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What does Siri have to do with this? You can use Apple TV in any language, as it doesn't require spoken input to operate. Furthermore, Siri doesn't respond aloud to spoken input, so talking to Siri on an Apple TV is awkward at best, and just plain weird at worst.
One of the novelties of AppleTV 4 is siri. But here it is disabled by default and they stopped selling AppleTV 3. So why pay more for a device that's crippled? Like so many other services from Apple that is crippled in countries where English isn't the main language. Google on the other hand works great with other languages. So google services like google Now, maps and probably their new tv services will work great here. Apple isn't able to compete. It's been proven time after time and the cap is widening every month.
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Apple is falling farther behind. And it's really not Tim Cook, it's the environment that Steve Jobs created. I've been using Apple products almost exclusively since 1986, but it was because Apple was better. Arrogantly better, but better. But today's competition is much different. Apple needs to move quickly on some things. Hoping the new Macs will be a step in the right direction.

I think it's already too late. I'm hoping for a new Mac too, but I really hope they'll open source OS X because Apple has proven not to be interested in computers anymore. Name one other computer company who hasn't released improvements to their existing lines for almost 4 years. It's a shame!
 
I guess this demonstrates that the reason Apple didn't reach a deal was because of their negotiating tactics. If Google was able to put this package together, the networks were obviously willing to negotiate.
Google said, "put your content on youtube and we will tell you who is watching what and when. You will get tons of information so you can sell commercials better."

Apple said, "put your content on AppleTV, but we will only give you unidentified general information. You will get basic data that might help you sell commercials but we want 30% of that."

And now we know why things happened the way they did.
 
Siri on AppleTV 4 doesn't work for many foreign languages. So AppleTV is worthless in many countries including mine. Google is on the other hand works very well with foreign languages and is (again) very far ahead of Apple. Mix that with compatibility and reasonable prices... I'm afraid again an opportunity lost for Apple. Android is on every smart tv and getting better and better. Soon you can choose this new feature from google on your tv.
Since the biography of Steve jobs where he mentioned he cracked the way we are going to watch tv all Apple has done is talk but not deliver. Every other company: google, amazone, etc. delivered.

Siri on AppleTV 4 doesn't work in English either, unless you use one of the few apps they opened the API for!
 
There's a lot of unknowns in this story even if it's true. We do not know if the service is tied to existing hardware, new hardware, works only with Android smart TVs or some combination. So you have a lot of confusion as to which TV or device or service will be supported. It's typical Google which makes me believe the story. You can say what you want about Apple but at least they are consistent with one hardware device containing all those type of apps. Navigation, subscriptions and even Siri support is straightforward.
You're right about that. If only it worked in other then English too. It's going to be interesting which service will be the dominant one. Unfortunately I've more confidence in Google then Apple right now. The last years have proved for me that Google is innovating and delivering at a much higher pace then Apple. Apple is fighting on so many fronts now, it can't win. That's my opinion.
 
Same big-ego networks of the 80s thinking they have a foot in the content game of the future ... Personally I'm glad Google is headed in this direction. Apple almost fell for it. #fail
 
I guess with cable service you have to break it before you can fix it ? This process might take a while before it actually delivers something revolutionary.
 
I guess this demonstrates that the reason Apple didn't reach a deal was because of their negotiating tactics. If Google was able to put this package together, the networks were obviously willing to negotiate.
Not sure - Google sells advertising, the networks sell advertising: match made in heaven... for both "content" is just a means to get folks exposed to the ads. Apple is selling devices and services (content), but apart from iAds (does it still exist?) does seems to have very limited activity in the ads business.:cool:
 
I don't think this is what anyone had in mind when they were talking about streaming... at all.

We've taken a dated system and complicated it more than we need to. We now have to pay up to a dozen different providers and access the content through various different apps and web pages instead of just being able to go through one intuitive system. And the reason is because or corporate greed and the inability to agree on anything.

Forget about making things cheaper. We all know the networks need their money and ad revenue (which somehow isn't the case in many other countries; you pay for the channel and not ads), but seriously. This is just a crappy system. And it could have been so good if the customer's experience was actually a concern.
 
I cut the cord over a decade ago. One of the best decisions I ever made. It's nice to see everyone else still warring with the cable hustlers.
 
Could work really well on my AppleTV!

Assuming Apple allows this. I'm sure Google won't want to share any revenues for the subscription, so they won't be able to allow someone to subscribe through the ATV app. But if they just released a viewer only app and forced you to subscribe elsewhere, that could work. Similar to how the Kindle app on iOS doesn't allow you to purchase new content.
 
I guess this demonstrates that the reason Apple didn't reach a deal was because of their negotiating tactics. If Google was able to put this package together, the networks were obviously willing to negotiate.

Seems Netflix wins in all of this... Since they have better tactics to get content than Apple and i may even say Google as well in some cases.


I'll often see stuff on Netflix first, then it comes to iTunes when suggestions are made.
 
am I the only that can't bring themselves to pay for channels that have been free for ages with an antenna? sorry but if i want to watch cbs or fox i'll switch to my hd antenna...

Believe me, I would if I could. Unfortunately, not everyone lives in an area where the broadcast signal is accessible (I am in LA but I live in a topographically challenged area). I think you're missing some parts though. CBS and FOX are just two of the networks signed up. In addition to the broadcasters, cable nets will also be part of the mix.
 
