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As industrial design advances in the tablet market expectations shift. The truth is that people buy as much or more based on superficial things like form factor. Why would I want to buy a google tablet that looks like it came from 2008?

You can try to diminish the impact of crappy design. You'll fail.

You may convince some that the Nexus 7 is "doomed" but again - I believe you're wrong (and incredibly biased - but that's another matter)

Again - those that enjoy their Nexus 7s (and despite rumor - I am positive there are millions among those ~7 million sold) have an excellent reason to upgrade - at least as any good reason someone had from upgrading from the iPad 2 to 3. Or iPhone 4 to 4s.

I am not discounting aesthetics. But people also purchase based on specs and oh yeah - price.
 
You guys are all missing the part where the content doesn't at any point stream directly from your tablet or phone to this dongle. It's ALL streaming from the web.

In which case you're locked into Web content. Massive limitation. If all this thing does is point to Web content then it's even lamer and more useless than I initially thought.
 
With Chromecast, you would have to first download the movie on your phone, tablet, or PC.

Not at all. According to the google cast dev suite, the chromecast receiver runs a scaled-down Chrome browser. So basically, the chromecast sender just pushes an URL to the chromecast receiver and it starts streaming the content from the WEB server pointed out by the URL. No download or even content processing is required on the chromcast sender.
 
News flash: even the 1 tab in chrome you can "mirror" is streamed from the cloud to the device. Your computer talks to google, who then in turn talk to the device. No direct streaming whatsoever.

The chrome tab is being rendered server-side and streamed to the device. Early reports say the video or whatever you're mirroring gets out of sync quickly, too.

This thing is a piece.
 
You may convince some that the Nexus 7 is "doomed" but again - I believe you're wrong (and incredibly biased - but that's another matter)

Again - those that enjoy their Nexus 7s (and despite rumor - I am positive there are millions among those ~7 million sold) have an excellent reason to upgrade - at least as any good reason someone had from upgrading from the iPad 2 to 3. Or iPhone 4 to 4s.

I am not discounting aesthetics. But people also purchase based on specs and oh yeah - price.

Am I "incredibly biased?" I submit that you have nowhere near the evidence required to level a ridiculous accusation like that.

I'm a designer. I'm concerned with good design. It's my business, and as such I see how good designs succeed and bad designs fail. The Nexus may do okay based on the price point, but it isn't going to win any beauty contests and that fact will absolutely put a crimp in sales. How significant a crimp is anyone's guess. Personally, it is my OPINION that this thing has fail written on it because it's ugly and doesn't really provide anything you can't get on a better tab, especially when the new Kindle Fires come out later this year.
 
No - I have 2 Apple TVs and wifi on my TV. Care to make any other silly assumptions?

Assume that I'm mad. I'm not. I think your arguments are quite funny actually. They lack merit.

And I haven't missed a thing.

You agreed that content needed to be local (downloaded and then streamed to the tv) which made it "useless."

I pointed out that Netflix and Google Play movies stream to the tv without having to download them.

Pointless to discuss this rationally with you if you're going to ignore my posts, make incredible assumptions and so on. Have a lovely evening.

Hey guy, how about read what I wrote. I never said things have to be downloaded. On the contrary I'm saying that its impossible to do so. This thing only streams content from google or Netflix. How about read into what devs are saying about it? (Cliff notes: they're not saying good things)

If you have 2 apple TVs why are you shilling for chromecast so hard? Obviously it's because you don't understand what it does.

And that in yours and my cases, it is an utterly useless device.
 
Am I "incredibly biased?" I submit that you have nowhere near the evidence required to level a ridiculous accusation like that.

I'm a designer. I'm concerned with good design. It's my business, and as such I see how good designs succeed and bad designs fail. The Nexus may do okay based on the price point, but it isn't going to win any beauty contests and that fact will absolutely put a crimp in sales. How significant a crimp is anyone's guess. Personally, it is my OPINION that this thing has fail written on it because it's ugly and doesn't really provide anything you can't get on a better tab, especially when the new Kindle Fires come out later this year.

Time will tell. You made assumptions about me - I just did it in return. At the end of the day - you have your opinion, I have mine. Neither one is any more valid than the other. Especially when it comes to "predicting." Let's revisit the topic in 6 months and see how much it's failed (or succeeded)
 
Time will tell. You made assumptions about me - I just did it in return. At the end of the day - you have your opinion, I have mine. Neither one is any more valid than the other. Especially when it comes to "predicting." Let's revisit the topic in 6 months and see how much it's failed (or succeeded)

I didn't make even a single assumption about you. Go back and look.

You, on the other hand, made a huge assumption about me.

Stop.
 
Time will tell. You made assumptions about me - I just did it in return. At the end of the day - you have your opinion, I have mine. Neither one is any more valid than the other. Especially when it comes to "predicting." Let's revisit the topic in 6 months and see how much it's failed (or succeeded)

Constantly on the defensive.
 
