zelet said:
Yes, not to mention the fact that it's mainly a bad gaming console sold by Microsoft...I will pass, thanks...
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Google to Supply Video for Apple iTV?
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Yes, not to mention the fact that it's mainly a bad gaming console sold by Microsoft...I will pass, thanks...
darwen said:
I actually find a lot of good, free, full-length content on Google Video. A lot of times this is what I do instead of going down to the video store to get a movie - I watch something educational from Google Video. I would love to see this integrated into iTV!
Not having a DVD reminds me of when people got digital cameras and wanted to be able to print the pics. For many years, people couldn't accept the fact the photo was not complete until they printed it. Seeing it on the monitor wasn't enough.
Storage is getting cheaper to have your entire collection of DVDs in the palm of your hand. 3.5 inch drive anways.
Storage is getting cheaper to have your entire collection of DVDs in the palm of your hand. 3.5 inch drive anways.
I just hope they allow iTunes purchases via the iWeb - scrolling through the movie library from your couch and being able to buy (even more, rent) movies would be fantastic
MikeDTyke said:The Quality of content ALWAYS matters. Which is why SJ should be beating those studios into submission and move on from this Disney rubbish. With the minor exception of POTC and every Pixar prior to cars, Disney tends to be utter sh*te.
M.
Well, consider that children tend to watch movies until they wear out (on VHS), and Disney movies tend to be the usual fodder...I think that this content is perfect to test out a store. These are the kinds of movies that families tend to buy rather than rent. Many movies out there people will see once, and then forget about, but these kinds of movies are classics, and kids will watch them until their parents go insane.
The iTV is in essence a cheap Mini with no DVD nor a usable hard disk, with a Mini and the streaming iTunes on the other computers in the network i can do exactly thesame except for the better wireless capability's.
Even though all the internet video isn't exactly the 'best' quality, I can't see apple releasing a HDTV enabled device that can only play 'poor' quality video though.
I'm sure we'll have access to some nice quality video somewhere.
Just my 2c.
I'm sure we'll have access to some nice quality video somewhere.
Just my 2c.
darwen said:
Quality? Rarely. But there is a lot of entertaining and hilarious content on youtube.
So this must be the first big move by the Google exec on the Apple board. Interesting, but if it's not as easy as sitting at the computer to find and run videos, I doubt I'll ever use it.
BRLawyer said:Yes, not to mention the fact that it's mainly a bad gaming console sold by Microsoft...I will pass, thanks...
I guess that's relative and subject to opinion of course, but I buy just about every gaming console that comes out, and each one has quality titles. Of course, each one has crap titles too, but it's always interesting to see a newcomer in the market do well.
Initially, everyone spoke to MS's inevitable failure in the console gaming market, but they've managed to do quite well, producing some quality 1st party games, while some notable 3rd parties have embraced the xbox and the 360 with their own brand of great content.
Since I've had my 360, it's seen more play than any of my other consoles (of course, right now I'm playing Okami on the PS2, but before that I was deep into Saints Row and Dead Rising for the 360.)
So far this year, Elder Scrolls IV: Oblivion, a 360 and PC title, is still the best game I've played on any other system--game of the year material for sure.
iTV doesn't have a dvd drive. It is a DVD player because the computer it is connected with has a DVD player. Building in a DVD drive would be redundant and a cost they could easily eliminate.
edit: ooh and if it can stream HD content, how about playing the latest mac game (Unreal tournament or something) on my HD TV (depending on latency).
edit: ooh and if it can stream HD content, how about playing the latest mac game (Unreal tournament or something) on my HD TV (depending on latency).
arn said:
Was this announced?
It might be impractical to stream video directly, but I think streaming the mpeg 2 data off a DVD should work. You'd need a very consistent 10 Mbps. That's too fast for wireless, in many environments, but should be fine for a wired connection. I suppose a powerful Mac could transcode the mpeg2 to something smaller, on the fly, but I doubt that's the approach Apple would take.
The iTV would just need to decode the data stream... Anyway, I personally hope this is part of iTV. That way, iTV could be the only box next to my television, and all of my content could come through iTV's front row...
On the other hand, why would Apple go through all that trouble to support a DVD I rented from netflix when they want me to but movies from them?
nostaws said:
I think latency would kill that--I'd guess that HD that isn't encoded is too high-bandwidth to be streamed. So, something would have to encode the video, then stream it to the iTV, and the iTV would have to decode it and send it to your TV. There'd be way too much latency to play anything realtime.
You'd be better off with a direct connection from your Mac to your TV. You'd need the right connectors, though...
The key to ITV's success is the quality of the streaming. If we get exactly what Steve demo at the Special Event, then it will be killer.
I hope the technology improved since Airtunes and AirPort Express. I used and I returned it to Apple because I could not have the thing work properly without hiccups all the time while streaming audio. and my stereo was only 40 feet away from my computer and I don't have brick walls.
If ITV solve this issue and work flawlessly with video at HDTV resolution, this product will be amazing and Apple will make a load of cash.
I hope the technology improved since Airtunes and AirPort Express. I used and I returned it to Apple because I could not have the thing work properly without hiccups all the time while streaming audio. and my stereo was only 40 feet away from my computer and I don't have brick walls.
If ITV solve this issue and work flawlessly with video at HDTV resolution, this product will be amazing and Apple will make a load of cash.
I wonder how they are trying to sell iTV to countries without iTunes store and to countries with iTunes store but without video content for sale.
It would be great if I could stream my divx-files from my computer to my TV using iTV, but they are not going to allow that.
It would be great if I could stream my divx-files from my computer to my TV using iTV, but they are not going to allow that.
If Google gets the quality up, then this could easily be a hit!
Apple is using quite clever tactics here, it's not taking the easy option of going with You Tube, it's thinking further ahead. They'll need Google search, and would love Google Video search on their iPhone's too. Anyway Google video can only get better, and Apple would prefer to be friends with Google than enemies.
Apple is using quite clever tactics here, it's not taking the easy option of going with You Tube, it's thinking further ahead. They'll need Google search, and would love Google Video search on their iPhone's too. Anyway Google video can only get better, and Apple would prefer to be friends with Google than enemies.
We've got two innovative companies here. I think the possibilities are fairly open. I'm anxious to see what's going to happen, especially after I get an iTv.
There's a reason there's no DVD player, this is assumed to go in a den where many people have at least 1 dvd player already. This adds to the theater experience, it is not a replacement for all of your other players.
if its user submitted videos they want, they should talk to youtube. google video sucks.
youtube has way more of a selection of user submitted videos than that of google video. i myself would have taken a youtube route and added the google video to the lineup would have been better than just doing google video alone. youtube was made for that type of stuff. many people dont think about google having video's and only use it as a search engine. and the same people go to youtube to see video's. there are some bad quality videos on google video also and the same said for youtube but youtube has way more of a selection of videos that google has but having both would be the better choice
youtube has way more of a selection of user submitted videos than that of google video. i myself would have taken a youtube route and added the google video to the lineup would have been better than just doing google video alone. youtube was made for that type of stuff. many people dont think about google having video's and only use it as a search engine. and the same people go to youtube to see video's. there are some bad quality videos on google video also and the same said for youtube but youtube has way more of a selection of videos that google has but having both would be the better choice
The big question will be whether Apple's iTV will work with any files on your computer (your own home movies, internet downloads from anyhere, or rips of your own DVDs) or will they only work with files purchased at the iTunes Music and Video Store?
fawlty said:
I'm guessing there will be a Google specific UI native to the iTV that works directly with that system.