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just read an article that NFL is sweating over low viewership this year.

sucks to be them.

NFL ratings are the exact same total number... the story is that people are just not tuning in for as long as previous years. In other words, they're changing the channel and not coming back.
 
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CBS better not stop their current app pricing, it's the only streaming service I actually enjoy.
 
Still pissed at CBS for locking it to All Access in the US.

It's almost dooming it to fail - "Lets over charge for a service because of one show, then sack it because it'll prove that streaming doesn't work" - ignoring the bundling, the potential value of a show, or any of the things Apple was trying to promote through their negotiations.

Sad thing is, if TV streaming does end up taking off, less people will bundle their TV and internet (hell, the only reason many people have a land line is because "it comes free when you bundle") thus driving up internet-only plans to go more expensive because of demand for streaming. Streaming that they were already using through Netflix and others of the like because I'm still streaming something.

And now I want to take my pointless internet rant to Commercials. To be completely transparent, the ONLY time i care about commercials in my food is if I'm still seeing them AND paying a premium to boot. I'd consider the prices mentioned in the article to be known as "Premium / Ad-Free" costs. If they adopt many of the mobile app model and I can pay more to eliminate commercials I'd be fine with deciding that. But when it comes down to it, if it'll give me a cheaper bill, then by all means get some extra revenue by showing me commercials, sometimes it's the only way I know what the hell is happening in the world anyway.
 
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Apple was talking about this before Jobs death. They possibly could have been the leader for doing this but again they talked too much and delivered too little. Whereas Apple could possibly brokered an iTunes like deal as they did in music, the failed in this area.
I have over the air antenna for local stations, Netflix, HBO and Sling and lack for virtually nothing.
Apple is too plodding and too unfocused to deliver good products/services in a timely fashion.
I am not leaving my iPhone, iPad or Mac ecosystem but I believe that Apple is squandering it's potential for the future.
 
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Google has inked a deal with CBS for its upcoming web-based streaming television service, reports The Wall Street Journal. Called "Unplugged," the paid subscription service, available on YouTube, will see Google offering a bundle of several channels for a set price of $25 to $40 per month.

CBS, a major network, is now on board, and Google is also said to be close to reaching deals with both 21st Century Fox and Disney, putting it one step closer to establishing a streaming service. Google plans to launch "Unplugged" in early 2017 and has already built out the necessary infrastructure.

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Google's YouTube Unplugged offering is aimed at cord cutters and is the type of television service that Apple was hoping to provide to customers before its streaming television plans were put on hold. Apple wanted to offer a "skinny bundle" featuring channels from major networks and popular cable channels, which would have been priced at approximately $35 per month.

Apple has been trying to create some kind of streaming television service for many years, but has continually run into negotiation difficulties with content providers due to its "hard-nosed" negotiating tactics and an inability to assuage fears about the interruption of traditional revenue streams.

Apple's latest streaming plans fell through because media companies demanded too much money for content rights and were reluctant to unbundle channels.

While Google and other companies are developing streaming television services, Apple is aiming to position the Apple TV set-top box and the tvOS App Store as a platform to allow existing content providers to share their content through Apple's interface. Apple is also working on some original television programming, including "Planet of the Apps," "Vital Signs," and "Carpool Karaoke."

Article Link: Google Signs Deal With CBS for Upcoming YouTube Streaming Television Service



Google has inked a deal with CBS for its upcoming web-based streaming television service, reports The Wall Street Journal. Called "Unplugged," the paid subscription service, available on YouTube, will see Google offering a bundle of several channels for a set price of $25 to $40 per month.

CBS, a major network, is now on board, and Google is also said to be close to reaching deals with both 21st Century Fox and Disney, putting it one step closer to establishing a streaming service. Google plans to launch "Unplugged" in early 2017 and has already built out the necessary infrastructure.

youtube-logo-800x295.jpg

Google's YouTube Unplugged offering is aimed at cord cutters and is the type of television service that Apple was hoping to provide to customers before its streaming television plans were put on hold. Apple wanted to offer a "skinny bundle" featuring channels from major networks and popular cable channels, which would have been priced at approximately $35 per month.

Apple has been trying to create some kind of streaming television service for many years, but has continually run into negotiation difficulties with content providers due to its "hard-nosed" negotiating tactics and an inability to assuage fears about the interruption of traditional revenue streams.

Apple's latest streaming plans fell through because media companies demanded too much money for content rights and were reluctant to unbundle channels.

While Google and other companies are developing streaming television services, Apple is aiming to position the Apple TV set-top box and the tvOS App Store as a platform to allow existing content providers to share their content through Apple's interface. Apple is also working on some original television programming, including "Planet of the Apps," "Vital Signs," and "Carpool Karaoke."

Article Link: Google Signs Deal With CBS for Upcoming YouTube Streaming Television Service
Still can't beat PlayStation Vue!
 
I wonder if Star Trek: Discovery will be included in this. Not that I'd pay $25-40 a month for TV.

Still pissed at CBS for locking it to All Access in the US.
its been said the source of Piracy lies in a service problem, not a pricing one... you'd think content providers would understand this now. but nowdays everyone feels they have to control every aspect of the "experience"....
 
What I'm dumbfounded by is why Apple doesn't turn iTunes into a streaming service. They already have all the content imaginable. They just need to renegotiate the contracts.
 
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