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Google Shutting Down Stadia Cloud Gaming Platform

Can anyone tell me why Google (Alphabet) is considered a good company?

The only thing they do well is search and even that’s gotten annoying in recent years. I even hate gmail. Chrome is an insane resource hog. Their money comes almost entirely from advertising which is not a thing any consumer likes or cares about in a company.

They always make ugly interfaces and constantly shut down products..

I don’t get it..
 
diamond.g said:
What makes you think the Switch is a 9th gen console?
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Good question, I think there were only 6 Nintendo consoles prior to it.

NES
SNES
N64
Gamecube
Wii
Wii U

If you want to count Switch OLED as a new gen over original Switch which is very debatable, even then it is 8th gen.

And arguably it is vastly different than all 6 of those since it is a component device handheld and docked. It is really like a good mix of a DS and a Wii

The only thing I can guess is they were considering Switch, Switch Lite and Switch OLED 3 different gens which is borderline ridiculous if so.
 
icolove said:
Apple has a solid history of killing off things as well.
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Not really. Sure, Apple kills things that have reached the end of their life, have solid replacements already, and/or have fallen behind competitors offerings. But Google has a product-killing culture ... mercilessly killing anything that isn't an immediate blockbuster hit. Stadia was, as far as the tech goes, the best streaming service on the market but they never even really gave it a good shot IMO.

Apple has plenty of "modesty" successful services that probably don't have that many more subscribers than Stadia did (Apple News, the Apple gaming service, etc) but they're happy to keep plugging away at niches and slowly improving and growing them.
 
I sometimes use GeForce Now to play Fortnite (as all my computes are Macs), the problem with cloud gaming is that it works great 95% of the time but occasionally it stutters for no obvious reason, especially when you're about to shoot the last remaining player in the face.
 
ProfessionalFan said:
Good question, I think there were only 6 Nintendo consoles prior to it.

NES
SNES
N64
Gamecube
Wii
Wii U

If you want to count Switch OLED as a new gen over original Switch which is very debatable, even then it is 8th gen.

And arguably it is vastly different than all 6 of those since it is a component device handheld and docked. It is really like a good mix of a DS and a Wii

The only thing I can guess is they were considering Switch, Switch Lite and Switch OLED 3 different gens which is borderline ridiculous if so.
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Yeah it was just an odd statement to make.
 
Reason077 said:
Not really. Sure, Apple kills things that have reached the end of their life, have solid replacements already, and/or have fallen behind competitors offerings. But Google has a product-killing culture ... mercilessly killing anything that isn't an immediate blockbuster hit. Stadia was, as far as the tech goes, the best streaming service on the market but they never even really gave it a good shot IMO.

Apple has plenty of "modesty" successful services that probably don't have that many more subscribers than Stadia did (Apple News, the Apple gaming service, etc) but they're happy to keep plugging away at niches and slowly improving and growing them.
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What's the point of keeping something alive that isn't embraced by consumers in a specific industry? Microsoft, Steam and Sony are in better positions to actually bring streaming gaming to the masses.

The technology behind Stadia is obviously going to live on, keep improving and improve other Google products.

Apple kills things off, but on the flip side. Apple is ridiculously conservative in the products they bring to market, likely because all they are is an American smartphone company and all the things that attach to them.
 
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SactoGuy18 said:
NOW you wonder how long the Nest product line will continue to exist, especially their mesh routers. :(
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Their mesh routers give them valuable insight into user browsing traffic, which strengthens their advertising platform. I'd expect this to continue to be supported.
 
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lol they were doomed from the beginning. Most people's internet wasn't good enough then and it's mostly the same now. Having your whole business model depend on a dedicated game streaming service makes no sense. Xcloud and PlayStation Now (I think that's the PS version) are additional services to your console Live/Plus subscription. They are there for convenience more than anything. I only use Xcloud when I'm traveling, and even then it's rare I'll fire it up on my iPad. I do console streaming rather than Xcloud, but I have played with Xcloud here and there. Unless they get the latency down, game streaming won't ever fully catch on. I always say that it's decent enough for single player games, but will likely not ever be good enough for competitive online play, especially with FPS games.
 
