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Look at Google Glass - was that a successful product? No. If Apple had a product that flopped like that, there would be talk in this forum of firing Tim Cook.
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What destroyed Apple is the lack of OSX on iPads. #doomed
I heard Cupertino is secretly working on touch-based version of OS X code name iOS.
 
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Archaic oil companies enabling shipping of product from China to your doorstep

That oil companies are powering the world is a choice, not a necessity. Unfortunately, lobbying goes al long way. If we really wanted to address global warming, we could. But we won't until it's too late: the human race can create something wonderful as an iPhone, but at the same time destroys the world he's living in.
 
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Obviously OS X isn't designed for a touch-based interface like iOS but the current UI on the iPad Pro is absolutely pathetic. It's essentially a blown-up iPhone interface and that does not translate well for an almost 13" display. The other iPads are also just as bad when it comes it comes to UI optimization for their larger displays. The previous iOS UI under Forstall took much better advantage of the larger screen canvases that the iPads possess. It's like Apple doesn't even freaking try anymore.

It's also really sad that Apple has all these great hardware specs and consistent advances yet iOS almost never takes advantage of them.
 
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The thing that continues to elude me is, why this should be of concern to Apple? Why is everyone so obsessed with stock price or shareholder value? Apple keeps making insane profits on a significantly lower market share than Google in the market they actually compete (Android/iOS). Apparently, Google payed Apple 1bn, just to stay the default search engine on iOS. They made 9bn from iOS mobile search revenue 2014. If that stayed the same in 2015, that's about 12% of their revenue. What will happen to that money, if iOS actually fails? I wonder if Wall Street would be so happy with Google, if they realized a large chunk of profits depends on a company they see as failing.
As long as market cap stays high enough to prevent hostile takeover, falling stock price should be irrelevant. Apple's not going to lose money on falling stock prices. Am I missing something here?
 
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The fact that Wall Street loves Google is no news. Stock is all about future and Profit is all about current. While future is important, it is subjective. Same with expectation. Media loves drama and people fall it. If the impending market crash happened this year, the one who survive will not be the one who has high price to earning, and you know which one is that.
 
Prolly cause Apple Music isn't working right. I tweeted Timmy this morning. He better get on that. This is unacceptable.
I still have trouble believing that Apple Music is made by the same company who revolutionized the way we listened to music with the iPod and the iTunes Store. Buying Beats was a huge mistake. What Apple needed to was to greatly improve the quality and efficiency of iTunes and the iOS Music App, not convolute them with a bunch of unneeded features that should be in separate apps anyway (like Podcasts did). I just wish Apple would design and develop a stock music app that's on par with the iOS 6 version which was peak perfection there. One of the reasons why I always chose iPhone was so that I could also use it as my iPod. I wanna be able to do that again in the future...
 
The thing that continues to elude me is, why this should be of concern to Apple? Why is everyone so obsessed with stock price or shareholder value? Apple keeps making insane profits on a significantly lower market share than Google in the market they actually compete (Android/iOS). Apparently, Google payed Apple 1bn, just to stay the default search engine on iOS. They made 9bn from iOS mobile search revenue 2014. If that stayed the same in 2015, that's about 12% of their revenue. What will happen to that money, if iOS actually fails? I wonder if Wall Street would be so happy with Google, if they realized a large chunk of profits depends on a company they see as failing.
As long as market cap stays high enough to prevent hostile takeover, falling stock price should be irrelevant. Apple's not going to lose money on falling stock prices. Am I missing something here?

You are not missing anything. But most people who comment here are.
 
Then how will they get you to 'upgrade' and keep their market share (and company value) high enough to surpass Google next year, if they do not get you to buy a product at least twice?

Apple's product policy is not releasing the best possible device, but just good enough to be what they feel is class leading, to get you to buy the product again with 'updates' they could have implemented on launch day the next year.

Quoting for truth.
 
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That oil companies are powering the world is a choice, not a necessity. Unfortunately, lobbying goes al long way. If we really wanted to address global warming, we could. But we won't until it's too late: the human race can create something wonderful as an iPhone, but at the same time destroys the world he's living in.
Were these wonderful iPhones created in a special place where they don't contribute to the same global warming? To be fair, it's easy to think in those terms since the factories are in China so we typically don't see the contributions.

OT: Google surpassing Apple is about as relevant Apple having the "title" in the first place. It only matters in certain circles.
 
The thing that continues to elude me is, why this should be of concern to Apple? Why is everyone so obsessed with stock price or shareholder value? Apple keeps making insane profits on a significantly lower market share than Google in the market they actually compete (Android/iOS). Apparently, Google payed Apple 1bn, just to stay the default search engine on iOS. They made 9bn from iOS mobile search revenue 2014. If that stayed the same in 2015, that's about 12% of their revenue. What will happen to that money, if iOS actually fails? I wonder if Wall Street would be so happy with Google, if they realized a large chunk of profits depends on a company they see as failing.
As long as market cap stays high enough to prevent hostile takeover, falling stock price should be irrelevant. Apple's not going to lose money on falling stock prices. Am I missing something here?

First off the shareholders will riot if this weak stock price continues.
Stockholders vote for the board of directors.
The board of directors can fire Tim Cook.

Second most of the elite level executives are paid mostly from stock rewards. If the stock is weak it can hurt their compensation big time. We are talking about tens of millions of dollars. Many other employees have stock options. If your stock is weak eventually you will lose employee talent.

Third many of the biggest Apple fans are Apple shareholders. No doubt if they lose tens if not hundreds of thousands of dollars in stock loses that will effect their buying habbits. Personally I have held off of buying several Apple products because the stock price has been so weak the last 6 months.
 
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Oh noes.. I'm going to dump my Macbook Pro, iPad, iPhone and the rest because Apple isn't #1...
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OK, well, Google are valued higher than Apple... back to work - more important things to get on with in life!

Seriously... Google, due to more being more public about what they are working on, appear as an exciting company, not afraid of failure. I'm sure Apple would seem so too, if they weren't so secretive.
 
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Worse, Google is all talk, nothing concrete nor substantial. Apple continues to deliver absolute good products.

Sorry - but you're just wrong. Love or hate Google - they are constantly investing in R&D beyond the consumer market. They have tons of research projects and studies. Some of their projects fail but they keep trying. That's to be commended actually.
 
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