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Sure it's fun. It's also laughable seeing people boast about octacore processors in a mobile phone. Pissing contest.

No phone has an octa core :p dual quad with one set being slower and on standby, maybe :D

Damn press ;)
 
I wish that Apple TV would be able to do the same thing even it were limited to iOS and Mac OS X devices. I'll probably get one when it's available over here.

what are you guys talking about? What does this dongle do that an appletv can't do for iOS and Mac OSX?
 
Wow! That's an impressive amount of hardware; and it's cheaper than almost all of the high end phones. Of course the camera isn't much to write home about, but it's a tablet.
 
No iPad Mini Retina, No Buy

Its getting close to making decisions on what to purchase for Christmas for my daughter, she's already got an iPad 3 and iTouch 5, so, and given the form factor, one had hoped that Apple may launch a upgraded version of the iPad Mini, specifically a much better screen - I deliberately did not purchase first two incarnations of the iPad as the screen just did not impress me, and this remains the case with the iPad Mini.

If Apple are unable to launch a Mini in time for Xmas, then whilst I'm still a Apple only household, it would seem a good time to take a plunge into the World of Android - not too much of an issue as I'm none too fussed on iOS, preferring my desktop.

So Apple, money is there, but no Mini Retina, means no sale and a win for Google - what are you waiting for!!!!!!!!
 
Chromecast doesn't seem to offer any AirPort Express functionality whereas I can make any of my "non-wireless" audio systems into a fully fledged AirPlay capable system as I can with a AirPort Express.

How well the performance of the Chromecast is compared to a Apple TV and how nice their menu layout and everything is we have to wait and see, if it anywhere remotely close to Google's YouTube TV solution that they have going on it doesn't really feature any GUI that Apple should well afraid of.
 
I'd expect so. It's using newer hardware. And when the other companies release their newest flagship phones, they'll probably outperform the Apple.

Right now, I think the snapdragon chips are currently the fastest mobile processors on the market, beating the iPhone 5 by a decent margin. When the iPhone 6 comes out, it'll beat the current Snapdragons. Then when Samsung, HTC, and the rest come out with their phones after that, they'll beat the iPhone 6.

They leapfrog each other. It's like comparing AMD to Nvidia in the GPU market. Every other year they jump ahead of each other in performance.

Question is, why do you think Apple doing this is proof of some profound thing, but everyone else doing the same is...



Right, because it'll be using newer hardware. Apple's building off the same basic ARM chip design as everyone else. They add their own tweaks and touches to the mix, but the differences these make aren't so profound that it jumps them an entire generation ahead of everyone else.



Right. I'm not saying the iPad is bad in any way. It's perfect for what we're currently doing on it. So was the iPad 1 when it first came out.



Your argument is kinda spinning it's wheels and not going anywhere, then contradicting yourself. What you're saying is the 4 doesn't need any more than what it got because it's fine the way it is. I'm sure you thought the iPad 2 was perfectly fine when it came out, too. So why'd they add an extra 512MB ram to it with the 3? For Retina? So now that retina is out, is the iPad only now just fine? So why'd they make the 4 with a faster processor? If the iPad 5 comes out with 2GB ram, what are you gonna say then? That's it's offering up a perfectly fine user experience as it is, and the 6 doesn't need an extra 2GB of ram on top of that to keep up with the 4GB Android tablets, because it's already the fastest tablet out, and adding that extra bit won't make it fastest times 2?

What you're basically telling me is that specs don't matter...until they do.

Brute force solutions to problems work, sort of.

If the tools aren't available for a more elegant approach, and if the market prefers a checklist of comparative features and specs, or merely lowest cost, then by all means go with your strength. That pretty much defines the Android market.

Apple doesn't fit in that paradigm as they control most of the stack of software and hardware and more so in the future, the SOC. Apple gains much more synergy in its designs than any of the Android OEM's and that is why there has been a single, premium design for the iPhone each year.

