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How many people who's pants got tight over Chromecast and bought one will realize they could do the same thing and more with the iOS devices they already own? :confused:
 
Wow--very ugly. I guess google didn't get the "mini design is the future memo". I keep my mobile devices 2 years--its not really worth $50 a year to settle for something like this.

Also--I think the non retina mini screen is nicer than the current nx7 hd screen.
 
? Neither have I. Most of the people in American colleges use ipads like it or not. Same thing when I look around the subway or on the street really. And the ipad is still a superior product 3 years later. 16:9 looks terrible how do people use this thing in portrait mode? Until Google steps up its game with tablet apps and puts a 4:3 on a tablet, iPad will be the way for me to go.

What are you going to do when iPad goes 16:9 or 16:10? The iPod, iPhone, Mac, and upcoming iTV all are 16:9/10. 4:3 is not consistent with this ecosystem that Apple is creating.
 
Because they usually only outperform them at the release of a new processor line. Android ARM manufacturers and Apple tend to leapfrog each other every other release. And there's never such a huge gulf in performance that it takes long for the other guys to catch up. It's all pretty marginal.

That's cuz Apple doesn't create 40 phones a qtr just to gain marketshare. When Apple releases their flagship for the year it always outperforms every other flagship currently on the market. All this is irrelevant, the point is specs don't matter because Apple, the "outdated" phone that "just gets minor updates" wipes the floor with other phones with each refresh. Single cores outperforming dual cores, dual cores outperforming quad cores, and like I said when the 5S comes out it WILL (not might) outperform the S4.


Do you think the iPad is perfect right now? Do you think it'll be just as perfect three years from now? Spec bumps automatically lead to better apps as more developers take advantage of the power they're given. If you want better apps, you want better specs.

No I don't think the iPad is perfect. I also don't think that Android tablets have a leg up on the iPad solely because of their specs. That's just a pissing contest. Real world data (the tangible stuff) shows that the iPad is just fine with its outdated specs.

I'll agree that there is some pointless specage in the Android world, but it is kinda fun to see what people do with it.

Sure it's fun. It's also laughable seeing people boast about octacore processors in a mobile phone. Pissing contest.

I wouldn't say they're lagging behind, but Apple always has tended to play a little conservative with their hardware. They rarely ever take huge jumps across the board. Like the iPad 4 has a great processor in it, no doubt, but I was kinda disappointed they didn't throw more ram into the thing. Android phones and tablets have been using 2GB for awhile now. Even if Dalvik does allegedly tend to eat more ram, it does give that platform more breathing room overall. A extra GB of ram would only be a small hit to the battery, and wouldn't cost more than $10 per unit for Apple to add. The benefits would outweigh the costs here.

Again, the iPad4 is just fine. Any "benefit" you see by adding a gig of extra RAM is going to be negligible because the iPad4 is a beast. It's not going to suddenly become "Double-Beast!!!!" because they added an unnecessary gig of RAM just to keep up with the Joneses'

Hopefully the iPad 5 does have more ram in it. It'll make it that much better of a machine.

And while I'm hoping, they should add a digitizer to it, too. It'd start approaching my idea of the perfect tablet if they did that.

Better for you because you want it. It's already going to be tangibly better than every single android tablet out there.
 
:confused:I don't see how they're "Taking Aim at Apple" with the Nexus 7 :confused:

The Nexus 7 came out before the iPad Mini and they kinda own the 7 inch market.

I know you all have a Steve Jobs poster above your bed and get really nervous whenever a company other than Apple does something good, but JEEZE ! The Nexus 7 rocks ! And the price can't be beat !

Chill...the heck...out

But they copied Apple, even thought they released the Nexus 7 first. :D:D
 
I don't understand how Apple enthusiasts would crap all over the chromecast. It works for iOS/OSX as well! Apple users benefit too! My goodness..

The real losers are boxes like the Roku, and the Chinese Android USB stick market
 
Not at all. Read from the beginning and you'll se how much incorrect information and assumptions is spread.

Stating people are not smart enough to find out what is correct really reflects on YOUR own issues.

You can choose to mirror only the "content" (TV out) instead of the screen so to speak, in which case you don't blow up anything (it's shown as is).

Also Chrome (WEB) Mirroring is limited to 720p. Just so you know.

