution industries, mobile ad industry, etc..

Videogame, book, newspaper, music, TV, movie distribution - evolution of a singular iTunes Software/Store model.

Consumer electronics industry - iPod & variants, i.e. iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad, etc., devices integrated with the singular iTunes Store for distributing and consuming content.

Brick and mortar stores - promote Apple's solutions, hands-on.

Apple's expansions are unified by their integrated hardware/software model - this is hardly a worthy comparison.
 
LMAO! You're seriously grasping at straws here. Everything you listed exists in one application that Apple has. Keep trying. You go from listing multiple applications to listing one application.
In every post do I have to remind you how many times Apple wasn't the first to market? And how does Apple having a 'universal store front' with the iTMS umbrella change the fact that over the past decade or so Apple has reached far beyond its roots as a computer hardware and OS provider? Google branching out is no different than Apple branching out. The conception of an 'app store' is nothing new, but Apple has been able execute it better, in part, because of their vertical integration.

Let me guess, you think it's just a coincidence that Google announces this a month after the iPad is released? Keep on dreaming, buddy.

Easy to track what Google is doing? Don't make me laugh. When you have company CEO's saying that you have your foot in everything you've got a problem. But enjoy thinking I only pay attention to one company, because it's pretty clear you are running out of things to reply with. ;)
Google talked about Edition in 2009 but being so keen on everything that goes on I'm sure you already knew that.


Apple's expansions are unified by their integrated hardware/software model - this is hardly a worthy comparison.
I'm not saying Apple lacks vertical integration. I'm saying that Apple of has a much broader reach than it did just 10 years ago. The business of selling computers is much different than the business of distributing movies.


Lethal
 
and don't forget keeping the lights on at barnes and noble while they sit on the shelf

And the gas and oil to get the customer to Barnes & Noble (and home again) to buy the book, and the gas and oil to get the employee to Barnes & Noble (and home again) to sell the book to the customer, and the gas and oil to get the janitor to Barnes & Noble (and home again) to clean up after the customer and the employee...

It's suddenly become obvious that the only people who buy paper books are people who hate the Earth. ;)
 
Is anyone else sick of Google yet?

I liked them so much more when they were just a search engine, email and maps company.

Ahhh, the good ol' days....
 
Google branching out is no different than Apple branching out.

It is very different.

You're equating the hyper extension of a search & ad company, which has absolutely no foundation in hardware, software, OS development, or retail, to that of a company which has always had a foundation in these areas.

I'm not saying Apple lacks vertical integration. I'm saying that Apple of has a much broader reach than it did just 10 years ago.

One would more likely consider this a natural evolution for Apple - in regard to Google, not so much.

The business of selling computers is much different than the business of distributing movies.

The foundation of Apple's integrated model makes the business of distributing media not so much of a stretch, if not a no brainer.

This is not the case for Google.
 
I don't have a serious problem with Google pulling a Microsoft and expanding into areas they clearly aren't good at, but I do have a problem with Google trying to gain market share for their inferior products by going with a "loss leader" approach (like giving away Android for free).

I also have a problem with Google's rapidly expanding power, which should be of serious concern to any rational person. If you get tired of Apple's products or services, you go with someone else. Apple doesn't have controlling power over any single market with any of its products. They may have a dominant share in some markets, but they don't have controlling power. You can easily buy music from other sources and put it on non-Apple devices. Apple has no ultimate control over you.

If you get tired of Google, who are you going to go with? They are quickly becoming the exclusive gateway to the world's information. That should scare even the most ardent Google fan.
 
In every post do I have to remind you how many times Apple wasn't the first to market? And how does Apple having a 'universal store front' with the iTMS umbrella change the fact that over the past decade or so Apple has reached far beyond its roots as a computer hardware and OS provider? Google branching out is no different than Apple branching out. The conception of an 'app store' is nothing new, but Apple has been able execute it better, in part, because of their vertical integration.
I absolutely love how condescending someone can be when they clearly have no grasp as to what the conversation is about. You are trying to make this way simpler than they really are. Over the past decade Apple has gone into post-pc entertainment devices as a whole. Over the past decade Google has gone into biotech, healthcare, e-mail, computer OS, web browser, phones, blogging host, photo editing software, word editing software, checkout service, internet service providing, electricity, video hosting, news, books scanning and cataloguing(currently in a class action lawsuit for), where everything is, your DNA records and friendships(Buzz, another of which they have a class action lawsuit going on) just to name a few. ;)

Google talked about Edition in 2009 but being so keen on everything that goes on I'm sure you already knew that.
Wow, October 16th 2009? There were surely no rumors of Apple's tablet then now were there? I'm actually not surprised that this is the case considering Google has their hand up everyone's ass. But being so keen on everything that goes around I'm sure you already knew that it's only a matter of time until your beloved Google knows and owns everything you do on the internet just because they can.

I'm not saying Apple lacks vertical integration. I'm saying that Apple of has a much broader reach than it did just 10 years ago. The business of selling computers is much different than the business of distributing movies.
Yes, because everyone knows you can easily sell post-pc devices without any software that benefits from the features they can do. :rolleyes:
 
And the gas and oil to get the customer to Barnes & Noble (and home again) to buy the book, and the gas and oil to get the employee to Barnes & Noble (and home again) to sell the book to the customer, and the gas and oil to get the janitor to Barnes & Noble (and home again) to clean up after the customer and the employee...