BuffaloTF said:
I think the more correct problem they were looking to solve was barriers of entry. Hardware purchases. They were the hardware, and you could get it for free. It worked with any controller, or you could buy theirs if you wanted. You could also subscribe to the service for a promised, never delivered, 4K stream. And some free games… but games were all full retail price. The notion of low barriers of entry are eliminated when you are asked to buy a game for 60 bucks that you can’t do anything with should you like the game and hate the service. And this also came at a time when GeForce Now was beta and offered up for free access to said beta - with the big selling point of all the games you already own on Steam or Epic Games being there for you to play.

Oh, and then it launched with no games (well, Destiny 2). And then it added very old, aged games. And they wanted full price for them. And the visual quality was poor. The stream would seem fine then it would freeze for a moment, then play everything in fast forward as it caught back up. It’s bad, in spite of those that refuse to admit it.
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Hmm, interesting.
I always assumed, as someone with zero interest in gaming, that what was being sold was like Netflix – I pay a certain price per month and get to play whatever games I want. (I think that's what Apple Arcade is, right?)
So the streaming was a way to achieve that while not requiring that I own an XBox and a PSP and a Nintendo and a PC and ...

But it seems like they were "solving" a very different problem, and one that's substantially less important!

So yeah, I have to agree that the scheme, as implemented, makes very little sense. On the other hand it does suggest (assuming the performance issues can be solved, which may not be the case...) that there's still scope for something like Netflix to adopt the model I assumed was Stadia's model: pay $30 per month (or whatever) and play any game you like from a fairly large catalog across many different devices.
 
Infiniverse48 said:
No. It’s much more simple.

A huge percentage of the population of the US does not have super fast and low-latency internet yet. Streaming video games even for those with the absolute fastest connections still made them highly compressed, and looking worse and lagging more.

People want graphics to keep improving, the new video game consoles are selling extremely well and that is a testament to people desiring better and better graphics and frame rates.

Streaming video games makes the entire experience far worse. The fact that google employees were stupid enough to invest in that is really sad.
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I'm told that there are comparable services from nVidia and MS that people are happy with.
This would suggest that internet performance across the US was not the only, or primary, factor in Google's failure.
And of course MMORPGs continue to do well. (They might not have the same bandwidth demands as something like Stadia, but they have similar latency demands, no?)
 
diamond.g said:
What makes you think the Switch is a 9th gen console?
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NES was third generation. SNES (forth), N64 (fifth), Gamecube (sixth), Wii (seventh), Wii-U (eighth). So the Switch is a ninth-generation console.

When going on generations, it's not about power. It's out succession. That's why Switch being an eighth generation console is a misnomer. If the Switch is eighth, then what is Wii-U? Because you can't have a successor console be a part of the same gen.

Wii-U, PS4 and Xbox One are eighth gen. Switch, PS5 and Xbox X/S are ninth.
 
BuffaloTF said:
Cable tv started in 1948. Comcast opened in 1963 as American Cable Systems in Mississippi. Charter, purchased Time Warner Cable…. TWC began its life as Television Communications Corp in 1962, a time which they were one of 800 cable systems with just shy of 1 million paying customers across all systems.
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Cable didn't start taking off until the 80's, though. Before that, it was mainly OTA for most people.
 
Thebrochure said:
NES was third generation. SNES (forth), N64 (fifth), Gamecube (sixth), Wii (seventh), Wii-U (eighth). So the Switch is a ninth-generation console.

When going on generations, it's not about power. It's out succession. That's why Switch being an eighth generation console is a misnomer. If the Switch is eighth, then what is Wii-U? Because you can't have a successor console be a part of the same gen.

Wii-U, PS4 and Xbox One are eighth gen. Switch, PS5 and Xbox X/S are ninth.
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Wait how is the NES third gen?
 
Thebrochure said:
Because Atari 2600 was second-gen. Pong was a part of the first-gen.
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By that metric (assuming we believe wikipedia, since that seems to be where this is coming from) the Switch is still 8th Gen (since it came out the same year as the X1X).
 
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