Your welcome to tout your specs, but you seem ill prepared to define exactly what the benefits, tradeoffs and compromises are, something that Apple and the OEM's are all forced to do. As an example, more RAM increases power consumption and cost, with penalties that might include a larger battery increasing weight, volume and cost yet again. That pretty much defines how the "phat" phones came about, but also may account for the lack of profitability of most of the Android OEM's sans Samsung, which has a very deep hardware stack to work with.

I dont' know what Apple's iPhone 5S hardware plans are, but based on past performance, it will be a balanced solution that doesn't appeal to everyone.
 
Beat Apple to market with the Airplay Direct concept.
This should have been launched by Apple 3 years ago with the Airplay direct rumors surfaced.

As I recall, the idea of "AirPlay direct" was to allow iOS devices to connect to AirPlay receivers without the need for a router. That is completely different concept from this. Chromecast is basically the Nexus Q without an expensive built-in receiver or limited device compatibility.
 
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what are you guys talking about? What does this dongle do that an appletv can't do for iOS and Mac OSX?
Off the top of my head, sharing and controlling the Apple TV among several devices, syncing Apple TV and another device, playback on the Apple TV eve after the other device is locked/sleep mode, being able to control the volume, etc...
 
Anyone who complains about the bezel clearly has rather superficial reasons for wanting a tablet in the first place; I think it looks fine, and for those who can get over its supposed lack of aesthetic value, I'm sure it'll work great too.

Beyond that, the bezel only looks larger because the status bar and softkey bars of stock Android are black.

Also, have you seen the bezels on the iPad and iPad mini?

Personally, I hope bezels never truly go away; a tablet that is all-screen would be a pain in the ass to hold and use properly.

Yeesh.
 
Off the top of my head, sharing and controlling the Apple TV among several devices, syncing Apple TV and another device, playback on the Apple TV eve after the other device is locked/sleep mode, being able to control the volume, etc...

Strange, I can AirPlay on my iPad while it's locked, I can also control the volume on my iPad.

Far as I gathered the ChromeCast cannot even play things from the tablet/my SMB disks. Seems to be quite useless tbh.
 
Anyone who complains about the bezel clearly has rather superficial reasons for wanting a tablet in the first place; I think it looks fine, and for those who can get over its supposed lack of aesthetic value, I'm sure it'll work great too.

Beyond that, the bezel only looks larger because the status bar and softkey bars of stock Android are black.

Also, have you seen the bezels on the iPad and iPad mini?

Personally, I hope bezels never truly go away; a tablet that is all-screen would be a pain in the ass to hold and use properly.

Yeesh.
Actually the bezel on the Mini is pretty small, and rumors suggest that both next generation iPads will have even less bezel area. This shouldn't really present any usability issues, as newer hardware and software have made it considerably easier to distinguish intentional from unintentional input.
 
Strange, I can AirPlay on my iPad while it's locked, I can also control the volume on my iPad.

Far as I gathered the ChromeCast cannot even play things from the tablet/my SMB disks. Seems to be quite useless tbh.
The iPhones we have must be defective I guess because YouTube videos stop playing on my ATV as soon as my iPhone auto-locks.
 
Actually the bezel on the Mini is pretty small, and rumors suggest that both next generation iPads will have even less bezel area. This shouldn't really present any usability issues, as newer hardware and software have made it considerably easier to distinguish intentional from unintentional input.

Well they better make leaps with that coding then. My Mini is often a PITA to use because of the thin bezel. There's no damn place to hold it without my fat thumbs or fingers tripping up the screen! I absolutely hate that about it, but admittedly love everything else about it.

SAVE THE BEZELS CAMPAIGN!!!!
 
The iPhones we have must be defective I guess because YouTube videos stop playing on my ATV as soon as my iPhone auto-locks.

I could test youtube sometime later I guess, I don't really use youtube much. If it does stop it's more to do with the app you are using not having support for playback while locked than the AirPlay not working while locked.
 