I know netflix is 1080p, but If that is right it's still better than my airplay on the atv 3. All of my itunes movies (All ripped myself) are 720p and far better than airplay I get. For 11.00 after netflix discounts it's really not in competition, it's in it's own category. Not to mention very easy to take on trips.
 
I have both a Mini & a Nexus 7. While I prefer the Mini I also absolutely love the Nexus 7 and would buy it again in a heartbeat.

Yep same here, both terrific devices. I'll be buying one as it's the only genuine small android based tablet worth the money. Biggest problem with the Nexus 7 1 is 'lag', in truth it's built down to a price (obviously) so it's a bit weedy. It's replacement looks much better.

Microsoft take note, if you'd really wanted to establish a foothold in the tablet market you should have followed Google's example.
 
Oh the evil! Actually wanting to use ... gasp... advertising to offset hosting costs of an otherwise free service. The outrage!!! :rolleyes:

Just as Apple fans' presumptuousness irks people and turns them off from all things Apple, Google's ludicrous facade of being anything but a corporation as interested in making money as the next corporation irks people, leading them to mock the "Do no evil" motto.
 
How many people who's pants got tight over Chromecast and bought one will realize they could do the same thing and more with the iOS devices they already own? :confused:

So I can carry my apple tv in my pocket on vacation? More? I can carry mine and someone else's?

Why do you think everyone is getting it to compete with atv? Don't feel so threatened, i don'f consider it either/or.

I have an atv3 but I could do the same thing and more with roku3. See how that works? Not everyone needs/wants the same things.
 
When Apple releases their flagship for the year it always outperforms every other flagship currently on the market.

I'd expect so. It's using newer hardware. And when the other companies release their newest flagship phones, they'll probably outperform the Apple.

Right now, I think the snapdragon chips are currently the fastest mobile processors on the market, beating the iPhone 5 by a decent margin. When the iPhone 6 comes out, it'll beat the current Snapdragons. Then when Samsung, HTC, and the rest come out with their phones after that, they'll beat the iPhone 6.

They leapfrog each other. It's like comparing AMD to Nvidia in the GPU market. Every other year they jump ahead of each other in performance.

Question is, why do you think Apple doing this is proof of some profound thing, but everyone else doing the same is...

All this is irrelevant, the point is specs don't matter because Apple, the "outdated" phone that "just gets minor updates" wipes the floor with other phones with each refresh.

Right, because it'll be using newer hardware. Apple's building off the same basic ARM chip design as everyone else. They add their own tweaks and touches to the mix, but the differences these make aren't so profound that it jumps them an entire generation ahead of everyone else.

No I don't think the iPad is perfect. I also don't think that Android tablets have a leg up on the iPad solely because of their specs. That's just a pissing contest. Real world data (the tangible stuff) shows that the iPad is just fine with its outdated specs.

Right. I'm not saying the iPad is bad in any way. It's perfect for what we're currently doing on it. So was the iPad 1 when it first came out.

Again, the iPad4 is just fine. Any "benefit" you see by adding a gig of extra RAM is going to be negligible because the iPad4 is a beast. It's not going to suddenly become "Double-Beast!!!!" because they added an unnecessary gig of RAM just to keep up with the Joneses'

Your argument is kinda spinning it's wheels and not going anywhere, then contradicting yourself. What you're saying is the 4 doesn't need any more than what it got because it's fine the way it is. I'm sure you thought the iPad 2 was perfectly fine when it came out, too. So why'd they add an extra 512MB ram to it with the 3? For Retina? So now that retina is out, is the iPad only now just fine? So why'd they make the 4 with a faster processor? If the iPad 5 comes out with 2GB ram, what are you gonna say then? That's it's offering up a perfectly fine user experience as it is, and the 6 doesn't need an extra 2GB of ram on top of that to keep up with the 4GB Android tablets, because it's already the fastest tablet out, and adding that extra bit won't make it fastest times 2?

What you're basically telling me is that specs don't matter...until they do.
 
