In the case of Google they were hacked by China in what was most likely a government backed hacking effort. It is not really an Apple vs Windows thing. China just wants to get at Google regardless of the OS. China and Google have been at odds over censorship for many months now. My concern is that China may now devote hacking resources towards exposing security flaws in OSX. It is silly to think that OSX or any other OS is invulnerable to hacking and viruses. Do you think hundreds of Chinese government hackers won't be able to cause trouble.
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Google Switches Away from Windows (Mostly to Mac) Due to Security Concerns
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In the case of Google they were hacked by China in what was most likely a government backed hacking effort. It is not really an Apple vs Windows thing. China just wants to get at Google regardless of the OS. China and Google have been at odds over censorship for many months now. My concern is that China may now devote hacking resources towards exposing security flaws in OSX. It is silly to think that OSX or any other OS is invulnerable to hacking and viruses. Do you think hundreds of Chinese government hackers won't be able to cause trouble.
Yeah, but ....
Not sure how much it matters in their situation? Many of their apps are being developed for both platforms anyway (Google Earth, Chrome, Picasa, etc.). That means they may well be writing them in a language that's the same on either platform, vs. doing all the development in a version of Microsoft Visual Studio or the like.
I don't think Google is the type of company you want to be working for, if you're one of those "Windows only guys" anyway.... They need really flexible people who wouldn't view a change of OS platform as a big "learning curve".
Not sure how much it matters in their situation? Many of their apps are being developed for both platforms anyway (Google Earth, Chrome, Picasa, etc.). That means they may well be writing them in a language that's the same on either platform, vs. doing all the development in a version of Microsoft Visual Studio or the like.
I don't think Google is the type of company you want to be working for, if you're one of those "Windows only guys" anyway.... They need really flexible people who wouldn't view a change of OS platform as a big "learning curve".
Found something.
Is this it?
http://macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/3828/
And more fun:
http://www.nasa.gov/audience/foreducators/9-12/features/N_Apple_Learning_Interchange_Resources.html
http://pcworld.co.nz/pcworld/pcw.nsf/feature/7A6BCA446DC440D5CC2575E4001CDB07
http://ranier.hq.nasa.gov/nhmug_page/nhmug.shtm
You can set this up easily in Keychain access. It will put a lock icon in the menubar, just click the lock and it locks the screen. Does it have to be a keyboard command to be "official"?
Last time I tried Picasa in Linux it was actually running on top of Wine. Really sucks because Picasa is great on Windows but in Linux (wine) the experience is just not the same.
Macs all the way!
ahhhhh, the revenge of the macintosh! I see it happening now, and it is GLORIOUS!
anyways... More and more software is being written for the mac platform all the time. I keep seeing new games and software coming to the mac, and with Microsofts EPIC FAIL on the slate computers (which they stole the name from apple) and there lack of creativity into making new and better products. The only market they have a chance at still is XBOX but its slipping away with the PS3. So now there losing contractors of windows, WHAT A SUPRISE STEVE BALMER CONSIDERING THAT YOU HAVE DONE ALMOST NO IMPROVEMENT OVER THE LAST 3 VERSIONS OF WINDOWS! (no windows 7 ISNT better, its ANNOYING as HELL, I cant use it for 5 minutes ON MY MAC without SCREAMING MY ****ING HEAD OFF)
ahhhhh, the revenge of the macintosh! I see it happening now, and it is GLORIOUS!
anyways... More and more software is being written for the mac platform all the time. I keep seeing new games and software coming to the mac, and with Microsofts EPIC FAIL on the slate computers (which they stole the name from apple) and there lack of creativity into making new and better products. The only market they have a chance at still is XBOX but its slipping away with the PS3. So now there losing contractors of windows, WHAT A SUPRISE STEVE BALMER CONSIDERING THAT YOU HAVE DONE ALMOST NO IMPROVEMENT OVER THE LAST 3 VERSIONS OF WINDOWS! (no windows 7 ISNT better, its ANNOYING as HELL, I cant use it for 5 minutes ON MY MAC without SCREAMING MY ****ING HEAD OFF)
No, the point was to show you that making blanket statements about an organization "switching" to Macs (when in reality a few users here and there might be using them) is misleading. You could at least be more specific.
