Google Stadia Cloud Gaming Platform Now Available on iPhone and iPad Through Safari

[archer75]

Everyone’s use case is different. you may only prefer to play at home, but there are other who prefer to play anywhere.

“Why would I want to play on a phone“ because I can. The touch screen controls are amazing and are not intrusive. The iPhone 12 Mini plays Cyberpunk better then consoles.

“Stadia has already had 2 outages just this week alone” Ok. So has PSN/Xbox Live. Everyone/everything has outages. What it comes down to is customer service and how fast it comes back. Plenty of times COD has gone down.

“Consoles are cheap” So everyone has $500 to spend + a “special $200 SSD“ because games can only be used on this ”Special SSD“, plus games have now reached 100GB standard. Even last gen still costs $300.

“Stadia doesn't support ray tracing” - Ray Tracing is not required nor needed. Only a handful of games actually support it. PS5/Series X does not support Ray Tracing past 30 FPS.

“non standard resolutions” - Stadia supports 720p, 1080p, 1440p and 4K.


As far as Stadia is concerned, it is not disappearing anytime soon. With 400 titles coming to the platform between 2021 and 2023. I have not seen a single Cloud platform put anywhere near this effort.

In the last 10 days this is what Stadia accomplished.

- YouTube Streaming
- Crowd Play
- Ubisoft Plus
- iOS Support
- European Countries Added
- Best Place to Play Cyberpunk for Most People

"The iPhone 12 Mini plays Cyberpunk better then previous gen consoles" Fixed. But ugh, so small.
Sure, personal use case.

Yes but if xbox live has an outage I can still play cyberpunk.

Yes, $500 is cheap over the life of a console. It ends up being cheaper than a stadia sub if you want 4k gaming.
You don't need a $200 SSD to play on next gen unless you have a bunch of games installed that you play all at once. I don't have one or need one. And even then it only applies to series s/x games. Though they can be offloaded to an external if you aren't currently playing or particular one. Games from xbox One don't require this and can be installed and run from any external hard drive.

Ray tracing is not required but it is nice to have. At least it's an option on next gen consoles, PC and geforce now. I'd expect stadia to offer it at some point.

Also you lose mod support for your PC games. For where you use mods/addons

Listing part of the resolution is useless. It doesn't support non standard and I don't own a single "standard" monitor. It doesn't support 3440x1440 which is what I have. My old monitor is 1920x1200(supported by geforce now), also non standard. So you can't take full advantage of the display. As ultra widescreens are becoming more popular it's certainly a consideration. Especially as i'm interested in a high end gaming PC replacement, not a console replacement.

And for my personal use case it doesn't have most of the games i'm interested in which still requires me to have a gaming pc anyways. At least with shadow you can bring all your own games. Though it does have it's own cons.
Really for it to be viable you need to be able to go all in with it. It needs to have everything you care about otherwise you'd have to have a gaming PC or console(especially for exclusives). And if you have those there's no point in stadia. Especially with consoles offering remote play if that interests you.

 

[hot-gril]

- Best Place to Play Cyberpunk for Most People

If you buy the game on PC, do you get to play it on Stadia too? I'm confused about the offering. Stadia looks great, and I've tried it, but I'm not going to buy games at full price that can only be played on one particular subscription service, knowing they'll disappear if I stop paying. It's a weird pricing model. I'd think there'd be no one-time purchases and everything would be prorated.

 

[archer75]

If you buy the game on PC, do you get to play it on Stadia too? I'm confused about the offering. Stadia looks great, and I've tried it, but I'm not going to buy games at full price that can only be played on one particular subscription service, knowing they'll disappear if I stop paying. It's a weird pricing model. I'd think there'd be no one-time purchases and everything would be prorated.

No.

If you buy on PC(steam, GOG or epic) you can also play the game on geforce now. Which has two tiers, one free and one $5
FYI, if you buy the game from GOG there is no DRM.

If you buy the game on stadia you do always have the option of their free tier. So the game shouldn't disappear if you stop paying. Unless something changes.

 

[hot-gril]

No.

If you buy on PC(steam, GOG or epic) you can also play the game on geforce now. Which has two tiers, one free and one $5
FYI, if you buy the game from GOG there is no DRM.

If you buy the game on stadia you do always have the option of their free tier. So the game shouldn't disappear if you stop paying. Unless something changes.

Ah, ok. The Stadia pricing is confusing. There's the free (except you pay for games like you said) one and Stadia Pro, which costs $/mo and offers 4K and whatever else. On top of it, they sell controllers, but they aren't required.

So the risk is, you buy the games on Stadia then Stadia disappears one day, or starts costing money, or whatever else.

 

[Piggie]

I feel we need to be honest here, and Apple of course knows this also, but as yet, has no way of offering a competing service yet.
For anything other than enthusiast/very fact reaction games, streaming games, and having all the high end expensive computing power in the cloud, and you being able to enjoy the game on a very light/thin/low power device is of course the future without question.

Be it this years, next year, 5 years or 10 years, this WILL become the norm for gaming for most people.
It just makes too much sense for it not to become this way over time.

Why spend hundreds/thousands on high end machines with the power to run the very best of games, when the streaming providers can handle all that side of things?

If anything this is good for Apple, is they could only understand it.
Apple sucks at games due to Steve Jobs personal issues and other reasons.

If games are streamed then overnight Apple can have as good a gaming machine as any PC owner does.

Apple's BIGGEST problem is that they are running an old business model by relying on hardware sales.
Windows will move to the cloud in the future, so you won't need to run Windows and windows apps locally either.

It's going to come, and by the look of things Apple are going to be last to the party.
Wonder how long before they realize what's happening and are forced into adopting the future?

 

[4look4rd]

Really cool to see this being implemented... as a proof of concept for something like Microsoft Game Pass cloud streaming.

Of course now that I think about it Nvidia did this back in November with GeForce NOW so... just don’t invest in Stadia... it’s literally the worst of all worlds when it comes to game streaming.

I got a free trial of geforce now with my 3080, and it works really well on the ipad. Apple will get hit hard of gaming is done outside of the app store. Really these streaming services bring a whole new dimension for ipad gaming, it's not even close.

 

[archer75]

I got a free trial of geforce now with my 3080, and it works really well on the ipad. Apple will get hit hard of gaming is done outside of the app store. Really these streaming services bring a whole new dimension for ipad gaming, it's not even close.

How will apple get hit hard? It doesn't matter to them if it's in the app store or outside of it. Game sales would still be done via microsoft or sony, etc. and not the app so apple wouldn't get a cut anyways. Just like you can subscribe to spotify or netflix through their own sites and apple gets no cut of that as a result. Same with kindle.
And it was apples own suggestion they go with a web app and they are helping them make it.

 

[efp722]

Ah, ok. The Stadia pricing is confusing. There's the free (except you pay for games like you said) one and Stadia Pro, which costs $/mo and offers 4K and whatever else. On top of it, they sell controllers, but they aren't required.

So the risk is, you buy the games on Stadia then Stadia disappears one day, or starts costing money, or whatever else.

For me, the confusion came from when they launched. Back then I believe it had a $10 monthly charge in addition to buying your games out right.

Now, it's no different then Sony and Microsoft and their offerings with PS+ and Games With Gold (or whatever it's called these days). You can load up the store in browser, sign up for an account with no charge, and buy a game and play right away. If you want their offering of free games and subscriber perks then you can opt into the Pro tier- just like you would on PlayStation or Xbox.

 

[hot-gril]

For me, the confusion came from when they launched. Back then I believe it had a $10 monthly charge in addition to buying your games out right.

I see, that explains why I vaguely remember it being that and was confused with the current one.