It's suddenly become obvious that the only people who buy paper books are people who hate the Earth. ;)

Think of all the wasted living space dedicated to bookshelves - many need a catalogue system just to locate a book their looking for.

In a NYC apartment, the space alone required to house these additional 'tenants' can exceed $1,000/month - pretty extravagant, by anyone's standards.

If you get tired of Google, who are you going to go with? They are quickly becoming the exclusive gateway to the world's information. That should scare even the most ardent Google fan.

Good point.

Big Brother has been officially dwarfed.
 
O.K now google is starting to be a very annoying company.

Is like every move they make is a copy from other PRODUCTS.
They hire "GENIUSES" to copy other companies ideas.

Name one thing google is fully credited for creating? Im not talking about improving like what the ydid with google maps or gmail.

I MEAN IN HOUSE INNOVATION/CREATION.

If they keep taking what others have already done, and improving it to make it usable and desirable, they will be replicating Apple completely. There should be a law against that.
 
Wow, October 16th 2009? There were surely no rumors of Apple's tablet then now were there? I'm actually not surprised that this is the case considering Google has their hand up everyone's ass. But being so keen on everything that goes around I'm sure you already knew that it's only a matter of time until your beloved Google knows and owns everything you do on the internet just because they can.

Shhhh, you're going to get us all in trouble!

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Is anyone else sick of Google yet?

I liked them so much more when they were just a search engine, email and maps company.

Ahhh, the good ol' days....

Exactly. Google is like a heavy metal band that releases an excellent album at its debut as an independent and intellectually honest group, just to sell out once success comes and greedy record labels start demanding musical and stylistic changes...Apple, on the other hand, continues to be a champion of autonomous innovation and disregard to what others say...may it continue that way...:rolleyes:
 
No, I am not...in fact, pretty much everything that I've said and predicted over the last 3 years has happened, even when I seem to exaggerate my claims in order to make them more "graphic"...

Google IS a copycat company that has profitted a LOT from Schmidt's presence in Apple's board...they also LOVE to benefit from other companies' R&D and market tests before taking risks and investing something themselves...other than search engines and Google Earth, Google has little to show us...they are getting much closer to the likes of Adobe and MSFT now, while distancing themselves from the "rebel" mentality spearheaded by Apple since the 70s.

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Google can't stay purely as a search engine?

Why should Google stay purely as a search engine? Why shouldn't they branch out and investigate new opportunities? Google is like Apple, to make as much $$$ as possible which means expanding the business, with probable new product lines.

With that statement you should be saying that Apple should never have branched out recently into media distribution and mobile platforms? Once again, double standards rule supreme ...

Some people have tunnel vision - companies shouldn't evolve and explore new opportunities..
 
Videogame, book, newspaper, music, TV, movie distribution - evolution of a singular iTunes Software/Store model.

Consumer electronics industry - iPod & variants, i.e. iPhone, iPod Touch, iPad, etc., devices integrated with the singular iTunes Store for distributing and consuming content.

Brick and mortar stores - promote Apple's solutions, hands-on.

Apple's expansions are unified by their integrated hardware/software model - this is hardly a worthy comparison.

using that model of reasoning, everything google does will be tied into their integrated web model.

People keep loving the concept of reduced SKU's since TROSJ but the overall width of Apples activities has increased significantly, to Apples and shareholders benefits. If Apple had stuck at being a computer company, it would be stuck between a rock and a hardplace.
 
It is very different.

You're equating the hyper extension of a search & ad company, which has absolutely no foundation in hardware, software, OS development, or retail, to that of a company which has always had a foundation in these areas.

What, companies developing something from nothing? that sounds like a startup, oh wait, that couldnt happen, to anyone, unless its apple, tehn its good.


One would more likely consider this a natural evolution for Apple - in regard to Google, not so much.
its a completely natural evolution for google. Google are developing methods to increase their advertising control. Moving into handsets, OS and the likes allows for this to occur. Apple moving into advertsiing is just as natural, but in your view of the world, should be unnatural


The foundation of Apple's integrated model makes the business of distributing media not so much of a stretch, if not a no brainer.

This is not the case for Google.

a foundation that was created when apple was a computer hardware/OS company. So apple had to evolve their model to a future that allows them to continue to make money. But of course, taht is only natural when apple does it, but not if any other company does it.
 
Why should Google stay purely as a search engine? Why shouldn't they branch out and investigate new opportunities? Google is like Apple, to make as much $$$ as possible which means expanding the business, with probable new product lines.

With that statement you should be saying that Apple should never have branched out recently into media distribution and mobile platforms? Once again, double standards rule supreme ...

Some people have tunnel vision - companies shouldn't evolve and explore new opportunities..
I said they COULD. They are getting 3% from all of these services just to have control on everything. They aren't making any revenue from this. They are just doing it to do it. Apple on the other hand, 60% of their revenue is from their mobile devices. There's no double standard here. Apple enterered the post-pc entertainment device business and has 60% of their revenue from it. Google has entered god knows how many things and has 3% revenue from it. You don't see a problem with this?:rolleyes:

Keep making blanket statements such as "tunnel vision" when you have nothing to back yourself up with.
 
Why should Google stay purely as a search engine? Why shouldn't they branch out and investigate new opportunities? Google is like Apple, to make as much $$$ as possible which means expanding the business, with probable new product lines

Why? No reason they shouldn't improve their bottom line, however a GOOG statement that they intend to "inhale a company each month"
can and will lead to them choking on their new aquisition based 'innovation'.
 
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