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The idea is to sell hardware gadgets. Content that consumers want access to will sell the hardware. Same thing as itunes/ipod over the years.
 
I will be disappointed if the finished iTV doesn't have a built in DVD player.

I don't want yet another box under my TV, combine the two and they are on to a winner.
 
MikeDTyke said:
The Quality of content ALWAYS matters. Which is why SJ should be beating those studios into submission and move on from this Disney rubbish. With the minor exception of POTC and every Pixar prior to cars, Disney tends to be utter sh*te.


M. :p

If quality of content really mattered, MS wouldn't be a monopoly now...I am talking here about a union of two GREAT brands, even if some of the material is crap...

For the average public slightly acquainted with IT, Apple + Google represents the maximum of coolness in media offerings, trust me...it would be like joining Apple and Sony for gadgets and consoles...almost unbeatable.
 
puuukeey said:
Google video,youtube

Why the ass would you pair iTv with content? this is the internet, we don't need people to "supply our content"

If it not going to be supplied where are we going to get it?? I still dont have access to the iTunes store, the iTV WILL be a bust in SA, there has to be some sort of content if the iTV wants to ever do something in the media centre market.
 
its the internet stupid.

darwen said:
Stupid idea. I hate it.

iTV should be a quality product with quality content brought to it. Movie trailers and Movies/TV shows bought on the iTunes music store are far different then that of YouTube and Goggle Video.

I hate these "anyone can upload websites." There is plunty of good content on them but unfortunatly there is just to much crap. I rarely see a quality video on YouTube. If I had an iTV with this "functionality" I would feel like apple was providing me with crap just because they needed some sort of free content that was worth watching on the device. Add a DVR, not a bunch of crap.

YouTube is not compatable with this device. The interface is completely different and anyone who has attempted to upload content to YouTube should understand that the quaity it is compressed to makes it un-viewable. Keep in mind people, Steve specificly said "your new high def TV." Who wants to stream a 100meg video to that? Google videos are a little different but not a lot better. If this does happen, I am happy it is not YouTube.

I see no advantage in this. The only content I would watch over google video on my TV is copy written content that either:
a) I should be downloading off of iTunes legally.
b) Stuff I diddent to record on my DVR.

I hate this idea. It's all about the content? I agree, but quality beats quantity. Dont provide content, provide great content. Add a DVR.

We can't all put out "quality content" like this mr Final Cut Pro!!!

the last two parties I want deciding what i have on my iTv are you and apple. Please overlord of quality, excuse the rest of the world for not spewing forth bloated budget hollywood productions or derivatives there of.
 
Lollypop said:
If it not going to be supplied where are we going to get it?? I still dont have access to the iTunes store, the iTV WILL be a bust in SA, there has to be some sort of content if the iTV wants to ever do something in the media centre market.

the internet (tubes jokes aside) is like a ocean of content. its just endless.
apple can either act like a boat. which is a tool to see the entire ocean
or it can act like beach shower where you get a little tiny trickle water.

Your saying that you want apple to exclude content from iTv? you should be able to stream anything you want from your computer to your tv. just because apple is forcing you to use itunes (which is my beef) doesn't mean you can't drag stuff into it.

Why would you want iTv if your just going to watch plain old fascist tv all over again?
 
XBMC... that is all

If Apple wants to make a killer set top box they need to copy XBMC and then make it a bit easier to use.

My xbox has been my media center for 2 years now and its been amazing. It supports iTunes streaming, it plays every media file known to man, it connects to my file server using samba (windows shares), and it connects to the web to download trailers from Quicktime, it can get videos from YouTube and GoogleVideo.

In short, its an open, non-restricted piece of technology that is only limited to the collective imagination of the entire web.
 
Google to buy Apple

Well, Google and Apple's long-term strategy is becoming clear... They will 'work' together on several projects until Steve steps down (retirement / Disney / health reasons). Then Google will buy Apple and launch an all out attack on Microsoft with desktops, mobile technology, content and web searching!
 
prady16 said:
Well, i still see myself buying a Mac Mini and attaching a TV Tuner to it rather than buying an iTV. The inclusion of a DVD drive just makes it more similar to the mini. I am pretty sure i didn't see a dvd slot on the iTV from the pictures. Here is one from Engadget:

Why would it need a DVD player? Your computer has a DVD player and it is streaming the video from your computer. So in that sense it does have a DVD player, but not built right into it.
 
I don't know so much about streaming from Google. I personally would like to view user created content but not "Top Visits" or something like that. Does google have a favorites or playlist feature like YouTube? If so I would like to see something tie in with that. select the content to be on that list.

I do know that you can download google videos... maybe that is all that means. it can play downloaded google videos.
 
iJaz said:
The iTV is getting more and more interesting!
I thought it would com without a DVD player, but now it seems to be one included. And the more content Apple can secure, the better! :D

It does NOT come with a DVD Drive.

arn
 
craigatkinson said:
Why would it need a DVD player? Your computer has a DVD player and it is streaming the video from your computer. So in that sense it does have a DVD player, but not built right into it.