Sorry, but if you make the posit you should be able to provide the proof. Since you've failed to do so and logical counterexamples have been given, there's no point trying to keep disproving your unverifiable claims.
It's old news and I tried searching for the information so I could post a link but I failed at finding anything. Silly me, I thought some of the enthusiasts on this forum would've heard of this by now.
If NASA's entire computing infrastructure switched from Windows to OS X you would have no trouble finding it.
...has the following line at the bottom of the page:
Might be a little outdated :-\
The larger issue is that while here and there a governmental organization might have a Mac user base, it's the exception...not the rule. Thus it's not really comparable to the Google situation as they're seemingly purging Windows from their network entirely.
http://www.macdailynews.com/index.php/weblog/comments/24469/
It begs the question: Why doesn't Apple do dumb fuzzing before they ship stuff? Maybe they just don't care (about security).
It begs the question: Why doesn't Apple do dumb fuzzing before they ship stuff? Maybe they just don't care (about security).
The pleasure is all mineExcellent find!! Thanks much.
I know, I added the other links for the fun of it
If by "low-hanging fruit" you mean inherently less secure design. Because if market dominance was the primary reason Windows is so frequently hacked then we would expect Linux servers, which dominate the web, to be hacked more often and more severely than IIS, but that isn't the case:
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2004/10/22/security_report_windows_vs_linux/#myth1
Good point. The use of Linux/UNIX and Apache in the wild far exceeds IIS. Yet most of the Web issues, etc. have been on the client side [i.e. Windows].
I argue this point with people all the time. I don't disagree that because Windows IS used more, that the attacks are bigger, or appear to be more widespread. It's just a fact. But it's not the only reason...
Or see the light, and realize it's a better solution. Either way it's a win IMO. Either Linux or Mac....
Good news. Time for Linux get some extra love
That's why I wonder why Google isn't using a decent Linux distribution like Ubuntu Linux 10.04 (Lucid Lynx) for their work machines.
I want to know why google doesn't switch to android instead.
For the same reason that Apple is not switching to iPhone OS.
You do realize Google are merely changing work platforms to OSX or Linux as per employee's choice. This doesn't mean Google will develop more OSX applications.
I've developed on both OSX and Linux. Personally, I'd rather use OSX over Linux any day of the week -
1. OSX easier to maintain ( for both myself and Admin - depending on skill level / familarity )
2. Software generally better - i.e. Mail
3. Can broadly use the same software for OSX as with Linux even if it means having to use Ports / or use alternatives to do the same job
4. OSX offers better UI ( IMO ) than Linux
I wish more companies would offer the choice of OSX or Linux.
I think this is almost like Google learning how to be Apple, more than anything else...
So, yeah. Seems like they are...
I interviewed with Google over 4 years ago, and back then Google was not using any Windows machines. They had their own distro of Linux running on desktops and laptops. Rumor had it that Google would be releasing that distro to the public as the Google OS, but this has not yet materealized. Perhaps Chrome OS was developed from that effort. The only people that were using Windows at Google were Google Aps developers that had to make sure their programs were compatible with Windows as well as developers of Windows-based applications. Incidentally, Google did not use any Cisco equipment either. All their routers are Juniper. Google hates both Microsoft and Cisco. This information is from the horse's mouth even though it's 4+ years old. I can only see non- technical Googlers using Macs - those who need mostly browsing, email, and productivity suite. Technical Googlers, such as network engineers, programmers, DB admins, server admins, etc., most likely use Linux like they have been since the inception of Google. Additionally, with the current rift between Google and Apple, it's hard to believe Google is investing in the Apple platform.
Except Google has zero institutional knowledge when it comes to hardware manufacturing. Zilch, zip, nada.