Great spec's at a great price but that bezel is so big it looks like an old antiquated device. They seem to have done a good job, can't help but wonder why they did this, technology should allow them to make a beautiful bezel, maybe it was a cost issue. :confused:
 
Great spec's at a great price but that bezel is so big it looks like an old antiquated device. They seem to have done a good job, can't help but wonder why they did this, technology should allow them to make a beautiful bezel, maybe it was a cost issue. :confused:

Maybe Apple patented the smart bezel thing on the iPad mini?
 
competition is great.
but is it only me who is really not excited about all those products :confused:
 
Your argument is kinda spinning it's wheels and not going anywhere, then contradicting yourself. What you're saying is the 4 doesn't need any more than what it got because it's fine the way it is. I'm sure you thought the iPad 2 was perfectly fine when it came out, too. So why'd they add an extra 512MB ram to it with the 3? For Retina? So now that retina is out, is the iPad only now just fine? So why'd they make the 4 with a faster processor? If the iPad 5 comes out with 2GB ram, what are you gonna say then? That's it's offering up a perfectly fine user experience as it is, and the 6 doesn't need an extra 2GB of ram on top of that to keep up with the 4GB Android tablets, because it's already the fastest tablet out, and adding that extra bit won't make it fastest times 2?

512MB was fine for the iPad 2, it was significant compared to 256MB for the iPad 1. iPad 3/4 introduced Retina, it needed more RAM to power the the display so it went to 1GB. If Apple has a reason that needs the iPad 5 to have 2GB of RAM it will have 2GB of RAM.

I think really the only one they didn't get right was iPad 1 with 256MB. I guess they weren't sure exactly if it was going to be successful.

Basically Apple adds RAM when it needs too, 2GB of RAM for iPad 4 currently wouldn't really boost anything. Apps/games haven't even taken full advantage of 1GB yet.
 
chromecast is a crappy product if all it can do is "open a link that gets sent from your phone" that means it'll never be able to offer a seamless experience like airplay.

i still wonder why apple never took more advantage of airplay. instead of mirroring, allow yourself to control your screen with your phone while streaming video. maybe throw a game on your tv while controlling it with your phone. there are plenty of things airplay can do but they never done it.

as it stands, if you have an appletv, there's no reason to switch. even pc and android have airplay programs
 
Your argument is kinda spinning it's wheels and not going anywhere, then contradicting yourself. What you're saying is the 4 doesn't need any more than what it got because it's fine the way it is. I'm sure you thought the iPad 2 was perfectly fine when it came out, too. So why'd they add an extra 512MB ram to it with the 3? For Retina? So now that retina is out, is the iPad only now just fine? So why'd they make the 4 with a faster processor? If the iPad 5 comes out with 2GB ram, what are you gonna say then? That's it's offering up a perfectly fine user experience as it is, and the 6 doesn't need an extra 2GB of ram on top of that to keep up with the 4GB Android tablets, because it's already the fastest tablet out, and adding that extra bit won't make it fastest times 2?

What you're basically telling me is that specs don't matter...until they do.

you don't really get apple. Apple has never been about the best specs, they've always been about the best experience. The reason why apple has always been stingy on RAM is because more RAM actually takes a hit on battery life. You got to wonder, why shouldn't Apple balance battery life with performance, when their 512mb ram devices don't lag as much as a comparable android device with double the ram?

On the CPU front, Apple's had the same strategy, their CPU clock speed and architecture isn't going to blow anybody out of the water, but why would they? My phone never lags, why would more speed matter? Apple instead focused on increasing the power of the graphic chips because they know app developers can push that. That's why Apple graphics have always been near the cream of the crop.
 
1920x2000 pixels, 323PPI... that puts Apple in pressure for iPad Mini 2. iPad Mini 2 better gets retina display. Current display is not terrible, but near terrible.

Also, iPad Mini needs get better processor and larger memory. The new Nexus 7 gets quad core, 2GB and NFC...

$35 Chormecast is irreverent to me, because it is not available in Canada just yet.
NFC? Are you kidding me. Why don't you list (on one hand) how many times you have actually used NFC.
 
You guys are all missing the part where the content doesn't at any point stream directly from your tablet or phone to this dongle. It's ALL streaming from the web.

You seriously can't stream local media from a source like an iPad or Macbook (alternatively for the difficult cases: or a Tablet or PC :D )? Are you sure?!
 
Chromecast is what I've wanted for years.

1 simple cheap HDMI plugin that allows any platform to stream to your TV's.

As more apps upgrade to support this it will change the living room as we know it today on any platform.
I wish that Apple TV would be able to do the same thing even it were limited to iOS and Mac OS X devices. I'll probably get one when it's available over here.
 
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