I don't think you'll be able to stream from your DVD player. At least it doesn't seem so. It's not streaming pure Video. It's streaming data from your iTunes or iPhoto it seems.

arn
 
puuukeey said:
We can't all put out "quality content" like this mr Final Cut Pro!!!

the last two parties I want deciding what i have on my iTv are you and apple. Please overlord of quality, excuse the rest of the world for not spewing forth bloated budget hollywood productions or derivatives there of.

Geez this was a rather angry response. You get pretty upset when someone questions your YouTube huh?
 
arn said:
I don't think you'll be able to stream from your DVD player. At least it doesn't seem so. It's not streaming pure Video. It's streaming data from your iTunes or iPhoto it seems.

arn

Very disappointing!

I hope Apple has some surprises in store for us.
 
zelet said:
If Apple wants to make a killer set top box they need to copy XBMC and then make it a bit easier to use.

My xbox has been my media center for 2 years now and its been amazing. It supports iTunes streaming, it plays every media file known to man, it connects to my file server using samba (windows shares), and it connects to the web to download trailers from Quicktime, it can get videos from YouTube and GoogleVideo.

In short, its an open, non-restricted piece of technology that is only limited to the collective imagination of the entire web.
Yes, but someone like me who doesn't play any video games wouldn't want to by a video game console just so they can watch movies. That doesn't make sense to people in my position.
 
This seems a little odd to me - very low resolution movies (especially for your typical TV), low quality content (IMO!), and probably a lot of copyright infringement. It doesn't exactly sound like the ideal content for a 'boutique' brand like Apple.
 
well, i would say great!

but i know google is kinda weak in this area.... perhaps they are launching more video sites. dunno.

Google in the video area isnt Yahoo, nor are they Youtube.

Google kinda needs to get their stuff organized, yes they are a great search engine, have gmail, earth and a lil more. but videos? they could do better.

but hey, at least google is supporting mac. yahoo sucks. their music videos are NOT mac compatible.
 
Well i hope they come out with a couple of editions of this iTV. One (iTV mini i guess) which is as shown, just a streaming device with remote.

The other a STB replacement which can work independant of a PC (true media centre). Would have to have full computer built in so i guess would have a mini built in. So it would be able do all iTV mini could do plus record, browse internet, play DVDs etc.
 
iTV doesn't have a DVD player in it.
It doesn't have a cable TV input.

This product is an end run around both of these "old" technologies.

Apple is expecting (or at least hoping) that those distribution mechanisms will slowly but inevitably be supplanted by an internet distribution model--one which Apple will be at the center of. Music is the tip of the iceburg to Steve. They expect to dominate by putting the whole distribution chain, moving the content from whomever has created to your human senses (ears, eyes, whatever), better, more seamlessly than anyone else. Apple will win where it can deliver content when and how people want it, better than they can get it elsewhere (at a comperable price, of course).

iTV is part of their video distribution mechanism, and they aren't going to "waste" any of its capabilities on supporting the old media distribution models that they can't dominate.

I don't know if Apple will be able to fulfill their vision, but understanding it makes it clear why they aren't going to be making a PVR for cable/broadcast and will minimally support DVDs.
 
enda1 said:
Well i hope they come out with a couple of editions of this iTV. One (iTV mini i guess) which is as shown, just a streaming device with remote.

The other a STB replacement which can work independant of a PC (true media centre). Would have to have full computer built in so i guess would have a mini built in. So it would be able do all iTV mini could do plus record, browse internet, play DVDs etc.

Er... Isn't that what a Mini is?
Order a Mini, an Elgato product, and maybe a connector for your TV and you're done...
 
crees! said:
Yes, but someone like me who doesn't play any video games wouldn't want to by a video game console just so they can watch movies. That doesn't make sense to people in my position.

So an iTV doesn't make any sense in your position either.

Oh, and btw, the Xbox plays DVDs, connects to iTunes shares (including playlists), and it gets internet radio stations. So for $100-$150 you get a DVD player that plays anything you download via torrents and anything streaming on the web.
 
Frisco said:
Very disappointing!

I hope Apple has some surprises in store for us.

Actually I don't surf youtube that much.

But I do get angry, because I really feel that apple attempts to trade user freedom for ease of use. I think thats a false paradigm. you can have both.

I'm all for making technology accessible. but no one ever said you have to limit its capabilities. Especially on issues which at the very least approach taste police and free speech.

if I buy a piece of equipment that can stream hidef, why on earth should I not be able to stream screen savers, itunes visualizers, eyeTV, youtube videos, the web etc...

its just excess government.

ps... essex county.
 
No DVD gig deal. Come on, everybody's have DVD nowadays. Why people are whining so much about it. DVD is becoming a obsolete technology anyway. I bet in 5 years people will not be using it much.
I am interest in doing all the recording using elgato and stream to my TV. I bet Elgato and Apple are working on a DVR interface solution for the Mac using Front Row so if you want to record content you use your Mac instead of using the ITV. That way Apple doesn't have to deal with networks and movie studios complaining about digital rights etc. Apple can pass the blame to Elgato.
I believe the ITV has more functionality that Steve did not address at this time and I think Apple is trying to gather as much info to improve it by it's launch next year.
ITV is a winner IMHO, I think it will be a really cool thing to have. Can't wait for it.
 
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