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I am actually excited about these news, not because I will download the app, but because I think it will make Apple start updating the imessage app with more features =D
 
Hoovering open wifi personal data was a good idea?
They were not aiming at personal informations specifically, they were simply collecting whatever data was transmitted. Since running cars around the whole World is kinda expensive it makes sense to collect as much as you can to avoid the need for multiple trips. Sadly many still leave their WiFi connections unencrypted, which means Google ended up harvesting a lot of personal informations too.

Trying was a good idea, after all it was unencrypted information and the expectation of privacy about them was not clear at all, Google argued the information was being made public and it's not a big stretch of imagination thinking it could be a correct interpretation. Ultimately it was decided Google was wrong so they had to discard these personal informations and pay a fine, but in the end the legit informations collected far outweight these problems.
 
They were not aiming at personal informations specifically, they were simply collecting whatever data was transmitted. Since running cars around the whole World is kinda expensive it makes sense to collect as much as you can to avoid the need for multiple trips. Sadly many still leave their WiFi connections unencrypted, which means Google ended up harvesting a lot of personal informations too.

Trying was a good idea, after all it was unencrypted information and the expectation of privacy about them was not clear at all, Google argued the information was being made public and it's not a big stretch of imagination thinking it could be a correct interpretation. Ultimately it was decided Google was wrong so they had to discard these personal informations and pay a fine, but in the end the legit informations collected far outweight these problems.

No, they didn't need to collect those snippets because they are useless. The only thing that they had to collect is SSID, MAC address and location, nothing more.
 
This would be good for IOS :)

Just what we need, more social video to drain your battery further :p

Now, all these users will complain more about "APple needing longer battery life" because out "Hangouts" die.

How many other social networking stuff will further push us "over-the-edge" ?

All in all, no one will never use their desktop/laptop again..

I guess these is one good thing about all of this, the amount of money mobile carriers get for "over-spening" increased mobile data costs would have just quadrupled, since everyone will do this over LTE.... which means everyone will be using the iPhone 5 for this... I don't think 4+ screens (even if they are previews) in hangouts will be ok over 3G.. Restricted to Wi-fi may solve this, but quite frankly, who's gonna use this on just Wi-Fi...
 
Can you contact everyone at oncce on Facebook-GooglePlus-iMessage-BBM-Hangouts? Hmmm...no?

Can you contact everyone at once using e-mail? Yup

I use some of these services often. They're fairly useful. But until someone addresses that issue none of them will ever come close to being essential.
Yep, totally agree. Apple should open their iMessage and Facetime protocol so it can be integrated in Hangouts/G+. That'd be awesome. Maybe even in Facebook. But that's even more unrealistic. ;)
 
Yep, totally agree. Apple should open their iMessage and Facetime protocol so it can be integrated in Hangouts/G+. That'd be awesome. Maybe even in Facebook. But that's even more unrealistic. ;)

Apple has a much better relationship with Facebook than they do with Google..
 
Changed new Hangouts+ on Mac and iOS devices. but no online/offline icons. Epic fail! I think that FaceBook chat is better than Hangouts. Battery drains when using Hangouts???
 
No, they didn't need to collect those snippets because they are useless. The only thing that they had to collect is SSID, MAC address and location, nothing more.
You can think these snippets are useless only to find out they are actually useful later on, which means you need to re-do your data collection again. It's much smarter to simply collect everything available and sort out the possibilities later on, which was Google's approach.
 
Hmm, my brother once had T-Mobile but he left so I think I'll stay put. A lot people complain about AT&T but I've had no issues with them.

How long ago? All 5 carriers are complete different at this point. Att and verzion will go no contract soon.
 
but then again it's your own fault if your WiFI is unsecured..

Yes, and if someone steals my TV I'm to blame for leaving the door unlocked. :rolleyes:

Apparently Google gets a pass no matter what they do. We will all be sorry for this someday.
 
Yes, and if someone steals my TV I'm to blame for leaving the door unlocked. :rolleyes:

Apparently Google gets a pass no matter what they do. We will all be sorry for this someday.
It's unfortunate that that's the case, but yes. Google shouldn't be stealing info from unsecured networks, and those networks shouldn't have been unsecured in the first place. It's both/and, not either/or.
 
Yes, and if someone steals my TV I'm to blame for leaving the door unlocked. :rolleyes:

Apparently Google gets a pass no matter what they do. We will all be sorry for this someday.

Yeah well go and get your tin foil hat. And as I already said, they have been punished globally for recording the WiFI data. But seriously, your going to sit there and proclaim that having an unprotected WiFi is perfectly fine and damn Google for getting your information? You deserve to be hacked if you think like that.

I would also argue that yes your analogy of an unprotected WiFi is the same as someone leaving their house and leaving the front door wide open in a house burglary hot spot.

No doubt someone will come and accuse me of working for Samsung, or is it Google, or maybe HTC hmm perhaps it's Motorola? Heck I work for ALL of them, I earned $5000,000 last year :D

But I will sit here and await Apple's cross platform apps and features, oh wait....
 
Yeah well go and get your tin foil hat. And as I already said, they have been punished globally for recording the WiFI data. But seriously, your going to sit there and proclaim that having an unprotected WiFi is perfectly fine and damn Google for getting your information? You deserve to be hacked if you think like that.

1) I don't have unprotected wifi.

2) If I did, I shouldn't have to worry about an upstanding corporation with the motto "Do No Evil" driving around my neighborhood in special cars sucking up as much of my personal data as they can get.

Paranoia can be a good thing. Mock all you want, but Google is getting far more power than anyone should be comfortable with.
 
1) I don't have unprotected wifi.

2) If I did, I shouldn't have to worry about an upstanding corporation with the motto "Do No Evil" driving around my neighborhood in special cars sucking up as much of my personal data as they can get.

Paranoia can be a good thing. Mock all you want, but Google is getting far more power than anyone should be comfortable with.

hahaha, dear oh dear, if your worried about that then you should move totally of the grid to a small island as their are FAR FAR FAR FAR more powerful and corrupt organisations in the capitalist world then Google is! Banks for one! Google is the last company I worry about.
 
As long as you have a Google+ account you should be good to go, and if I recall, our Biz Account had it automatically enabled as soon as I setup my G+ Our team (on the same Biz Account) was already a group that could be selected during a Hangout.

Following up on my own post :) So the new Google Apps/G+ UI got pushed out and all of our Hangouts stopped working, i.e., click the new green quote icon and "no longer available until activated by an Administrator".

To enable, even if G+ is already up and running, look under the Apps Admin >> Settings >> Talk, you'll see the toggle between Enable/Disable for organization, ours was disabled after the update.

Semi-obvious, though I didn't think to look under talk at first, thought I could save someone a few minutes :cool:
 
Just get Trillian and you can connect to Google Talk without Google pushing that Google+ garbage down your throats.

Yes, and if someone steals my TV I'm to blame for leaving the door unlocked. :rolleyes:

Apparently Google gets a pass no matter what they do. We will all be sorry for this someday.

Welcome to the new tech community; Google doesn't need a PR division because they have all the tech blogs spinning everything for them, for free.

To them, Google is the greatest thing since sliced bread despite not doing anything revolutionary (unless you count borderline stalking of every Internet user on the planet) in, like, ten years.
 
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