Actually the bezel on the Mini is pretty small, and rumors suggest that both next generation iPads will have even less bezel area. This shouldn't really present any usability issues, as newer hardware and software have made it considerably easier to distinguish intentional from unintentional input.

Yes, I understand that, but I still wouldn't want to be touching the screen unintentionally all the time.

The bezel on the Nexus 7 only seems slightly larger than the Mini's because of the difference in form factor (4:3 vs. 16:9). Google has shrunken the bezel on the sides of the screen as Apple did with the iPad Mini vs. the iPad but the top and bottom bezels stay largely the same. Not that they're very big anyways. People are misinterpreting the black statusbar and softkey bars as part of the bezel; they're not. I do wish Google would hurry up and change the way the statusbar and softkey bars look at least when on a homescreen, if only to remove the illusion of a smaller screen/larger bezel.
 
Well they better make leaps with that coding then. My Mini is often a PITA to use because of the thin bezel. There's no damn place to hold it without my fat thumbs or fingers tripping up the screen! I absolutely hate that about it, but admittedly love everything else about it.

SAVE THE BEZELS CAMPAIGN!!!!

The current Mini still uses the old style touchscreens. Rumors suggest that the next generation will switch to an in-cell style touchscreen, like the iPhone 5. These touchscreens are not only thinner, but, from what I understand, also have better "resolution". Being potentially able to distinguish the tip of your finger from its side.
 
I have to say I find it odd how many Google lovers who claim to be former Apple fans frequent this site for updates on which Google devices they should buy.

It is Macrumors, whatever mobile platform you like mac fans can still come here no?
 
It is Macrumors, whatever mobile platform you like mac fans can still come here no?
i think he's trying to say that it's amazing how so many users on this website claim to be ex-apple fans converting to android and yet the general trend still shows a 95% retention.
 
you don't really get apple. Apple has never been about the best specs, they've always been about the best experience. The reason why apple has always been stingy on RAM is because more RAM actually takes a hit on battery life. You got to wonder, why shouldn't Apple balance battery life with performance, when their 512mb ram devices don't lag as much as a comparable android device with double the ram?

On the CPU front, Apple's had the same strategy, their CPU clock speed and architecture isn't going to blow anybody out of the water, but why would they? My phone never lags, why would more speed matter? Apple instead focused on increasing the power of the graphic chips because they know app developers can push that. That's why Apple graphics have always been near the cream of the crop.

Yeah I agree with this 100%, Apple always meets the performance necessary for a satisfactory experience. Chasing specifications is a real misconception. Remember when everyone was pushing GHZ processor speeds, now look as no one cares much since cores and throughput beat CPU speeds.

I picked up a friends S4 to take a photo for them and I was shocked at the lag shooting a picture :confused: I'm not sure if it was using one of the photo apps which are very popular here in Asia or if it was the native photo program. If this was the native program I would be shocked to think S4 owners would tolerate this without serious complaining.

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Anyone who complains about the bezel clearly has rather superficial reasons for wanting a tablet in the first place; I think it looks fine, and for those who can get over its supposed lack of aesthetic value, I'm sure it'll work great too.

Beyond that, the bezel only looks larger because the status bar and softkey bars of stock Android are black.

Also, have you seen the bezels on the iPad and iPad mini?

Personally, I hope bezels never truly go away; a tablet that is all-screen would be a pain in the ass to hold and use properly.

Yeesh.

I'll be sure to keep this in mind next time I look for a phone, car, purse, watch or wife, looks don't matter, its whats inside that counts.

Looks don't matter, its whats inside that counts.
Looks don't matter, its whats inside that counts.
Looks don't matter, its whats inside that counts.

Its not working........:p
 
The problem is not detecting or not the input, it is hiding the screen and the ergonomycs
The "obscuring problem" is no different from holding a printed photo. Really not that big a deal for most people. And for those that do have a problem with it, I have no doubt that there will be a bunch of cases that'll add the bezel back.
 
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