Hey guy, how about read what I wrote. I never said things have to be downloaded. On the contrary I'm saying that its impossible to do so. This thing only streams content from google or Netflix. How about read into what devs are saying about it? (Cliff notes: they're not saying good things)

If you have 2 apple TVs why are you shilling for chromecast so hard? Obviously it's because you don't understand what it does.

And that in yours and my cases, it is an utterly useless device.

I deleted my post because I was responding to the wrong person with some of my commentary.

I stated it's not something I need or want to use. But that doesn't make it a useless device.

And just because I see value in a $35 streaming device doesn't make me a shill. But if calling me names makes you feel better - go right ahead.

I know exactly what the device does.
 
:confused:I don't see how they're "Taking Aim at Apple" with the Nexus 7 :confused:

The Nexus 7 came out before the iPad Mini and they kinda own the 7 inch market.

I know you all have a Steve Jobs poster above your bed and get really nervous whenever a company other than Apple does something good, but JEEZE ! The Nexus 7 rocks ! And the price can't be beat !

Chill...the heck...out
 
I deleted my post because I was responding to the wrong person with some of my commentary.

I stated it's not something I need or want to use. But that doesn't make it a useless device.

And just because I see value in a $35 streaming device doesn't make me a shill. But if calling me names makes you feel better - go right ahead.

I know exactly what the device does.

Wow, dude. Seriously? I said you were shilling. It's a verb. Not a name call. So defensive.
 
:confused:I don't see how they're "Taking Aim at Apple" with the Nexus 7 :confused:

The Nexus 7 came out before the iPad Mini and they kinda own the 7 inch market.

I know you all have a Steve Jobs poster above your bed and get really nervous whenever a company other than Apple does something good, but JEEZE ! The Nexus 7 rocks ! And the price can't be beat !

Chill...the heck...out

You might have had a valid point... until you destroyed your own credibility with that Jobs crack. Oh well.
 
People actually buy this crappy tablets? Why, because of the price? Don't be cheap, guys!

Seriously, I haven't seen an Android tablet on my college and, well, anywhere but the shelves.

I think you are confusing 'cheap' with 'cost price', I.E. Google sell the Nexus 7 for the same price as it costs them to make it, and I can tell you right now I would make an educated guess that the iPad Mini costs the exact same or less to make, so in effect the Nexus 7 costs the same or even more then the iPad Mini.
And I'm happy everyone at your college is able to afford iPad's, no doubt education discounts helped with that.
 
People actually buy this crappy tablets? Why, because of the price? Don't be cheap, guys!

Seriously, I haven't seen an Android tablet on my college and, well, anywhere but the shelves.

And yet you're willing to try and sound like some kind of expert on the subject when you haven't "seen an Android tablet"?

Why do I care what kids in A third world nation are using.
 
I didn't make even a single assumption about you. Go back and look.

You, on the other hand, made a huge assumption about me.

Stop.

I did go back and look. You're right - you didn't. Someone else did. In the flurry of posts I thought you had. I can admit when I'm wrong.

Sorry about that.

"stopped" :)
 
The chromecast seems interesting until you read that it also comes with a usb cable and power adapter. So, you plug this into the HDMI port and then out of that you have a cable and a power adapter.

Won't look as sleek as the promo shots with a cord dangling out of it.

Edit: Looks like you can either plug it into the power adapter or a USB port on your TV if you have one.

I read where most newer tv's will provide power through the hdmi.
 
I think you are confusing 'cheap' with 'cost price', I.E. Google sell the Nexus 7 for the same price as it costs them to make it, and I can tell you right now I would make an educated guess that the iPad Mini costs the exact same or less to make, so in effect the Nexus 7 costs the same or even more then the iPad Mini.
And I'm happy everyone at your college is able to afford iPad's, no doubt education discounts helped with that.

I find it VERY hard to believe that the iPad Mini costs the same to manufacture. Where exactly are you getting that impression?
 
I'm a designer. I'm concerned with good design. It's my business, and as such I see how good designs succeed and bad designs fail. The Nexus may do okay based on the price point, but it isn't going to win any beauty contests and that fact will absolutely put a crimp in sales.

I doubt it. You might have a carefully trained designer's eye or whatever, but superficially it doesn't look vastly different than the iPad Mini. I doubt anyone interested in this is gonna look at it, freak out over a quarter inch of unnecessary bezel along the top and bottom, then run from the store screaming.

The major thing most people are gonna notice is the screen. Provided it's an IPS, it'll show itself off pretty well to the buying public.
 
I read where most newer tv's will provide power through the hdmi.

Not for a while if ever. HDMI is a spec, and if you start pumping more power than what is there (for hot plug and device detection purposes) anything that wasn't built to handle it could conceivably get fried.
 
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